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Israel is telling the civilians to go South to a place that borders Egypt. Egypt told the refugees to stay on their own land. That's more land taken from the Palestinians. Well done Israel. You all are so Godly. 

I still can't understand why they don't use snipers and special troops to target Hamas. It may take longer, but the destruction would be exponentially less. 

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm

Israel is telling the civilians to go South to a place that borders Egypt. Egypt told the refugees to stay on their own land. That's more land taken from the Palestinians. Well done Israel. You all are so Godly. 

I still can't understand why they don't use snipers and special troops to target Hamas. It may take longer, but the destruction would be exponentially less. 

Really? ideas are cheap theatrics of anything is possible, evolving is a process you won't accept happens in plain sight.

Oh, when does the oil drilling harvesting fossil fuels begin? <sarcasm.

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm

Israel is telling the civilians to go South to a place that borders Egypt. Egypt told the refugees to stay on their own land. That's more land taken from the Palestinians. Well done Israel. You all are so Godly. 

I still can't understand why they don't use snipers and special troops to target Hamas. It may take longer, but the destruction would be exponentially less.

The Synagogue of Satan
 

Sumela » 01 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm

The Synagogue of Satan
 

like your Temple of Doom

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm

Israel is telling the civilians to go South to a place that borders Egypt. Egypt told the refugees to stay on their own land. That's more land taken from the Palestinians. Well done Israel. You all are so Godly. 

I still can't understand why they don't use snipers and special troops to target Hamas. It may take longer, but the destruction would be exponentially less.

Because, their country was attacked.  Why should Israel play stupid liberal patty-cake games with the enemy that attacked them?  They have every right to go into Gaza and destroy Hamas and its war machine.  If Hamas and the Palestinians built it under civilian structures and use their own people as shields, that's on them.

Under George Bush, did we send in a few snipers to take out the Taliban?  No.  We bombed the **** out of every place the Taliban was in Afghanistan.  We turned that nation into rubble.   We turned Japan into a nuclear wasteland after we nuked it twice too. Was the US worried about only killing slant-eyed military?  F-NO!!!

You're starting to sound like Hanoi Jane. If you want to hate on the Jews, then hate on the Jews.  But, if you are trying to suggest a Bidenesque ***-assed limp-dick military response in the face of a declaration of war, then butch up, lop off your penis and fly your Gay Flag high and proud!!!
 
 

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm

Israel is telling the civilians to go South to a place that borders Egypt. Egypt told the refugees to stay on their own land. That's more land taken from the Palestinians. Well done Israel. You all are so Godly. 

I still can't understand why they don't use snipers and special troops to target Hamas. It may take longer, but the destruction would be exponentially less. 

I have an instinctive issue with your title of this thread maybe you like to clarify intellectually?

Aren't all people identifying as palistinian civilians to that ideology no matter what social role they perform as a society in humanity promising better tomorrows than genetics sustains population alive today?

Traditional behaviors is history of humans performing by ideology, not ancestral time displaced. there is a difference between self evident results and social identity defined by reasonable doubt that ends up classifying generation gaps by race, creed, color, national origin, gender bias, spiritual interpretation, political leaning, economic status, rank in chain of command between central global governance of economic trade, levels of governance from individual, individual family unit, ancestral lineage, ideologies.

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 2:12 pm

Israel is telling the civilians to go South to a place that borders Egypt. Egypt told the refugees to stay on their own land. That's more land taken from the Palestinians. Well done Israel. You all are so Godly. 

I still can't understand why they don't use snipers and special troops to target Hamas. It may take longer, but the destruction would be exponentially less.

IDF have large noses that prevents them from being an accurate shot due to interference with the scope and their aim 

Skans » 01 Dec 2023, 4:34 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 4:34 pm

Because, their country was attacked.  Why should Israel play stupid liberal patty-cake games with the enemy that attacked them?  They have every right to go into Gaza and destroy Hamas and its war machine.  If Hamas and the Palestinians built it under civilian structures and use their own people as shields, that's on them.

Under George Bush, did we send in a few snipers to take out the Taliban?  No.  We bombed the **** out of every place the Taliban was in Afghanistan.  We turned that nation into rubble.   We turned Japan into a nuclear wasteland after we nuked it twice too. Was the US worried about only killing slant-eyed military?  F-NO!!!

You're starting to sound like Hanoi Jane.  If you want to hate on the Jews, then hate on the Jews.  But, if you are trying to suggest a Bidenesque ***-assed limp-dick military response in the face of a declaration of war, then butch up, lop off your penis and fly your Gay Flag high and proud!!!

Hamas attacked Israel, not the Palestinian civilians. Therefore, Hamas should pay, not the Palestinian civilians. 

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm

Hamas attacked Israel, not the Palestinian civilians. Therefore, Hamas should pay, not the Palestinian civilians. 

Why do ancestries have to sacrifice their biological time so humanity can intellectually govern their time left adapting as displaced since each is conceived to replace previous ancestry that created their unique chromosome makeup.

