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Obviously Shapiro takes the conflict in Israel personally given that he is a Jew. I can't find it, but he recently made a TikTok about who control Gaza. He essentially said that Gaza is controlled by Hamas, not Israel. Then he went on to say it is a war crime for Hamas to use civilians as shields, thereby relinquishing Israel from any guilt of killing Palestinian civilians.

Two points that he conveniently left out: 

1. Israel controls 80% of Palestine's water supply. The other 20% is polluted ****. You cannot say that a territory is under control of a group of people when their water supply is not under the control of the same people. They gave them Gaza, and in return, they controlled what their life depends on. 
@Neo  this is one example, out of many, what I have been saying. You only see "Israel gave up something for them." Then turn around and think Israel is so generous. These agreements are full of these stupid disgusting tactics. 

2. Yes, Hamas is committing war crimes by using their civilians as shields. We already know that. How does that free Israel from guilt? Al Queda and the Taliban did the same ****. They also used civilians as shields. However, we sent in troops and snipers to pluck them off. We didn't bomb the whole village. 
Here is a view that Shapiro conveniently left out: Just because it is legal to bomb them, doesn't make it morally right. Israel has the resources to do what we did. They choose not to. 

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am

Obviously Shapiro takes the conflict in Israel personally given that he is a Jew. I can't find it, but he recently made a TikTok about who control Gaza. He essentially said that Gaza is controlled by Hamas, not Israel. Then he went on to say it is a war crime for Hamas to use civilians as shields, thereby relinquishing Israel from any guilt of killing Palestinian civilians.

Two points that he conveniently left out: 

1. Israel controls 80% of Palestine's water supply. The other 20% is polluted ****. You cannot say that a territory is under control of a group of people when their water supply is not under the control of the same people. They gave them Gaza, and in return, they controlled what their life depends on. 
@Neo  this is one example, out of many, what I have been saying. You only see "Israel gave up something for them." Then turn around and think Israel is so generous. These agreements are full of these stupid disgusting tactics. 

2. Yes, Hamas is committing war crimes by using their civilians as shields. We already know that. How does that free Israel from guilt? Al Queda and the Taliban did the same ****. They also used civilians as shields. However, we sent in troops and snipers to pluck them off. We didn't bomb the whole village. 
Here is a view that Shapiro conveniently left out: Just because it is legal to bomb them, doesn't make it morally right. Israel has the resources to do what we did. They choose not to. 

there is a 3rd even you won't acknowledge even after I remind everyone how evolving actually happens every day.

Nostradamus'omh » 05 Nov 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 9:59 am

there is a 3rd even you won't acknowledge even after I remind everyone how evolving actually happens every day.

Well...I'll take a shot at this third . Does it have something to with ancestry? 

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 10:02 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:02 am

Well...I'll take a shot at this third . Does it have something to with ancestry? 

Genetic outcomes creating by arriving conceptions changing population left adapting as displaced here now. life evolves, evolution just creates ideas it isn't self evidently going forward as eternally separated now.

guess why that happens every generation gap from within the species itself? Intellectual time management of adapting as displaced to favor those owning intellectual rights to type cast everyone cradle to grave and get paid by everyone for misleading everyone when doing it.

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am

Obviously Shapiro takes the conflict in Israel personally given that he is a Jew. I can't find it, but he recently made a TikTok about who control Gaza. He essentially said that Gaza is controlled by Hamas, not Israel. Then he went on to say it is a war crime for Hamas to use civilians as shields, thereby relinquishing Israel from any guilt of killing Palestinian civilians.

Two points that he conveniently left out: 

1. Israel controls 80% of Palestine's water supply. The other 20% is polluted ****. You cannot say that a territory is under control of a group of people when their water supply is not under the control of the same people. They gave them Gaza, and in return, they controlled what their life depends on. 
@Neo  this is one example, out of many, what I have been saying. You only see "Israel gave up something for them." Then turn around and think Israel is so generous. These agreements are full of these stupid disgusting tactics. 

