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Sometimes the SINCEREST acceptance of FACT and REALITY is made by PEOPLE voting with their FEET !  So, Millions of People, and Billions of $$$, are VOTING with their FEET.. and FLOCKING to RED STATES !!

HA!!  AND, Joe Biden is TRYING to take CREDIT for it all !  Even though Red State Governors, and Red State Congressmen have been a THORN on Democrat Politicians ASSES (including Joe Biden)... and they have RAILED against their (Democrat) policies.. i.e. Securing Borders, Re-locating illegals, Parents Rights, Law & Order, and Making America GREAT Again... Joe Biden is STILL trying to take credit for things he had NOTHING to do with.. or was on the EXACT OPPOSITE side of !

Truth and Democrat Politicians is like Oil & Water... Mix it up, and Give it a second... and you can CLEARLY see the difference !  Joe Biden and Democrats however... would rather keep mixing, and HOPE that America doesn't SEE the TRUTH !

America is NOT that STUPID !

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gun-cr ... tical-bias

It's called Blue flight. Get out of Blue states as fast as possible.

The reason that folks leave CA to go to NV, ID, MT, UT, and CO... cost of living. The data proves it over and over again. When surveyed, the number one reason by a wide margin is cost of living. And as they leave to these places..they are becoming less red or even blue.

I left California because of the stupid politics and the inflated prices. Arizona is 100 times better. No woke **** and everything is cheaper. Where I live has no crowds, ***, mexicans or all the freaks that live in California.

PhiloBeddo » 30 Nov 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 1:06 pm

I left California because of the stupid politics and the inflated prices. Arizona is 100 times better. No woke **** and everything is cheaper. Where I live has no crowds, ***, mexicans or all the freaks that live in California.

"everything is cheaper"

Most others say this as well.. Cost of living. Lots of places in CA that are not crowded. Ever been to Alturas or Bishop?

Bishop a lot. On the weekends it's a mad house

PhiloBeddo » 30 Nov 2023, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 1:15 pm

Bishop a lot. On the weekends it's a mad house

We must have different interpretations of what is a mad house. Been there 5 or 6 times in the last 2 years and always on a weekend. Pretty tame stuff honestly. I would gladly move to any of those towns in the Eastern Sierras; Bishop, Lone Pine, Bridgeport, Independence, or Benton. 

We used to go camping in Bishop and mammoth for years. Never again. Crowded and reservations requires. It's ****. Arizona, Colorado and Utah only now.

PhiloBeddo » 30 Nov 2023, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 1:21 pm

We used to go camping in Bishop and mammoth for years. Never again. Crowded and reservations requires. It's ****. Arizona, Colorado and Utah only now.

When the demand exceeds the supply.. you can't blame them for requiring reservations. Anyways, plenty of places in CA that are not crowded such as the northern 1/3 of it. Weed, Alturas, Burney, Susanville, Quincy, Fort Bidwell... all places that you can leave society behind. 

impartialobserver » 30 Nov 2023, 12:51 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 12:51 pm

The reason that folks leave CA to go to NV, ID, MT, UT, and CO... cost of living. The data proves it over and over again. When surveyed, the number one reason by a wide margin is cost of living. And as they leave to these places..they are becoming less red or even blue.

Well?  And WHY is "Cost of Living" such an issue in CA?  State taxes are high, Property taxes are high, Gas taxes are high, UTILITIES are HIGH, taxes on businesses are High, Regulations are CRAZY... RAISING the cost of products to the consumers, ALL SORTS of nickle and dime taxes...

AND, Not to mention we have Homeless living EVERYWHERE... under over passes and bridges, at off ramps, EVERYWHERE !!  I still live here, but the VAST majority of these costs... is BECAUSE of Liberal Politicians and Policies... over  the last 40 years !!
 

ConservativeWave » 30 Nov 2023, 1:32 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 1:32 pm

Well?  And WHY is "Cost of Living" such an issue in CA?  State taxes are high, Property taxes are high, Gas taxes are high, UTILITIES are HIGH, taxes on businesses are High, Regulations are CRAZY... RAISING the cost of products to the consumers, ALL SORTS of nickle and dime taxes...

AND, Not to mention we have Homeless living EVERYWHERE... under over passes and bridges, at off ramps, EVERYWHERE !!  I still live here, but the VAST majority of these costs... is BECAUSE of Liberal Politicians and Policies... over  the last 40 years !!

