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For years, budget hawks (Republicans)... warned about the damaging effects of the mushrooming, OUT OF CONTROL national debt, which now totals more than $33 trillion. But they had to speculate about how a debt crisis would materialize, because it was only theoretical.

 WELL.... We’re now beginning to see the real-life effects of an unsustainable federal debt load. In order to finance TRILLIONS of dollars in spending beyond what incoming revenue can support, the US Treasury is now issuing more debt in the form of Treasury securities than global financial markets can readily absorb (or are willing to absorb at lower interest rares)... That forces the borrower—the US government—to pay higher interest rates, which in turn pushes up borrowing costs for consumers and businesses in much of the Western world.

America will be soon paying TRILLIONS of $$$ JUST TO SERVICE the debt... AND, not a PENNY of it will FEED ANYONE, or HOUSE ANYONE, or PROVIDE HEALTHCARE for ANYONE !  YET, we will have to do it or AMERICA will become a Banana Republic !  WHAT are the options?  What they have talked about for DECADES... Cut Spending... OR, Increase Taxes... at levels we have NEVER SEEN before ! 

THANK YOU Democrat Party !!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-nati ... 57147.html

 
 

You realize the GOPe is exactly the same problem?

They both suck hard.

Tempest62 » 30 Oct 2023, 6:53 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023, 6:53 pm

You realize the GOPe is exactly the same problem?

They both suck hard.

True in some respects... HOWEVER !

1)  Democrats have always went for SPENDING and TAXING... which Republicans thought would lead to America becoming a welfare state... and

2)  Republicans have ALWAYS went for controlling spending (like they did in the mid 1990's and were wildly successful)... until George W. Bush, Barack Obama BOTH fell off the fiscal restraint "wagon"... and became DRUNK on OUT of CONTROL spending.  AND THAT'S why we are here today... a RINO Republican and a Liberal Democrat, SPENDING like Drunken sailors ! 

Trump also spent too much, but his reasons were: 1) Rebuilding the Military, COVID control related issues, and 3) Building a border wall... While Joe Biden was just SPENDING for the sake of SPENDING !!

True.

Stop funding terrorist Pissrael

and NaziKraine


         

Sumela » 30 Oct 2023, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023, 9:17 pm

True.

Stop funding terrorist Pissrael

and NaziKraine

       

Like it or NOT... THOSE are the ONLY spending that America MUST follow thru on... to NOT, will only encourage the EVIL EMPIRES to do it AGAIN !

What America CAN do without is BILLIONS spent on:

1)  An anti fossil fuels RAT HOLE,
2)  PAYING to educate, house and feed Illegal immigrants, and
3)  PAYING to subsidize a LAUNDRY LIST of Pro Policies and Liberal issues !

WE NEED a Balanced budget amendment !!

 

Sumela » 30 Oct 2023, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023, 9:17 pm

True.

Stop funding terrorist Pissrael

and NaziKraine

       

I’m all good with not funding Israel at all as long as Ukraine is halted immediately and forever and we GTFO of Ukraine and stop stupidly pissing off Putin.
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Nov 2023, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2023, 10:41 am

Like it or NOT... THOSE are the ONLY spending that America MUST follow thru on... to NOT, will only encourage the EVIL EMPIRES to do it AGAIN !


 

man you are ignorant and naieve. just wow
 

Tempest62 » 01 Nov 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2023, 10:58 am

I’m all good with not funding Israel at all as long as Ukraine is halted immediately and forever and we GTFO of Ukraine and stop stupidly pissing off Putin.

Agreed 100%.   And Putin is pissed, yet look at ALL of West Ukraine....
Kiev, Lvov.  Fully functioning cities.  Imagine if Russia had
carpet bombed W Uke like Israel is Gaza.
 

Tempest62 » 01 Nov 2023, 10:59 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2023, 10:59 am

man you are ignorant and naieve. just wow

Russia and Iran are BOTH Imperialistic, and Totalitarian, SCUMBAG nations that WE are going to have to fight sooner of later (China probably ALSO)... and the sooner the BETTER... AND, BETTER YET... if the heavy lifting can be done by PROXY nations like Ukraine and Israel... WHO BOTH have a dog in the fight?  ...ALL the better !

FYI... IF Ukraine can kick Russia OUT of Sevastopol, and OUT of the Black Sea... THEY can BEAT Russia with a little more of America's help... and the SAME goes for Israel and Iran !

IT'S NOT Ignorant NOR Naive... JUST Pragmatic and Logical !

What's more... BOTH Russia and Iran PICKED these fights... I think they are going to pay a VERY HEAVY and SEVERE PRICE before either war is over !

Over spending has to stop sometime. What better time than now.

Sumela » 01 Nov 2023, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2023, 11:06 am

Agreed 100%.   And Putin is pissed, yet look at ALL of West Ukraine....
Kiev, Lvov.  Fully functioning cities.  Imagine if Russia had
carpet bombed W Uke like Israel is Gaza.

If PUTIN is PISSED... it's because HE PISSED HIMSELF when Ukraine sank HALF of the Russian Black Sea fleet, KICKED the REST of the Russian fleet OUT of Sevastopol (and the Black Sea), AND, essentially LOST the war for Crimea in the process !

As far as carpet bombing civilian populations goes... Gaza IS an area where Hamas USES the civilian population to hide within.. it is PART of their strategy... and then try to WHIP UP the World by accusing Israel of Genocide !!   Well, Israel has decided (and has announced as much to the WORLD many WEEKS ago) that Palestinian civilians need to get OUT of Northern Gaza, GAVE them Southern Gaza as a safe zone, TOLD them that they WILL DIE if they don't, and has LAID the responsibility for their deaths on THEM, and Hamas !

NOW... Israel is going to do what they NEED to DO... ERADICATE HAMAS, their leaders, AND their supporters... BUT, THEY were given WEEKS of notice before it happened !!

THEY have NO ONE to blame but themselves !!