2. Yes, Hamas is committing war crimes by using their civilians as shields. We already know that. How does that free Israel from guilt? Al Queda and the Taliban did the same ****. They also used civilians as shields. However, we sent in troops and snipers to pluck them off. We didn't bomb the whole village. 
Here is a view that Shapiro conveniently left out: Just because it is legal to bomb them, doesn't make it morally right. Israel has the resources to do what we did. They choose not to.

You left out a convenient detail also......if not for Israel they wouldn't have had any water at all.

Maybe Israel cut off the water so Hamas couldn't poison the Palestinians and blame it on Israel. 

My suppositions are more valid and believable than your's.   
 

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am

Obviously Shapiro takes the conflict in Israel personally given that he is a Jew. I can't find it, but he recently made a TikTok about who control Gaza. He essentially said that Gaza is controlled by Hamas, not Israel. Then he went on to say it is a war crime for Hamas to use civilians as shields, thereby relinquishing Israel from any guilt of killing Palestinian civilians.

Two points that he conveniently left out: 

1. Israel controls 80% of Palestine's water supply. The other 20% is polluted ****. You cannot say that a territory is under control of a group of people when their water supply is not under the control of the same people. They gave them Gaza, and in return, they controlled what their life depends on. 
@Neo  this is one example, out of many, what I have been saying. You only see "Israel gave up something for them." Then turn around and think Israel is so generous. These agreements are full of these stupid disgusting tactics. 

2. Yes, Hamas is committing war crimes by using their civilians as shields. We already know that. How does that free Israel from guilt? Al Queda and the Taliban did the same ****. They also used civilians as shields. However, we sent in troops and snipers to pluck them off. We didn't bomb the whole village. 
Here is a view that Shapiro conveniently left out: Just because it is legal to bomb them, doesn't make it morally right. Israel has the resources to do what we did. They choose not to.

It's not Israels fault Hamas is too chicken **** to fight without hiding behind women and children,

The fact they're doing this PROVES why they must be destroyed once and for all, regardless of cost.
2. The Palestinian people voted Hamas into power, FULLY knowing what they're capable of.

Israel's goal is to wipe Hamas off the face of the earth, while minimizing as many civilian casualties as they can. The civilians who are dying, are being forced by Hamas to stay to be human shields or are doing it willingly.

 

Str8tEdge » 05 Nov 2023, 10:32 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:32 am

It's not Israels fault Hamas is too chicken **** to fight without hiding behind women and children,

The fact they're doing this PROVES why they must be destroyed once and for all, regardless of cost.
2. The Palestinian people voted Hamas into power, FULLY knowing what they're capable of.

Israel's goal is to wipe Hamas off the face of the earth, while minimizing as many civilian casualties as they can. The civilians who are dying, are being forced by Hamas to stay to be human shields or are doing it willingly.

You have not read the history. If you did, you would see that Israel drew first blood a time ago. 

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:30 am

You left out a convenient detail also......if not for Israel they wouldn't have had any water at all.

Maybe Israel cut off the water so Hamas couldn't poison the Palestinians and blame it on Israel. 

My suppositions are more valid and believable than your's. 

Your suppositions are self-inflicting. If Palestinians want full control, then let them suffer the consequences and the glories. It's not about being nice or protecting anyone. Let Palestine try on their own. If they fail, then they fail. If they succeed, then they succeed. The point is that Israel refuses to give up control. 

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 10:37 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:37 am

Your suppositions are self-inflicting. If Palestinians want full control, then let them suffer the consequences and the glories. It's not about being nice or protecting anyone. Let Palestine try on their own. If they fail, then they fail. If they succeed, then they succeed. The point is that Israel refuses to give up control.

The point is Israel refuses to be slaughtered like cattle.

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:34 am

You have not read the history. If you did, you would see that Israel drew first blood a time ago.

NOTHING justifies going into a country and murdering over 1400 civilians including women and children, raping countless women/girls and taking hundreds of hostages. That's NOT an act of self defense.

This was approx 10 times worse than 9/11 when you take population ratio into account.

You will NEVER be able to justify the actions of Hamas or make the argument they don't need to be destroyed, every single las one of them.

