Tempest62 » 05 Nov 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑ Coming from this man, it’s probably worth noting.
https://rumble.com/v3teod7-listen-to-wh ... srael.html
He can be annoying that way. It’s worth marching on though.Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I started watching it, but I can't deal with the commentator cutting in to give his piece of things. Why can't he just shut the hell up and let the interview play?
I don't find him even a little bit credible. He was an israeli prisoner, and he is convinced that hamas was torturing and killing hundreds of prisoners. Now, MAYBE they were - with the permission of israeli authorities. I have no possible way of vetting that claim.Tempest62 » 05 Nov 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑ Coming from this man, eldest son of one of the co-founders of Hamas, and a secular Palestinian Arab, it’s probably worth noting.
https://rumble.com/v3teod7-listen-to-wh ... srael.html
Because his mossad masters need to hear him squeal their propaganda.Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I started watching it, but I can't deal with the commentator cutting in to give his piece of things. Why can't he just shut the hell up and let the interview play?
you seem "skeptical"...Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 3:03 am » wrote: ↑ I don't find him even a little bit credible. He was an israeli prisoner, and he is convinced that hamas was torturing and killing hundreds of prisoners. Now, MAYBE they were - with the permission of israeli authorities. I have no possible way of vetting that claim.
When people are locked in jail, the JAILERS are responsible for what they are allowed to do. We have no way of knowing that the israelis were not playing mind games, hiring mercs to pose as hamas. We have no way to know what he went through, whether he was subjected to mind control, whether he suffers from stockholm syndrome, whether he is on the israeli payroll and prefers their lap to their boot. We just don't know.
He is less credible to me than the average "man in the street" giving testimony.
What we DO know is that he is a high value propaganda asset for the israelis - an israeli asset by definition. We know they are pleased as **** punch to have a hamas founder's kid on their payroll - and he is certainly on their payroll in some manner or form. How far would israel go to get compliance from the son of a hamas founder? What methods would they employ? When it comes to state intelligence agencies, they ALL see the ends justifying the means - none more so that israel's.
He simply is not the witness you believe him to be. He cannot be seen as credible.
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“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 3:03 am » wrote: ↑ I don't find him even a little bit credible. He was an israeli prisoner, and he is convinced that hamas was torturing and killing hundreds of prisoners. Now, MAYBE they were - with the permission of israeli authorities. I have no possible way of vetting that claim.
When people are locked in jail, the JAILERS are responsible for what they are allowed to do. We have no way of knowing that the israelis were not playing mind games, hiring mercs to pose as hamas. We have no way to know what he went through, whether he was subjected to mind control, whether he suffers from stockholm syndrome, whether he is on the israeli payroll and prefers their lap to their boot. We just don't know.
He is less credible to me than the average "man in the street" giving testimony.
What we DO know is that he is a high value propaganda asset for the israelis - an israeli asset by definition. We know they are pleased as **** punch to have a hamas founder's kid on their payroll - and he is certainly on their payroll in some manner or form. How far would israel go to get compliance from the son of a hamas founder? What methods would they employ? When it comes to state intelligence agencies, they ALL see the ends justifying the means - none more so that israel's.
He simply is not the witness you believe him to be. He cannot be seen as credible.
Except that my skepticism is across the board - and even if it WERE NOT, I'm not a pissy little **** mouther pretending to be neutral.
lolDeezerShoove » 06 Nov 2023, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑ You're about as trusting as me...![]()
Do you remember when you were a kid and how life was simple?
It was easy to snatch happiness out of almost anywhere.
Then, an older kid or your weird uncle clued you in on how awful everybody is.
Maybe that person beat you up or "did something"...![]()
Just to make it stick.
Now I can't trust anyone. Even my dog is giving me reason to doubt his love.
Thanks for the post....but the guy reeks of fraudulence. Just my opinion.Tempest62 » 05 Nov 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑ Coming from this man, eldest son of one of the co-founders of Hamas, and a secular Palestinian Arab, it’s probably worth noting.
https://rumble.com/v3teod7-listen-to-wh ... srael.html
Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑ Except that my skepticism is across the board - and even if it WERE NOT, I'm not a pissy little **** mouther pretending to be neutral.
Grow a pair, ya fruit.

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“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom That's a very good thing!Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑ Except that my skepticism is across the board - and even if it WERE NOT, I'm not a pissy little **** mouther pretending to be neutral.
Vegas » 05 Nov 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I started watching it, but I can't deal with the commentator cutting in to give his piece of things. Why can't he just shut the hell up and let the interview play?