So you want to get rid of oil?

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By Monderegal
8 Nov 2023 11:02 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: I'm not a chemical engineer. Sorry.
It IS possible for you to "walk the walk" and to show the rest of us how to  live completely independent of all petro-chemical goods and materials just like the Native Americans and the African Jungle Savages did way back when. 
Animal fat, vegetable fat and tree saps were highly valued as  waterproofers, lubricants and adhesives.
Since the brain is such a rich source of fat, brain juice was used to process raw animal skins into all sorts of well preserved and supple leathers for tents, clothing, containers, weapons, etc.
There's still all sorts of wide open land left in this world for truly woke "get back to nature" people like you to inhabit and to show the rest of us petrochemical users "the error of our ways".... :)  

 
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10 Nov 2023 12:56 pm
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Kobia2 » 08 Nov 2023, 12:57 pm » wrote:            Then they would be whining about the Emissions from the farting Horses.... 

           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7nHyzyyU0
AND COWS,
ALREADY SHUTTING DOWN THE SECOND BIGGEST BEEF PRODUCING FARM IN THE WORLD.  
 
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10 Nov 2023 1:07 pm
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 10:56 am » wrote: I think we should lower the dependence on Fossil fuels.
FOR WHAT PURPOSE? 
WE ADD HALF OF THE POLLUTANTS INTO THE ENVIRONMENT IN COMPARISON TO THE LEADING POLLUTER IN THE WORLD AND PER CAPITA WE ARE NUMBER 9.
AMERICA IS A LONG WAY OFF FROM ENERGY INDEPENDENCE OR EVEN CURTAILING FOSSIL FUEL USE. 
GREEN ENERGY GURUS ARE MISLEAD AND FOLLOWING A NEW WORLD ORDER MANIFESTO. ONE THAT GLOBALISTS DEEM AS THEIR NEW FINANCIAL ENTERPRISE. ONE THAT WILL ALSO HELP TO REDUCE THE POPULATION
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10 Nov 2023 1:14 pm
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: I'm not a chemical engineer. Sorry.
Then your entire PREMISE IS TOTALLY FLAWED and either you are TOO OBSTINATE or TOO STUPID to understand the dilemma you are creating by your demand to "stop using oil".!!

Oops!!
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Beekeeper » 10 Nov 2023, 2:14 pm » wrote: Then your entire PREMISE IS TOTALLY FLAWED and either you are TOO OBSTINATE or TOO STUPID to understand the dilemma you are creating by your demand to "stop using oil".!!

Oops!!

In some cases, lower dependence. That's the verbiage I have been using.
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
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10 Nov 2023 1:57 pm
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righteous » 10 Nov 2023, 1:56 pm » wrote: AND COWS,
ALREADY SHUTTING DOWN THE SECOND BIGGEST BEEF PRODUCING FARM IN THE WORLD.
           The assholes who want to eliminate Cows ought to step up and volunteer to be Beef Substitutes ---- problem solved. 
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10 Nov 2023 2:18 pm
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GHETTOBLASTER » 10 Nov 2023, 1:32 pm » wrote: It IS possible for you to "walk the walk" and to show the rest of us how to  live completely independent of all petro-chemical goods and materials just like the Native Americans and the African Jungle Savages did way back when. 
Animal fat, vegetable fat and tree saps were highly valued as  waterproofers, lubricants and adhesives.
Since the brain is such a rich source of fat, brain juice was used to process raw animal skins into all sorts of well preserved and supple leathers for tents, clothing, containers, weapons, etc.
There's still all sorts of wide open land left in this world for truly woke "get back to nature" people like you to inhabit and to show the rest of us petrochemical users "the error of our ways".... Image  
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I could buy a Tesla I guess if I wanted to walk the walk. I could also install solar panels. I hear they pay for themselves after a few years and you can actually earn money selling it back to the grid.
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
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10 Nov 2023 3:07 pm
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: In some cases, lower dependence. That's the verbiage I have been using.
Hate to tell you *******, but your premise is STILL FLAWED!!!

