So you don't want to stop oil?Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: ↑ ALL? Really? I'm not advocating for the complete end of oil. Alternatives? For some use yes. I think that's reasonable.
Why single on United States done most to reverse what India and China get exemptions from complying correct? Both existed thousands of years prior to America formed in 1789.Monderegal » 09 Nov 2023, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑ I'm not going into the specifics of the science of hydrocarbons. I'm just suggesting that there should be global effort to restrict the use of burning hydrocarbons as an energy source. Smog and the air quality in places like China and India speak for themselves.
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So what are your plans for the resulting KEROSENE, DIESEL, AND GASOLINE products that are a DIRECT RESULT of the process of refining crude oil if you only want things that you like???Monderegal » 09 Nov 2023, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑ I'm not going into the specifics of the science of hydrocarbons. I'm just suggesting that there should be global effort to restrict the use of burning hydrocarbons as an energy source. Smog and the air quality in places like China and India speak for themselves.
anything has to be better than understanding actual limitations to adapting as displaced will be the theme of anyone's answer defending their alternate ancestral reality same as you practice within a colonial ideology and hive mentality.Beekeeper » 10 Nov 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑ So what are your plans for the resulting KEROSENE, DIESEL, AND GASOLINE products that are a DIRECT RESULT of the process of refining crude oil if you only want things that you like???
The earth is not dying, whats happening is western people are voluntarily and now non voluntarily signing into a Jim Jones feudal monarchy styled commune while the other 2/3 of the world is looking to survive on the USA already sparsely populated area.Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Simple proposition. We can get energy from clean resources cheaper in some cases then oil. Unfortunately the oil companies can just rise prices. Then everyone complains and the oil companies lower prices a little and keep their business. Works well doesn't it? By the way the Earth is slowly dying.
You always make exceptions a social norm, while genetics has a normal way of spacing ancestors apart as eternally separated now.Bob » 10 Nov 2023, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑ The earth is not dying, whats happening is western people are voluntarily and now non voluntarily signing into a Jim Jones feudal monarchy styled commune while the other 2/3 of the world is looking to survive on the USA already sparsely populated area.
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Feudal monarchy has tended to be the social norm.Breaking away from the monarchy class and group subsidies form of government was very difficult and may never be achieved again.Nostradamus'omh » 10 Nov 2023, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑ You always make exceptions a social norm, while genetics has a normal way of spacing ancestors apart as eternally separated now.
Again, you are discussing intellectual overrides to adapting in real time genetics maintains eternal separation of participants saving humanity trained to believe they aren't living as eternally separated now.Bob » 10 Nov 2023, 9:41 am » wrote: ↑ Feudal monarchy has tended to be the social norm.Breaking away from the monarchy class and group subsidies form of government was very difficult and may never be achieved again.
Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Simple proposition. We can get energy from clean resources cheaper in some cases then oil. Unfortunately the oil companies can just rise prices. Then everyone complains and the oil companies lower prices a little and keep their business. Works well doesn't it? By the way the Earth is slowly dying.
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Get some new material.EDC4ALL! » 10 Nov 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑ where does your electrical energy come from to power your green EV's?
Beekeeper » 10 Nov 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑ So what are your plans for the resulting KEROSENE, DIESEL, AND GASOLINE products that are a DIRECT RESULT of the process of refining crude oil if you only want things that you like???
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SO you have NO SOLUTION on how to use or destroy the RESULTING GASOLINE, DIESEL, or KEROSENE that would be a BY PRODUCT of refining crude oil so you can KEEP the **** you love and not the GREATEST SOURCE OF ENERGY WE HAVE??Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑ I think we should lower the dependence on Fossil fuels.
EDC4ALL! » 10 Nov 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑ where does your electrical energy come from to power your green EV's?
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I'm not a chemical engineer. Sorry.Beekeeper » 10 Nov 2023, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑ SO you have NO SOLUTION on how to use or destroy the RESULTING GASOLINE, DIESEL, or KEROSENE that would be a BY PRODUCT of refining crude oil so you can KEEP the **** you love and not the GREATEST SOURCE OF ENERGY WE HAVE??