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The Climate Cult is more than willing to change whatever it must to keep its confidence scam alive. That’s what they mean when they say climate change. They don’t mean temperature; they mean the Climate data and the Climate narrative. They’ll change anything but the solution and do whatever is required to keep the wealth redistribution/tyranny accelerator laundromat open.When research peeks over the consensus wall to challenge approved dogma, the Pharisees are quick to discredit it—shills for oil, anti-science, climate deniers. Destroying careers is well within the realm of acceptable behavior as is blocking credential research or pressing experts to alter results. But what if the research comes from an official government agency?If you control the agency, then its job has been to reinforce the confidence scam. They issue grants that produce the results needed and then base official policy on their rigged research. But not everyone appears to be in on the scam. Norway, not exactly a conservative bastion of political or cultural practice, uses the National Statistical Institute of Norway to generate official statistics. Things upon which the country relies to inform politicians and people. It published a paper titled “To what extent are temperature levels changing due to greenhouse gas emissions?”I’m sure they went in thinking, well, we’ve got data and records, and everyone’s been on about CO2 and temperature change. Let’s crunch this stuff and then impress everyone with the evidence. The conclusion at which they arrived contradicts the Climate Cult’s approved narrative. Those temperature models used to justify CO2 reduction policy don’t actually justify it

In this paper we have reviewed data on climate and temperatures in the past and ascertained that there have been large (non-stationary) temperature fluctuations resulting from natural causes.Subsequently, we have summarized recent work on statistical analyses on the ability of the [Global Climate Models] GCMs to track historical temperature data. These studies have demonstrated that the time series of the difference between the global temperature and the corresponding hindcast from the GCMs is non-stationary. Thus, these studies raise serious doubts about whether the GCMs are able to distinguish natural variations in temperatures from variations caused by man-made emissions of CO2.…[T]he results imply that the effect of man-made CO2 emissions does not appear to be sufficiently strong to cause systematic changes in the pattern of the temperature fluctuations.

Remember, this is the government of Norway. 

• All four previous interglacial periods are seen to be warmer than the present.”
• warmer temperatures were the norm in the earlier part of the past 4,000 years, including century-long intervals nearly 1°C warmer than the decade (2001-2010).”
• The results imply that the effect of man-made CO2 emissions does not appear to be sufficiently strong to cause systematic changes in the pattern of the temperature fluctuations.

 

Norway just wrecked the consensus. It has warmed more without man, and while man contributes to CO2 in the atmosphere, “it seems impossible to determine how much of the temperature increase is due to emissions of CO2.” Your models are crap and so is your conclusion.Are they taking this news seriously? Norway was already ramping up Oil and Gas production. I’d go with yes.As for everyone else, they’ll ignore it, but this isn’t the only “paper” to reach the surface gasping for air, to challenge the approved orthodoxy. There is a sense of movement that could lift us out of the elite-imposed dark ages of climate science and propel us into a fossil-fueled renaissance.That’s a stretch, but in any of the many fronts in the war against global Leftism, you have to get your optimism where you can.

https://granitegrok.com/blog/2023/10/no ... ure-change 
 

Co2 drives plant growth which reduces co2. Is a natural balance. Too much co2? Plants thrive to consume it, thereby reducing co2. The hubris of man is folly.

Majik » 26 Oct 2023, 7:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 7:45 am

Norway just wrecked the consensus. It has warmed more without man, and while man contributes to CO2 in the atmosphere, “it seems impossible to determine how much of the temperature increase is due to emissions of CO2.” Your models are crap and so is your conclusion.Are they taking this news seriously? Norway was already ramping up Oil and Gas production. I’d go with yes.As for everyone else, they’ll ignore it, but this isn’t the only “paper” to reach the surface gasping for air, to challenge the approved orthodoxy. There is a sense of movement that could lift us out of the elite-imposed dark ages of climate science and propel us into a fossil-fueled renaissance.That’s a stretch, but in any of the many fronts in the war against global Leftism, you have to get your optimism where you can.

https://granitegrok.com/blog/2023/10/no ... ure-change

The idiots in charge of promoting the climate change folks intentionally refuse to acknowledge that the .04% makes up of CO2 is such a minute fraction of our atmosphere while counting on the ignorance of the populace to understand that CO2 is of vital importance to life on this planet, and ANY slight increase in that meager percentage of 4 tenths of 1% does nothing more that stimulate plant life on earth, which is fundamental to our existence. 