 

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 9:51 am

Obviously Shapiro takes the conflict in Israel personally given that he is a Jew. I can't find it, but he recently made a TikTok about who control Gaza. He essentially said that Gaza is controlled by Hamas, not Israel. Then he went on to say it is a war crime for Hamas to use civilians as shields, thereby relinquishing Israel from any guilt of killing Palestinian civilians.

Two points that he conveniently left out: 

1. Israel controls 80% of Palestine's water supply. The other 20% is polluted ****. You cannot say that a territory is under control of a group of people when their water supply is not under the control of the same people. They gave them Gaza, and in return, they controlled what their life depends on. 
@Neo  this is one example, out of many, what I have been saying. You only see "Israel gave up something for them." Then turn around and think Israel is so generous. These agreements are full of these stupid disgusting tactics. 

2. Yes, Hamas is committing war crimes by using their civilians as shields. We already know that. How does that free Israel from guilt? Al Queda and the Taliban did the same ****. They also used civilians as shields. However, we sent in troops and snipers to pluck them off. We didn't bomb the whole village. 
Here is a view that Shapiro conveniently left out: Just because it is legal to bomb them, doesn't make it morally right. Israel has the resources to do what we did. They choose not to.

2) it's because the Israelis have never ever been concerned with being "politically correct" where the US has become a snowflake military...the Israelis don't **** around...'72 Munich Olympics comes to mind...
 
 

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:39 am

The point is Israel refuses to be slaughtered like cattle.

+1000
 

Str8tEdge » 05 Nov 2023, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:46 am

NOTHING justifies going into a country and murdering over 1400 civilians including women and children, raping countless women/girls and taking hundreds of hostages. That's NOT an act of self defense.

 

Does this also apply to Israel? Because they did this first. 

This was approx 10 times worse than 9/11 when you take population ratio into account.
 

Israel has done far worse. But nobody wants to talk about that. 

You will NEVER be able to justify the actions of Hamas or make the argument they don't need to be destroyed, every single las one of them.

The hell I can't. Killing 1000s of civilians to get one Hamas dude? Please. There is no justification for that. None. 

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:39 am

The point is Israel refuses to be slaughtered like cattle.

Then maybe they should not have slaughtered them like cattle first. If you read history, you will see that Israel drew first blood. I assume that you don't want to talk about that though. 

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 11:08 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:08 am

Then maybe they should not have slaughtered them like cattle first. If you read history, you will see that Israel drew first blood. I assume that you don't want to talk about that though.

I’d like to be learn about this. I look forward to an education……including any basis in Zionism.
 
 

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 10:34 am

You have not read the history. If you did, you would see that Israel drew first blood a time ago. 

time doesn't change evolving, evolution changes the perception of eternally separated when evolving forward equally here now.

Tempest62 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:17 am

I’d like to be learn about this. I look forward to an education……including any basis in Zionism.

Zionism is the culprit of all of Israel's actions. Zionism is a movement, not a belief. The Jews don't have a uniform agreement, except for one thing: To establish a land for Jews in their native homeland of Palestine. In 1948, they got it. It's now Israel. The land was awkwardly divided. They want all of the land, not just a fair share. All of it. Since 1948 to the present, they were able to take almost 75% of it. Either through violence or manipulation. Israel drew first blood. They were and still are able to get away with this because they have a friend in a high place, USA. We help them. 

Will someone post that picture of the child actor in Children of the Corn compared to Shapiro again?

that is as priceless as as this one.https://i.postimg.cc/25r6c3cw/ocasio-co ... 0781-1.png

Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:32 am

Zionism is the culprit of all of Israel's actions. Zionism is a movement, not a belief. The Jews don't have a uniform agreement, except for one thing: To establish a land for Jews in their native homeland of Palestine. In 1948, they got it. It's now Israel. The land was awkwardly divided. They want all of the land, not just a fair share. All of it. Since 1948 to the present, they were able to take almost 75% of it. Either through violence or manipulation. Israel drew first blood. They were and still are able to get away with this because they have a friend in a high place, USA. We help them.

Israel was attacked first, they acquired the land as a result of winning battles against terrorists who drew first blood.

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:40 am

Israel was attacked first, they acquired the land as a result of winning battles against terrorists who drew first blood.

Nope.