Liberal Forum

Simple proposition. We can get energy from clean resources cheaper in some cases then oil. Unfortunately the oil companies can just rise prices. Then everyone complains and the oil companies lower prices a little and keep their business. Works well doesn't it? By the way the Earth is slowly dying.

Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm

Simple proposition. We can get energy from clean resources cheaper in some cases then oil. Unfortunately the oil companies can just rise prices. Then everyone complains and the oil companies lower prices a little and keep their business. Works well doesn't it? By the way the Earth is slowly dying.

Ya dumb arss. Every product we use- has oil in it... it's the plastic in every appliance- fabric- tires.. The list is to long to even bother...
soles of your sneakers are made of oil.  You gonna drive them EV's on metal rims? good luck with that.

 

Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm

Simple proposition. We can get energy from clean resources cheaper in some cases then oil. Unfortunately the oil companies can just rise prices. Then everyone complains and the oil companies lower prices a little and keep their business. Works well doesn't it? By the way the Earth is slowly dying.

what is the status quo of evolving in real time life never develops the same reproductions twice to population evolving forward now in series parallel flow of living one at a time?

Bet you won't say it? genetics eternally separates the numbers lived or living forward here now.

sootedupCyndi » 08 Nov 2023, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:11 pm

Ya dumb arss. Every product we use- has oil in it... it's the plastic in every appliance- fabric- tires.. The list is to long to even bother...
soles of your sneakers are made of oil.  You gonna drive them EV's on metal rims? good luck with that.

How long has mankind been using a liquid for lubrication, fuel, raw material?
Electronics cannot conjure a replacement for that physical requirement.
In fact, sunlight and wind are direct causes for needing oil.
Those two (sun and wind) dry things out.

Whale oil is probably not making a comeback either.


ps
The earth is not dying. It's just getting ****. Doomsayers don't know anything.
Wanna feel better? Just gotta read all the scary books from 30-40 years ago.
Weather, famine, disease, apocalyptic wars, homos, Nazis, Spotted Owl and Snail Darter...
...and **** people digging into Mother Earth using up the place.

We have been dead for decades apparently.        

DeezerShoove » 08 Nov 2023, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:22 pm

How long has mankind been using a liquid for lubrication, fuel, raw material?
Electronics cannot conjure a replacement for that physical requirement.
In fact, sunlight and wind are direct causes for needing oil.
Those two (sun and wind) dry things out.

Whale oil is probably not making a comeback either.

well? we could always get a horse like the Amish.  
 

sootedupCyndi » 08 Nov 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:27 pm

well? we could always get a horse like the Amish.

The Amish version of New York or Tokyo would be a sight.

Why is it the "Sustainability Assholes" never include all people?
The Aleutians are exactly like Madagascar, I know, but each has their own version of pizza.
The Andes sheep herder and the guy in a Stuttgart brewery certainly have the same hobbies.
That Chinese guy working in a sheetmetal stamping plant, Mr. Eight-Fingers, is common as sand...
 

Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm

Simple proposition. We can get energy from clean resources cheaper in some cases then oil. Unfortunately the oil companies can just rise prices.

You DUMB SKANK BITCH!! DUMBER THAN 2 FREIGHT TRAINS FULL OF ROCKS!!.............

One crisp winter morning in Sweden, a cute little girl named Greta woke up to a perfect world, one where there were no petroleum products ruining the earth. She tossed aside her cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” she asked.

“Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother.

“What happened to the carpet?” she asked.

“The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response.Greta smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush her teeth where instead of a toothbrush, she found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles.

“Your old toothbrush?” noted her godmother, “Also nylon.”

“Where’s the water?” asked Greta.

“Down the road in the canal,” replied her godmother, ‘Just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it”

“Why’s there no running water?” Greta asked, becoming a little peevish.

“Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Sweden’s energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . .

“What’s for breakfast?” interjected Greta, whose head was hurting.

"Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied her godmother. “Raw.”

“How so, raw?” inquired Greta.

“Well, . . .” And once again, Greta was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Sweden anymore.

“But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Greta.

“Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.”

“What?!” interjected Greta. “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.”

“Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Swedish fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.”

This represents only a fraction of Greta’s day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fiber boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet.

Tune in tomorrow when Greta needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
 
 
 

sootedupCyndi » 08 Nov 2023, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:11 pm

Ya dumb arss. Every product we use- has oil in it... it's the plastic in every appliance- fabric- tires.. The list is to long to even bother...
soles of your sneakers are made of oil.  You gonna drive them EV's on metal rims? good luck with that.

So are you saying you like big oil?
 

There is nothing we use that doesn't require oil.

sootedupCyndi » 08 Nov 2023, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:11 pm

Ya dumb arss. Every product we use- has oil in it... it's the plastic in every appliance- fabric- tires.. The list is to long to even bother...
soles of your sneakers are made of oil.  You gonna drive them EV's on metal rims? good luck with that.

yes user @Monderegal  is real dumb arss as you say
 

Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:42 pm

So are you saying you like big oil?

Read above your REPLY, DUMB BITCH!!!

I love OIL and the COMPANIES THAT INVEST THEIR MONEY TO PROVIDE MORE OF IT!!

WITHOUT "Big oil" your life as YOU DEMAND IT, would END IN ONE MASSIVE THUD!!

THAT'S HOW **** STUPID YOU ARE!!

Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:42 pm

So are you saying you like big oil?

maybe you say socialize oil? 
 

Maybe it's not wrong to say so we can own the libs.

You don't think Government would weponise oil against us.

Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:42 pm

So are you saying you like big oil?

no - I'm not saying i like big oil.
I like them betta then Big Pharma  
do you realize how much of everything is made of oil.
sure- I'd prefer a car with chrome- not gonna happen! all plastic. Everything has it in it. 
This world couldn't function now with out it.  
you silly!

 

Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:50 pm

Maybe it's not wrong to say so we can own the libs.

What is your problem?

this Child Groomer, Sexual Predator is very strange

Bob
 
 

sootedupCyndi » 08 Nov 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:27 pm

well? we could always get a horse like the Amish.

           Then they would be whining about the Emissions from the farting Horses.... 

           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7nHyzyyU0
 

No oil? How much pollution would there be if everyone had to build campfires for heat.

Kobia2 » 08 Nov 2023, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2023, 12:57 pm

           Then they would be whining about the Emissions from the farting Horses.... 

           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7nHyzyyU0

They really want to kill off cows- very sad- because of farts. Eat bugs. Crunch crunch. Call the dentist? There's a bug stuck in my toof.
Must have been a prickly leg- halp. Halp!!!
****- I had another 100 to go before I felt full.   
 

I don't that it's really a damning to say that we should transition from oil. If it can be done cheaply and environmentally, consider the alternatives.