Those morons who happily swallow such a hoax are nothing but brainless dunsels. 
 

People believe there is no conclusive evidence now is eternity, either, yet chromosome results still remain eternally separated as occupying time now.

Majik » 26 Oct 2023, 7:44 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 7:44 am

The Climate Cult is more than willing to change whatever it must to keep its confidence scam alive. That’s what they mean when they say climate change. They don’t mean temperature; they mean the Climate data and the Climate narrative. They’ll change anything but the solution and do whatever is required to keep the wealth redistribution/tyranny accelerator laundromat open.When research peeks over the consensus wall to challenge approved dogma, the Pharisees are quick to discredit it—shills for oil, anti-science, climate deniers. Destroying careers is well within the realm of acceptable behavior as is blocking credential research or pressing experts to alter results. But what if the research comes from an official government agency?If you control the agency, then its job has been to reinforce the confidence scam. They issue grants that produce the results needed and then base official policy on their rigged research. But not everyone appears to be in on the scam. Norway, not exactly a conservative bastion of political or cultural practice, uses the National Statistical Institute of Norway to generate official statistics. Things upon which the country relies to inform politicians and people. It published a paper titled “To what extent are temperature levels changing due to greenhouse gas emissions?”I’m sure they went in thinking, well, we’ve got data and records, and everyone’s been on about CO2 and temperature change. Let’s crunch this stuff and then impress everyone with the evidence. The conclusion at which they arrived contradicts the Climate Cult’s approved narrative. Those temperature models used to justify CO2 reduction policy don’t actually justify it

Remember, this is the government of Norway. 

• All four previous interglacial periods are seen to be warmer than the present.”
• warmer temperatures were the norm in the earlier part of the past 4,000 years, including century-long intervals nearly 1°C warmer than the decade (2001-2010).”
• The results imply that the effect of man-made CO2 emissions does not appear to be sufficiently strong to cause systematic changes in the pattern of the temperature fluctuations.

  If I remember correctly CO2 was about warming problems however it is the winter temperatures (happens every year when the sun moves to the south) that is going to kill large numbers of people who do not have heating fuel, not the summer temperatures.  Strange how non voluntarily classed and grouped neo feudal peasants subsidize the favored corporation groups while also paying the highest inflation monopoly prices then take the blame for a said-claimed warming problem that would help them to survive.

Bob » 26 Oct 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 8:28 am

  If I remember correctly CO2 was about warming problems however it is the winter temperatures (happens every year when the sun moves to the south) that is going to kill large numbers of people who do not have heating fuel, not the summer temperatures.  Strange how non voluntarily classed and grouped neo feudal peasants subsidize the favored corporation groups while also paying the highest inflation monopoly prices then take the blame for a said-claimed warming problem that would help them to survive.

Winter happens in southern hemisphere while the northern has summer at the same time.
East is dawn and west is dusk, guess why the two planes never meet at the electromagnetic poles on the rotating axis of this planet staying tilted 3rd from the star all the time.

there is a universal perpetual balancing taking place in plain sight and personally experiencing adapting to the moment here. You intellectually reject it for humanity's sake of faking tomorrows each rotation of the planet using flowchart statistical averages factualizing the corruption going forward in every franchised reality defending now isn't eternity academically, artistically, economically, politically, spiritually, socially, ancestrally.

this is why I created those origami figures in my avatar.

Zeets2 » 26 Oct 2023, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 8:14 am

The idiots in charge of promoting the climate change folks intentionally refuse to acknowledge that the .04% makes up of CO2 is such a minute fraction of our atmosphere while counting on the ignorance of the populace to understand that CO2 is of vital importance to life on this planet, and ANY slight increase in that meager percentage of 4 tenths of 1% does nothing more that stimulate plant life on earth, which is fundamental to our existence. 

