Large Russian advance "strangles" 11,000 Ukrainians in Avdivka: Ukrainian defenses collapsed

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3 Nov 2023 7:30 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Cannonpointer » 03 Nov 2023, 11:44 pm » wrote: If NATO-trained forces stayed in that pocket, it means trannies and queers are the piss poor trainers we all suspected them to be.
American-style “show-and-awe” warfare
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Ukraine’s forces say NATO trained them for wrong fight – POLITICO
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4 Nov 2023 7:21 pm
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Cannonpointer » 03 Nov 2023, 11:29 pm » wrote: Literally anyone who has ever played a military board game could see that one coming. Seriously - there was an enormous pocket that was surrounded on three sides containing divisions of ukrainian defenders. When I saw it on a map, I wondered whether they would retreat or be swallowed - the two obvious options.
A FLANKING MANEUVER OR FLANK ATTACK HAS BEEN USED SINCE THE DAYS OF HANNIBAL AND JULIUS CAESAR.

THE USE OF FLANKING ON THREE FRONTS AND NOT COMPLETELY SURROUNDING THE ENEMY FORCE AS THIS MAY INDUCE IT TO FIGHT WITH GREATER FEROCITY IF IT CANNOT ESCAPE.
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4 Nov 2023 11:37 pm
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Sumela » 04 Nov 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: Russia has Avdiivka in pincers. Just like Bakhmut several months ago.

The three most heavily fortified areas of E. Ukraine:

Mariupol....Russia took that city 15 mos ago and is busily rebuilding it.
Bakhmut...Russia took this city several mos ago.
Avdiivka...the most heavily fortified of them all. Could fall very soon.

Russia has more men, more ammo, better logistics.

NATO/Murica did what the always do...
overestimate themselves and....underestimate their "enemy

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Looking at that map, the quandry the nazis are in is pretty clear, even to a novice. But what the novice might NOT take into account is that soon, it will begin to snow. And then in April, it will stop. What the map we are looking at suggests about logistics is tripled by the russian force-multiplier of winter. 

If anyone wonders why winter is a force-multiplier for the russians, rather than the nazis, it is because the russians are not the ones encircled. The nazis are. Getting supplied is already a sticky wicket. Add snow, and you've got yourself a real cluster ****. 
 
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NOT SO FAST: congress still has a credit line. they will borrow for wars until usa is bankrupt. how much do you think patty murray gets under the table from boeing?
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5 Nov 2023 7:28 am
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  If the war was going as good for Russia as all the fake news you spew they should have already been done 8 months ago.
 As it stands,Pooties little 3 day military exercise has shown the whole world just how weak Russia is.
Ukraine is kicking their ***.
 
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5 Nov 2023 5:50 pm
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Squatchman » 05 Nov 2023, 8:28 am » wrote:   If the war was going as good for Russia as all the fake news you spew they should have already been done 8 months ago.
 As it stands,Pooties little 3 day military exercise has shown the whole world just how weak Russia is.
Ukraine is kicking their ***.
SQEAKY SQUIRTBOY.  :rofl:   :rofl:  
THERE'S NOTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MILTARY MISSION OR MILITARY STRATEGY, SQUIRTBOY.
UKRAINE IS DECIMATED.
NATO AND BIDENS MIC ARE FAILURES. WON'T BE LONG BEFORE BIDEN HAS TO ADMIT FAILURE.
BLACKROCK WILL NOT BE TAKING OVER THE RESOURCES IN UKRAINE. 
NATO WILL NOT BE EXPANDING BORDERS
BIDENS NEW WORLD ORDER IS A FAILURE.
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5 Nov 2023 7:27 pm
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Cannonpointer » 04 Nov 2023, 11:37 pm » wrote: Looking at that map, the quandry the nazis are in is pretty clear, even to a novice. But what the novice might NOT take into account is that soon, it will begin to snow. And then in April, it will stop. What the map we are looking at suggests about logistics is tripled by the russian force-multiplier of winter. 

If anyone wonders why winter is a force-multiplier for the russians, rather than the nazis, it is because the russians are not the ones encircled. The nazis are. Getting supplied is already a sticky wicket. Add snow, and you've got yourself a real cluster ****.
Dead solid perfect. 

BUT before the snow and just days/weeks away is the rainy and muddy season...the "rasputitsa".

Will be near impossible for any Uke traffic in or out of these pincers.  Its a death trap.
 
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