The "Lost Cause"

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4 Dec 2023 10:13 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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The "Lost Cause" is a term often associated with a historical narrative or ideology that emerged in the Southern United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This interpretation of the American Civil War suggests that the Confederate cause was just, heroic, and primarily about states' rights and preserving a southern way of life rather than the perpetuation of slavery.

Advocates of the Lost Cause ideology typically portray the Confederacy's leaders and soldiers as honorable and gallant, and the post-war Reconstruction period as a time of Southern victimization. They argue that the South was overmatched in resources and military might, framing their defeat as inevitable but not disgraceful. This narrative minimizes or even denies the central role of slavery in causing the Civil War and instead highlights other factors.

The Lost Cause narrative was propagated by various means, including through textbooks, monuments, speeches, and articles, serving to embed it into Southern culture and memory. It became part of the larger effort to reaffirm white supremacy in the South following the defeat of the Confederacy, the abolition of slavery, and during the re-establishment of racially discriminatory laws and social norms known as Jim Crow.

In modern times, the Lost Cause ideology is widely discredited among historians, as it is seen as a distortion of the historical record with the political goal of rehabilitating the image of the Confederacy and the antebellum South, often at the expense of African American history and the brutal realities of slavery.
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Where does the "Lost Cause" fall into contemporary American life? Is it still valid to remember the sacrifices of the South during the Civil War? Is it a bit of history that should be forgotten? @Sergei   should the problems of Communism be remembered by the Russian people?
 
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Monderegal » 04 Dec 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: The "Lost Cause" is a term often associated with a historical narrative or ideology that emerged in the Southern United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This interpretation of the American Civil War suggests that the Confederate cause was just, heroic, and primarily about states' rights and preserving a southern way of life rather than the perpetuation of slavery.

Advocates of the Lost Cause ideology typically portray the Confederacy's leaders and soldiers as honorable and gallant, and the post-war Reconstruction period as a time of Southern victimization. They argue that the South was overmatched in resources and military might, framing their defeat as inevitable but not disgraceful. This narrative minimizes or even denies the central role of slavery in causing the Civil War and instead highlights other factors.

The Lost Cause narrative was propagated by various means, including through textbooks, monuments, speeches, and articles, serving to embed it into Southern culture and memory. It became part of the larger effort to reaffirm white supremacy in the South following the defeat of the Confederacy, the abolition of slavery, and during the re-establishment of racially discriminatory laws and social norms known as Jim Crow.

In modern times, the Lost Cause ideology is widely discredited among historians, as it is seen as a distortion of the historical record with the political goal of rehabilitating the image of the Confederacy and the antebellum South, often at the expense of African American history and the brutal realities of slavery.
The War of Northern Aggression was completely unnecessary.  Mechanization and automation was just around the corner, and that would have made it impractical for Whites to own slaves.   Slave values were on the verge of going negative and they would have been released.  You don't have to believe me, it happened all around the world - and not because of war.  Slavery just wasn't economically feasible any longer.

Where the North messed up was not coming up with a plan on what to do with the freed slaves.  They should have been placed on boats and moved back to Africa....along with some Indians who could serve as "spirit guides" for them.
 
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Skans » 04 Dec 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: The War of Northern Aggression was completely unnecessary.  Mechanization and automation was just around the corner, and that would have made it impractical for Whites to own slaves.   Slave values were on the verge of going negative and they would have been released.  You don't have to believe me, it happened all around the world - and not because of war.  Slavery just wasn't economically feasible any longer.

Where the North messed up was not coming up with a plan on what to do with the freed slaves.  They should have been placed on boats and moved back to Africa....along with some Indians who could serve as "spirit guides" for them.

Well there was the state of Liberia that was supposed to be an African slaves that wanted to return to Africa after slavery ended. They even named the capital Monrovia after President Monroe. The nation still exists today. 
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Monderegal » 04 Dec 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: The "Lost Cause" is a term often associated with a historical narrative or ideology that emerged in the Southern United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This interpretation of the American Civil War suggests that the Confederate cause was just, heroic, and primarily about states' rights and preserving a southern way of life rather than the perpetuation of slavery.

Advocates of the Lost Cause ideology typically portray the Confederacy's leaders and soldiers as honorable and gallant, and the post-war Reconstruction period as a time of Southern victimization. They argue that the South was overmatched in resources and military might, framing their defeat as inevitable but not disgraceful. This narrative minimizes or even denies the central role of slavery in causing the Civil War and instead highlights other factors.

The Lost Cause narrative was propagated by various means, including through textbooks, monuments, speeches, and articles, serving to embed it into Southern culture and memory. It became part of the larger effort to reaffirm white supremacy in the South following the defeat of the Confederacy, the abolition of slavery, and during the re-establishment of racially discriminatory laws and social norms known as Jim Crow.

In modern times, the Lost Cause ideology is widely discredited among historians, as it is seen as a distortion of the historical record with the political goal of rehabilitating the image of the Confederacy and the antebellum South, often at the expense of African American history and the brutal realities of slavery.

it is 'discredited' by historians because it has to be. I am sure I dont have to tell you that communist historians in the USSR all magically agreed that the russian revolution was a good thing. Same concept here.
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FOS » 04 Dec 2023, 5:59 pm » wrote: it is 'discredited' by historians because it has to be. I am sure I dont have to tell you that communist historians in the USSR all magically agreed that the russian revolution was a good thing. Same concept here.

The sad thing was that was generated by AI.
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Monderegal » 04 Dec 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: The "Lost Cause" is a term often associated with a historical narrative or ideology that emerged in the Southern United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This interpretation of the American Civil War suggests that the Confederate cause was just, heroic, and primarily about states' rights and preserving a southern way of life rather than the perpetuation of slavery.

Advocates of the Lost Cause ideology typically portray the Confederacy's leaders and soldiers as honorable and gallant, and the post-war Reconstruction period as a time of Southern victimization. They argue that the South was overmatched in resources and military might, framing their defeat as inevitable but not disgraceful. This narrative minimizes or even denies the central role of slavery in causing the Civil War and instead highlights other factors.

The Lost Cause narrative was propagated by various means, including through textbooks, monuments, speeches, and articles, serving to embed it into Southern culture and memory. It became part of the larger effort to reaffirm white supremacy in the South following the defeat of the Confederacy, the abolition of slavery, and during the re-establishment of racially discriminatory laws and social norms known as Jim Crow.

In modern times, the Lost Cause ideology is widely discredited among historians, as it is seen as a distortion of the historical record with the political goal of rehabilitating the image of the Confederacy and the antebellum South, often at the expense of African American history and the brutal realities of slavery.
Damn the title sure triggered my instinctive brain now.

What is the Lost Cause humanity created since the dawn of civilization sustaining the Original Sin and Final Conflict traditionally added ancestrally forward each generation gap since?
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