Those morons who happily swallow such a hoax are nothing but brainless dunsels.

Most western politicians and governments have swallowed this hoax to such an extent that it puts western civilization in grave  jeapardy. ....

 

Majik » 26 Oct 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 9:10 am

Most western politicians and governments have swallowed this hoax to such an extent that it puts western civilization in grave  jeapardy. ....

 

Humanity always puts ancestries in jeopardy every ancestor trained to reject why they are eternally separated in plain sight now.

It is done academically, artistically, economically, politically, spiritually, socially, ancestrally from within the population corrupting ancestries constantly with a promise of better tomorrows when chromosome results are only evolving as displaced now.

Nostradamus'omh » 26 Oct 2023, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 8:53 am

Winter happens in southern hemisphere while the northern has summer at the same time.
East is dawn and west is dusk, guess why the two planes never meet at the electromagnetic poles on the rotating axis of this planet staying tilted 3rd from the star all the time.

there is a universal perpetual balancing taking place in plain sight and personally experiencing adapting to the moment here. You intellectually reject it for humanity's sake of faking tomorrows each rotation of the planet using flowchart statistical averages factualizing the corruption going forward in every franchised reality defending now isn't eternity academically, artistically, economically, politically, spiritually, socially, ancestrally.

this is why I created those origami figures in my avatar.

   Today is not eternity and you best try to get prepared for the cold temperature reality that will happening in the next weeks and months. Hats, gloves, boots and the usual small bag of socialist refugee papers and effects, etc.

Bob » 26 Oct 2023, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 9:15 am

   Today is not eternity and you best try to get prepared for the cold temperature reality that will happening in the next weeks and months. Hats, gloves, boots and the usual small bag of socialist refugee papers and effects, etc.

Today is a figure of speech describing the current rotation of the planet every degree of rotation nothing stays same details again evolving as spontaneously occupying time simultaneously here never same form shaped since arrival.

Inception to extinction is populating space conceived to decomposition numbers here now. those numbers come as 16 originals, 8 second generation, 4 3rd generation, 2 4th generation 5th generated lifetimes replace all previous generation gaps so far.

simple compounding chromosomes. the 5 listed account for 93.75% combined previous generations into 100% unique replacement that only becomes 50% their children, 25% grandchildren, 12/5% great grandchildren, 6.25% great grandchildren.

So I described 9 generation gaps in sequence of an ever changing population regardless plant or animal, predator or prey, asexual, male, female ways to add a next generation, and finally the reproductions that did or didn't become 1 of 2 parents living in series parallel time occupying space directly here now.

Recite all academic training, all artistic suggestions, spiritual beliefs, political leanings, social consensus, generation gaps that evolved to this point of life here now.

I specifically accounted for any lifetime ever lived universally present in any atmosphere, any solar system, any galaxy present.

Bob » 26 Oct 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 8:28 am

  If I remember correctly CO2 was about warming problems however it is the winter temperatures (happens every year when the sun moves to the south) that is going to kill large numbers of people who do not have heating fuel, not the summer temperatures.  Strange how non voluntarily classed and grouped neo feudal peasants subsidize the favored corporation groups while also paying the highest inflation monopoly prices then take the blame for a said-claimed warming problem that would help them to survive.

The climate hoaxers and their agenda are attacking humanity from all sides now ........with their great reset.
the destabilization of western society is now going full tilt based on a lie......



 

Majik » 26 Oct 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 10:15 am

The climate hoaxers and their agenda are attacking humanity from all sides now ........with their great reset.
the destabilization of western society is now going full tilt based on a lie......

I ask you to stop pitting dawn against dusk same way your metaphors compare light to night depending on which side of the planet is facing the core of the solar system or everything beyond it.

In here and out there are the same time results are evolving into a new total sum left evolving forward now as a series parallel main event for each result present.

Majik » 26 Oct 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 9:10 am

Most western politicians and governments have swallowed this hoax to such an extent that it puts western civilization in grave  jeapardy. ....

