son of a hamas cofounder

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By Tempest62
5 Nov 2023 7:07 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Coming from this man, eldest son of one of the co-founders of Hamas, and a secular Palestinian Arab, it’s probably worth noting.

https://rumble.com/v3teod7-listen-to-wh ... srael.html
 
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5 Nov 2023 7:17 pm
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I started watching it, but I can't deal with the commentator cutting in to give his piece of things. Why can't he just shut the hell up and let the interview play? 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: I started watching it, but I can't deal with the commentator cutting in to give his piece of things. Why can't he just shut the hell up and let the interview play?
He can be annoying that way. It’s worth marching on though.
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5 Nov 2023 11:18 pm
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Tempest62 » 05 Nov 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: Coming from this man, eldest son of one of the co-founders of Hamas, and a secular Palestinian Arab, it’s probably worth noting.

https://rumble.com/v3teod7-listen-to-wh ... srael.html
I don't find him even a little bit credible. He was an israeli prisoner, and he is convinced that hamas was torturing and killing hundreds of prisoners. Now, MAYBE they were - with the permission of israeli authorities. I have no possible way of vetting that claim. 

When people are locked in jail, the JAILERS are responsible for what they are allowed to do. We have no way of knowing that the israelis were not playing mind games, hiring mercs to pose as hamas. We have no way to know what he went through, whether he was subjected to mind control, whether he suffers from stockholm syndrome, whether he is on the israeli payroll and prefers their lap to their boot. We just don't know. 

He is less credible to me than the average "man in the street" giving testimony. 

What we DO know is that he is a high value propaganda asset for the israelis - an israeli asset by definition. We know they are pleased as **** punch to have a hamas founder's kid on their payroll - and he is certainly on their payroll in some manner or form. How far would israel go to get compliance from the son of a hamas founder? What methods would they employ? When it comes to state intelligence agencies, they ALL see the ends justifying the means - none more so that israel's. 

He simply is not the witness you believe him to be. He cannot be seen as credible. 
 
 
 
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Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: I started watching it, but I can't deal with the commentator cutting in to give his piece of things. Why can't he just shut the hell up and let the interview play?
Because his mossad masters need to hear him squeal their propaganda.
 
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Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 3:03 am » wrote: I don't find him even a little bit credible. He was an israeli prisoner, and he is convinced that hamas was torturing and killing hundreds of prisoners. Now, MAYBE they were - with the permission of israeli authorities. I have no possible way of vetting that claim. 

When people are locked in jail, the JAILERS are responsible for what they are allowed to do. We have no way of knowing that the israelis were not playing mind games, hiring mercs to pose as hamas. We have no way to know what he went through, whether he was subjected to mind control, whether he suffers from stockholm syndrome, whether he is on the israeli payroll and prefers their lap to their boot. We just don't know. 

He is less credible to me than the average "man in the street" giving testimony. 

What we DO know is that he is a high value propaganda asset for the israelis - an israeli asset by definition. We know they are pleased as **** punch to have a hamas founder's kid on their payroll - and he is certainly on their payroll in some manner or form. How far would israel go to get compliance from the son of a hamas founder? What methods would they employ? When it comes to state intelligence agencies, they ALL see the ends justifying the means - none more so that israel's. 

He simply is not the witness you believe him to be. He cannot be seen as credible.
you seem "skeptical"...🧐

huh...who knew?
 
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Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 3:03 am » wrote: I don't find him even a little bit credible. He was an israeli prisoner, and he is convinced that hamas was torturing and killing hundreds of prisoners. Now, MAYBE they were - with the permission of israeli authorities. I have no possible way of vetting that claim. 

When people are locked in jail, the JAILERS are responsible for what they are allowed to do. We have no way of knowing that the israelis were not playing mind games, hiring mercs to pose as hamas. We have no way to know what he went through, whether he was subjected to mind control, whether he suffers from stockholm syndrome, whether he is on the israeli payroll and prefers their lap to their boot. We just don't know. 

He is less credible to me than the average "man in the street" giving testimony. 

What we DO know is that he is a high value propaganda asset for the israelis - an israeli asset by definition. We know they are pleased as **** punch to have a hamas founder's kid on their payroll - and he is certainly on their payroll in some manner or form. How far would israel go to get compliance from the son of a hamas founder? What methods would they employ? When it comes to state intelligence agencies, they ALL see the ends justifying the means - none more so that israel's. 

He simply is not the witness you believe him to be. He cannot be seen as credible.

You're about as trusting as me...  ;)  

Do you remember when you were a kid and how life was simple?
It was easy to snatch happiness out of almost anywhere.

Then, an older kid or your weird uncle clued you in on how awful everybody is.
Maybe that person beat you up or "did something"...    :rolleyes:   :rofl:     Just to make it stick.

Now I can't trust anyone. Even my dog is giving me reason to doubt his love.
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ROG62 » 06 Nov 2023, 7:12 am » wrote: you seem "skeptical"...🧐

huh...who knew?
Except that my skepticism is across the board - and even if it WERE NOT, I'm not a pissy little **** mouther pretending to be neutral. 

Grow a pair, ya fruit. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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DeezerShoove » 06 Nov 2023, 9:20 am » wrote: You're about as trusting as me...  Image  

Do you remember when you were a kid and how life was simple?
It was easy to snatch happiness out of almost anywhere.

Then, an older kid or your weird uncle clued you in on how awful everybody is.
Maybe that person beat you up or "did something"...    Image   Image     Just to make it stick.

Now I can't trust anyone. Even my dog is giving me reason to doubt his love.
lol
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Tempest62 » 05 Nov 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: Coming from this man, eldest son of one of the co-founders of Hamas, and a secular Palestinian Arab, it’s probably worth noting.

https://rumble.com/v3teod7-listen-to-wh ... srael.html
Thanks for the post....but the guy reeks of fraudulence.  Just my opinion.

Just like the alleged Hamas audio weeks back regarding the hospital bombing.  That was really bad.
 
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Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: Except that my skepticism is across the board - and even if it WERE NOT, I'm not a pissy little **** mouther pretending to be neutral. 

Grow a pair, ya fruit.
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He came across to me as believable, he certainly had the passion for it, and I couldn't detect any inconsistencies. Just my armchair opinion though.

Could he have been programmed by Israeli intelligence as Cannon suggests? Its always possible I suppose....I don't know to debate that.

I'm just an ignorant nitwit.
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: Except that my skepticism is across the board - and even if it WERE NOT, I'm not a pissy little **** mouther pretending to be neutral. 

 
That's a very good thing!

Just like being a good general citizen REQUIRES not only a healthy skepticism of one's government, but to actually hold it in some level of actual contempt.
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Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: I started watching it, but I can't deal with the commentator cutting in to give his piece of things. Why can't he just shut the hell up and let the interview play?

 I **** HATE that ****.  I stop watching those videos when I realize the commentator is going to pause it every 15 seconds to run his glory hole
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