You have totally REFUSED to answer the burning question- WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE GASOLINE, DIESEL, AND KEROSENE BYPRODUCTS OF REFINING THE OIL INTO THINGS YOU WANT TO KEEP???

Because if you "lower dependence" on those fuels, you have NO OTHER BYPRODUCTS in the quantities you need to supply the OTHER THINGS you like and want to keep!! You know, like the COMPUTER and CELL PHONE you love, the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the road you drive on, the wiring in your house, the refrigeration system you depend on, etc., etc., etc.

Suck on that for a while and then ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!!
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The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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10 Nov 2023 3:31 pm
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: I'm not a chemical engineer. Sorry.
You are a typecast performing artist with a career at pretending now isn't eternity in plain sight. You rather go to your grave ignoring your equal time evolving than adapt as displaced equally alive limited to eternally separated now.
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 3:18 pm » wrote: I could buy a Tesla I guess if I wanted to walk the walk. I could also install solar panels. I hear they pay for themselves after a few years and you can actually earn money selling it back to the grid.
:rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  
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Kobia2 » 10 Nov 2023, 2:57 pm » wrote:            The assholes who want to eliminate Cows ought to step up and volunteer to be Beef Substitutes ---- problem solved. 
AND THE ASSHOLES PUSHING TO ELIMINATE GAS, AND OIL AND FOSSIL FUEL POWERED VEHICLES SHOULD ALL BE GIVEN BICYCLES AND TRICYCLES TO RIDE.   
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EDC4ALL! » 10 Nov 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: ^^^^^^sniffs pictures of Putins *** crack
^^^^^^ licks mothers ***  :drool:  
 
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Sergei » 10 Nov 2023, 8:34 pm » wrote: ^^^^^^ licks mothers ***  Image
Nice hat Sergei
 
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 3:18 pm » wrote: I could buy a Tesla I guess if I wanted to walk the walk. I could also install solar panels. I hear they pay for themselves after a few years and you can actually earn money selling it back to the grid.
IF YOU GOT THE FINANCES, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT. 

TESLAS ARE HYPED UP.
POTENTIAL BOMBS IN BROAD SIDE COLLISIONS.
NOT WORTH KEEPING FOR THE LONG HAUL. BATTERY REPLACEMENT TOO EXPENSIVE 

SOLAR PANELS DON'T LAST FOREVER AND THE COST TO REPLACE THEM IS ASTRONOMICAL FOR A MODEST SIZE HOME.
PAYING FOR THEMSELVES BEFORE A REPLACEMENT IS A FALACY.
REMOVING THE PANELS TO REPLACE A ROOF IS ANOTHER HUGE EXPENSE.

  
 
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sootedupCyndi » 08 Nov 2023, 12:11 pm » wrote: Ya dumb arss. Every product we use- has oil in it... it's the plastic in every appliance- fabric- tires.. The list is to long to even bother...
soles of your sneakers are made of oil.  You gonna drive them EV's on metal rims? good luck with that.

Your **** has oil in to help the insertion of *** cock...
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Sergei » 10 Nov 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  
it is such a scam, got an estimate for so called system and it was setup to never reach the potential they promised. they wanted 70K for a system that would work 95% of my load during the summer when sunlight is working 15 hours a day but in winter when it is only 10 hours a day. Now imagine 6 months of the year daylight is less than 12 hours and only about 4 months it gets over 13 hours a day.

People fail to navigate actual evolving when debating what goals to socially reach tomorrow as evolving never exceeds adapting to space in the moment here every revolution around the star and one's own body is never same form shaped when arrived and it really doesn't matter timing it from conception or birth because one's body never duplicates itself conceived to decomposed always changing cells shape, form until dead and the regeneration reverses the growing process to imploding/decomposing from expanding out of a fertilized cell or baby at birth.

I grew tired of being everyone else's stooge where I get the blame, shame, flame, gamed while those in charge reep the rewards of keeping everyone fooled cradle to grave.
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Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: Simple proposition. We can get energy from clean resources cheaper in some cases then oil. Unfortunately the oil companies can just rise prices. Then everyone complains and the oil companies lower prices a little and keep their business. Works well doesn't it? By the way the Earth is slowly dying.
Oil is the earth's blood. We take some, she makes more. 

