just remember the US was the one country that blocked a cease fire

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By jerra b
12 Dec 2023 5:43 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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12 Dec 2023 5:43 pm
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just saying.
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12 Dec 2023 5:58 pm
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Hamas needs to be removed with as much consideration to civilian casualties as possible.  A cease fire does not serve those ends. 
 
 
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12 Dec 2023 6:04 pm
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Neo » 12 Dec 2023, 6:58 pm » wrote: Hamas needs to be removed with as much consideration to civilian casualties as possible.  A cease fire does not serve those ends.
There is not much of a chance that can be accomplished. Netanyahu built Hamas - but that does not mean he can destroy it. 

You DO understand that Netanyahu built that - yes?

If not please signify, and I will provide you with the proofs that it was Netanyahu's intelligence agencies and funding that put Hamas over the Palestinian people that he is now butchering in their name. 

But let's get back to your thesis - civilians NEED to keep dying, and it is JUSTIFED that they die, in order for Hamas to be eradicated.

Can you give us a number? Is there a particular NUMBER where you grow a conscience? Where you say, okay - they need to stop now? Let's just count toddlers. How many toddler dead is too many? Is ten thousand too many - or should civilians continue to be killed?
 
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12 Dec 2023 6:31 pm
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Neo » 12 Dec 2023, 6:58 pm » wrote: Hamas needs to be removed with as much consideration to civilian casualties as possible.  A cease fire does not serve those ends.

see biden's last statement.
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12 Dec 2023 6:36 pm
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Neo » 12 Dec 2023, 6:58 pm » wrote: Hamas needs to be removed with as much consideration to civilian casualties as possible.  A cease fire does not serve those ends.

https://youtu.be/CISotLMO5a8?si=jVXDGXtlTd-V34M4
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12 Dec 2023 6:39 pm
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Neo » 12 Dec 2023, 6:58 pm » wrote: Hamas needs to be removed with as much consideration to civilian casualties as possible.  A cease fire does not serve those ends.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... as-tunnels


President Joe Biden appeared to express some doubts about Israel's reported plan to flood Hamas's tunnel system in Gaza as part of the Israel Defense Forces' campaign against the terrorist group.Reports surfaced Tuesday that the Israeli government has started pumping seawater into the tunnel system, both to eliminate its usefulness to Hamas and potentially eliminate any additional targets still hiding below ground.LAGGING BIDEN LEANS ON POPULAR GOV. JOSH SHAPIRO FOR BOOST IN CRITICAL PENNSYLVANIABiden, speaking to reporters after bilateral meetings with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, appeared hesitant to fully support the action, as he had done with Israel's bombing campaigns in Gaza over the past two months."There are assertions being made that they're quite sure there are no hostages in any of these tunnels, but I don't know that for a fact," Biden said. "I do know that every civilian death is an absolute tragedy, and Israel has stated its intent, as I said, to match its words, its intent with actions. That's what I was talking about today."
 
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12 Dec 2023 6:41 pm
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Cannonpointer » 12 Dec 2023, 7:04 pm » wrote: There is not much of a chance that can be accomplished. Netanyahu built Hamas - but that does not mean he can destroy it. 

You DO understand that Netanyahu built that - yes?

If not please signify, and I will provide you with the proofs that it was Netanyahu's intelligence agencies and funding that put Hamas over the Palestinian people. 

But let's get back to your thesis - civilians NEED to keep dying, and it is JUSTIFED that they die, in order for Hamas to be eradicated.

Can you give us a number? Is there a particular NUMBER where you grow a conscience? Where you say, okay - they need to stop now? Let's just count toddlers. How many toddler dead is too many? Is ten thousand too many - or should civilians continue to be killed?

it looks like if they kill a hundred children and one terrorist it is okay.
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