It's the trillions of dollars that's wasted on this stupid **** that bothers me most.  And the fact that people are such big idiots to swallow such idiocy!  They think something foolish like windmill energy is "free", but they refuse to take into account the amount of oil-based lubricant they take to run them, the heavy equipment diesel fuel needed to mine the tons of iron needed for the blades, the tons of concrete needed to install them, the maintenance cost involved, the environmental damage to wildlife, or the noise that makes them unsuitable to plant in any populated areas.  Stupid people hear nothing but "free energy", the fact that the material can't be recycled when they're replaced, and they don't utter a peep when corrupt fools like Biden throws hundreds of billions at the industry every year.  And that's not even comparing the ridiculous notion that EV's save them anything compared to a gasoline car. 
Don't even get me started on that!
 

Zeets2 » 26 Oct 2023, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 8:14 am

The idiots in charge of promoting the climate change folks intentionally refuse to acknowledge that the .04% makes up of CO2 is such a minute fraction of our atmosphere while counting on the ignorance of the populace to understand that CO2 is of vital importance to life on this planet, and ANY slight increase in that meager percentage of 4 tenths of 1% does nothing more that stimulate plant life on earth, which is fundamental to our existence. 

Those morons who happily swallow such a hoax are nothing but brainless dunsels.

Water vapor is the most ubiquitous greenhouse gas but apparently reducing H2O didn't test market as well. Had to go with co2 and pray people lacked a junior high level understanding of photosynthesis and the vital role played by co2 in the environment. 
 

Zeets2 » 26 Oct 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 10:28 am

It's the trillions of dollars that's wasted on this stupid **** that bothers me most.  And the fact that people are such big idiots to swallow such idiocy!  They think something foolish like windmill energy is "free", but they refuse to take into account the amount of oil-based lubricant they take to run them, the heavy equipment diesel fuel needed to mine the tons of iron needed for the blades, the tons of concrete needed to install them, the maintenance cost involved, the environmental damage to wildlife, or the noise that makes them unsuitable to plant in any populated areas.  Stupid people hear nothing but "free energy", the fact that the material can't be recycled when they're replaced, and they don't utter a peep when corrupt fools like Biden throws hundreds of billions at the industry every year.  And that's not even comparing the ridiculous notion that EV's save them anything compared to a gasoline car. 
Don't even get me started on that!
 

Symbolism is only valued by the faithful. Actual life is denied by the facts making reality believable. Ancestors vs contextual characters serving possibilities until extinction.

Zeets2 » 26 Oct 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 10:28 am

It's the trillions of dollars that's wasted on this stupid **** that bothers me most.  And the fact that people are such big idiots to swallow such idiocy!  They think something foolish like windmill energy is "free", but they refuse to take into account the amount of oil-based lubricant they take to run them, the heavy equipment diesel fuel needed to mine the tons of iron needed for the blades, the tons of concrete needed to install them, the maintenance cost involved, the environmental damage to wildlife, or the noise that makes them unsuitable to plant in any populated areas.  Stupid people hear nothing but "free energy", the fact that the material can't be recycled when they're replaced, and they don't utter a peep when corrupt fools like Biden throws hundreds of billions at the industry every year.  And that's not even comparing the ridiculous notion that EV's save them anything compared to a gasoline car. 
Don't even get me started on that!

The agenda of the Climate change  hoax is to fool the world into accepting their great reset and their one world government where they will control humanity and all aspects of life on earth.





 

Neo » 26 Oct 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 10:29 am

Water vapor is the most ubiquitous greenhouse gas but apparently reducing H2O didn't test market as well. Had to go with co2 and pray people lacked a junior high level understanding of photosynthesis and the vital role played by co2 in the environment.

Yeah, even the dumbest liberals can't be convinced that water vapor is hazardous to the survival of the planet!
 

Zeets2 » 26 Oct 2023, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023, 1:00 pm

Yeah, even the dumbest liberals can't be convinced that water vapor is hazardous to the survival of the planet!

Don't dare them. I bet the stroke victim or the guy that thought more US troops in Guam would tip the island nation would believe it.