In an entropic universe, complaining about death is a bit effeminate. Nothing WE are doing is killing the earth, If it were, the earth would shake us off of her.
 
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Monderegal » 08 Nov 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: ALL? Really? I'm not advocating for the complete end of oil. Alternatives? For some use yes. I think that's reasonable.
There is as much oil beneath the ground as there is water above it, Oil is liquid carbon - it's what everything on the planet is made of. The planet used more oil from 2010 to 2020 than in its entire previous history - and finished the decade with more known, recoverable reserves on the books than it started the decade with. The same was true from 2000 to 2010. And from 1990 to 2000. 

Since humanity discovered that oil would power locomotion, not one decade has passed that humanity did not use more oil in that single decade than had ever been used in all previous decades combined. Not just more than the previous decade - but than all previous decades combined. That is some incredible exponential growth. And after each of those banner decades, we had more recoverable oil on the books than we started the decade with. 

So there isn't any shortage. There isn't any big push to find another source of power from THAT direction. 

That said, oil is heavy to haul and is a pollutant/fire hazard if spilled during haulage. So that is an incentive to use oil at point of production, creating oil-based products. The very best use a country can make of its excess oil is to manufacture it - not sell it on the open market as a raw resource for some OTHER country to transform into value-added products. Why ship jobs overseas?

Enough of that - let's address the elephant in the room. The earth is at an historic low regarding atmospheric C02. At 400 ppm, the earths vegetation is starved, stunted and struggling. When photosynthesis was evolved, the atmosphere was between 1600 and 2000 ppm C02. Many of the fruits and vegetables you enjoy are hot house grown under carbon enhanced conditions. If more carbon got into the atmosphere, plants would thrive, life would thrive. More carbon means more life. Carbon IS life. You are made of it. 

All climate alarmists are pseudo-science believing cultist whack jobs. They are literally members of a death cult, And too stupid to know it. 

There are some good reasons to stop using oil - just as soon as a replacement shows up. I've heard rumbles about AI energy, where they focus multiple lasers and create an artificial star in a bottle or some ****. If that pans out, we'll have ourselves a new energy source. Until then, thank God for oil.
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Monderegal » 10 Nov 2023, 3:18 pm » wrote: I could buy a Tesla I guess if I wanted to walk the walk. I could also install solar panels. I hear they pay for themselves after a few years and you can actually earn money selling it back to the grid.
No, you won't be able to drive a Tesla or have solar panels if you "end oil" you DUMB BITCH!!!

OIL is used to MAKE THE TIRES, the insulation for the wiring used, and all of the PLASTIC AND VINYL PARTS needed to assemble the piece of ****. NONE of that will exist. Same for your solar panels. NO INSULATION of the wiring will happen without OIL and that means no solar panels.Not to mention that DIESEL FUEL USED to mine the minerals needed to make the BATTERIES and the INSULATION AROUND THOSE BATTERIES!!

Sucks you have ZERO ABILITY to use ANY LOGIC about your stance and can only regurgitate the **** your handlers have shoved up that MORONIC *** OF YOURS, HUH??
 
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The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Cannonpointer » 10 Nov 2023, 11:55 pm » wrote: Oil is the earth's blood. We take some, she makes more. 

In an entropic universe, complaining about death is a bit effeminate. Nothing WE are doing is killing the earth, If it were, the earth would shake us off of her.
 
****. Oil is decomposed life from about 1,000,000 generations ago and longer. Your metaphors mislead by design from those seeking intellectual control of individual brains to choose to believe now isn't eternity to micromanage everyone's time to pretend money is the root of all evil live.

temptation to believe now isn't eternity creates opportunities to control all 5 generation caps to be governed by power of suggestion.

How humanity has historically corrupted each great great grandchild added into the species so far. Please you don't have to confirm or deny, it is self evident by the evolving process in plain sight. Chromosomes are results, not ideas of anything else is possible.

Don't take this personal CP, I was debunking the OP.
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