When we look at the confidential survey results.. the overwhelming number one choice is cost of living. Politics is an option and yet it ranks 7th or worst. That tells me that if it was less expensive.. less would move away. How else can you tell that they value money over politics? Easy.. the drivers license surrender database coupled with data on home prices shows that they overwhelmingly move to a place where homes cost less such as Reno, Boise, Spokane, Bend OR, Tucson AZ, or Salt Lake city. 

impartialobserver » 30 Nov 2023, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 1:36 pm

When we look at the confidential survey results.. the overwhelming number one choice is cost of living. Politics is an option and yet it ranks 7th or worst. That tells me that if it was less expensive.. less would move away. How else can you tell that they value money over politics? Easy.. the drivers license surrender database coupled with data on home prices shows that they overwhelmingly move to a place where homes cost less such as Reno, Boise, Spokane, Bend OR, Tucson AZ, or Salt Lake city.

MY POINT is that a "High Cost of Living"... comes from ALL SORTS of places... and is caused by ALL SORTS of Political decisions, that CREATE the "HIGH COST of Living" !

You don't just WAKE UP one day, and have a HIGH cost of living... In California its because of pretty much 35-40 years now, of PREDOMINANTLY Liberal Democrat Leadership !  I can ATTEST to that...

AND, I'll add ONE ADDITIONAL source... the Democrat Party in California is in the POCKET of big Labor... Democrats have voted for some PRETTY STUPID THINGS over the years... in exchange for BIG Unions Donors and Donations, UNION "get out the vote" efforts, and STUFFING ballot Boxes...

It has made the California the UTOPIA of CORRUPTION that it is today !!

Democrats are the ones moving into Tred states.
Look at Texas. They aren't staying red.
We're taking over the whole country.
A lot more Democrat voters are moving to rural areas and it doesn't mean they'll be voting republican.

impartialobserver » 30 Nov 2023, 12:51 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 12:51 pm

The reason that folks leave CA to go to NV, ID, MT, UT, and CO... cost of living. The data proves it over and over again. When surveyed, the number one reason by a wide margin is cost of living. And as they leave to these places..they are becoming less red or even blue.

and **** in the streets...
 

Squatchman » 02 Dec 2023, 8:06 am » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 8:06 am

Democrats are the ones moving into Tred states.
Look at Texas. They aren't staying red.
We're taking over the whole country.
A lot more Democrat voters are moving to rural areas and it doesn't mean they'll be voting republican.

That's how cancer works...
 

ConservativeWave » 30 Nov 2023, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 10:17 am

Sometimes the SINCEREST acceptance of FACT and REALITY is made by PEOPLE voting with their FEET !  So, Millions of People, and Billions of $$$, are VOTING with their FEET.. and FLOCKING to RED STATES !!

HA!!  AND, Joe Biden is TRYING to take CREDIT for it all !  Even though Red State Governors, and Red State Congressmen have been a THORN on Democrat Politicians ASSES (including Joe Biden)... and they have RAILED against their (Democrat) policies.. i.e. Securing Borders, Re-locating illegals, Parents Rights, Law & Order, and Making America GREAT Again... Joe Biden is STILL trying to take credit for things he had NOTHING to do with.. or was on the EXACT OPPOSITE side of !

Truth and Democrat Politicians is like Oil & Water... Mix it up, and Give it a second... and you can CLEARLY see the difference !  Joe Biden and Democrats however... would rather keep mixing, and HOPE that America doesn't SEE the TRUTH !

America is NOT that STUPID !

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gun-cr ... tical-bias

Taking their urban sprawl mentality with them.

We don’t need all the red votes in a few states they need to spread out

BuckNaked » 02 Dec 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 7:17 pm

We don’t need all the red votes in a few states they need to spread out

That's not the problem, all the Democrat maggots are infesting less than 10 cities.

ConservativeWave » 30 Nov 2023, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2023, 10:17 am

Sometimes the SINCEREST acceptance of FACT and REALITY is made by PEOPLE voting with their FEET !  So, Millions of People, and Billions of $$$, are VOTING with their FEET.. and FLOCKING to RED STATES !!

HA!!  AND, Joe Biden is TRYING to take CREDIT for it all !  Even though Red State Governors, and Red State Congressmen have been a THORN on Democrat Politicians ASSES (including Joe Biden)... and they have RAILED against their (Democrat) policies.. i.e. Securing Borders, Re-locating illegals, Parents Rights, Law & Order, and Making America GREAT Again... Joe Biden is STILL trying to take credit for things he had NOTHING to do with.. or was on the EXACT OPPOSITE side of !

Truth and Democrat Politicians is like Oil & Water... Mix it up, and Give it a second... and you can CLEARLY see the difference !  Joe Biden and Democrats however... would rather keep mixing, and HOPE that America doesn't SEE the TRUTH !

America is NOT that STUPID !

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gun-cr ... tical-bias

Running away from the states they ruined with their **** policies and ideas.

RebelGator » 02 Dec 2023, 7:22 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 7:22 pm

That's not the problem, all the Democrat maggots are infesting less than 10 cities.

And that's why democrat SCUM want to do away with the electoral college.