DNA is used in rule of law to distinguish each human from every other in any generation gap added.

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm

Hamas attacked Israel, not the Palestinian civilians. Therefore, Hamas should pay, not the Palestinian civilians.

Think of it like abortion, Palestinians are the clump of cells that turn into Hamasholes if left alone.

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm

Hamas attacked Israel, not the Palestinian civilians. Therefore, Hamas should pay, not the Palestinian civilians.

They havent done any harm to Hamas....in fact its likely grown larger.
 

RebelGator » 01 Dec 2023, 5:44 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 5:44 pm

Think of it like abortion, Palestinians are the clump of cells that turn into Hamasholes if left alone.

I don't think so. I look at them as no different than you and I. There is a difference between the US government and the average American. In fact, a lot of foreigners, from what I have read, noticed that there is a huge disconnect between the average American and the American government. I believe it to be the same with Hamas and the civilians. 

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm

Hamas attacked Israel, not the Palestinian civilians. Therefore, Hamas should pay, not the Palestinian civilians.

Hamas = Palestinians.  They aren't Hungarians or Chinese, or even Canadians.
 

Skans » 04 Dec 2023, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2023, 8:30 am

Hamas = Palestinians.  They aren't Hungarians or Chinese, or even Canadians.

Not at all. Yes, the Palestinians hate Israel, but the data is mixed how much they support Hamas. I have seen data that shows they overwhelming support Hamas, but I have also seen data that shows only 13% support them. Until they get their numbers right, I don't pay attention to it. 

Vegas » 04 Dec 2023, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2023, 11:21 am

Not at all. Yes, the Palestinians hate Israel, but the data is mixed how much they support Hamas. I have seen data that shows they overwhelming support Hamas, but I have also seen data that shows only 13% support them. Until they get their numbers right, I don't pay attention to it.

Israel will be embarrassed in these actions.
 

Vegas » 01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2023, 5:37 pm

Hamas attacked Israel, not the Palestinian civilians. Therefore, Hamas should pay, not the Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians overwhelmingly voted Hamas into office, didn't they?  THAT was where their responsibility for their own deaths lie.  And it should be of no interest to anyone outside of Gaza that civilians must be protected from the war their government started, as you seem to feel.

What you're attempting to claim would be no different than saying that we're not responsible for paying higher prices for gas and food or our open border because those decisions were made by OUR government, despite the fact that most Americans DO NOT favor Biden's policies.

Too bad for those who voted against Hamas, they're as stuck with the results of the election just as we're stuck with the massive failures of Bidenomics! 
 

Zeets2 » 04 Dec 2023, 11:43 am » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2023, 11:43 am

The Palestinians overwhelmingly voted Hamas into office, didn't they?  THAT was where their responsibility for their own deaths lie.  And it should be of no interest to anyone outside of Gaza that civilians must be protected from the war their government started, as you seem to feel.

What you're attempting to claim would be no different than saying that we're not responsible for paying higher prices for gas and food or our open border because those decisions were made by OUR government, despite the fact that most Americans DO NOT favor Biden's policies.

Too bad for those who voted against Hamas, they're as stuck with the results of the election just as we're stuck with the massive failures of Bidenomics!

In 2006, they voted Hamas in. In 2007 Hamas cancelled all elections since. They haven't been able to vote for anyone for the past 17 years. 

Vegas » 04 Dec 2023, 5:05 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2023, 5:05 pm

In 2006, they voted Hamas in. In 2007 Hamas cancelled all elections since. They haven't been able to vote for anyone for the past 17 years. 

Damn, that timeline is equal to my starting Intellectual Armageddon and I wasn't paying attention to that issue in humanity on a global scale.

Vegas » 04 Dec 2023, 5:05 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2023, 5:05 pm

In 2006, they voted Hamas in. In 2007 Hamas cancelled all elections since. They haven't been able to vote for anyone for the past 17 years.

the average Palestinian overwhelmingly supports hamas. As they see it, their option is to die like men and with dignity, or die slowly getting duped into endless schemes that israel dreams up. This is a reasonable point of view. Israel (and the USA) has not shown that their word has any value or that it is possible to negotiate with them.

FOS » 04 Dec 2023, 6:13 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2023, 6:13 pm

the average Palestinian overwhelmingly supports hamas. As they see it, their option is to die like men and with dignity, or die slowly getting duped into endless schemes that israel dreams up. This is a reasonable point of view. Israel (and the USA) has not shown that their word has any value or that it is possible to negotiate with them.

I haven't missed you been gone for so long, now I miss you left as long as you did. Now which new poster that posts like you did isn't posting forward like you had before you left?

this isn't disagreeing about how Palestinians behave, but when all sides behave the same way, no ancestral lineage is going to get alone with any other in any society mankind mandates by laws ordering people to believe life is more than genetics eternally separating each lifetime present since conceived to replace previous generation gaps combined their chromosomes here now.