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jerrab » 13 Dec 2023, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 6:29 pm

this is a very informative article, it won't copy though.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/bide ... -conflict/

Good article. 

PhiloBeddo » 13 Dec 2023, 1:31 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 1:31 pm

What did Israel do wrong, besides catching rockets.

Why should we keep answering your stupid question, just so you can ask it again, ya retard?
 

Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 1:54 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 1:54 pm

I don't buy into the whole "Chosen People" thing.  However, I tend to like Israel as a nation

You pay for their "kibbutzes" (communes).
You pay for their socialized healthcare (but not your own people's).
You pay for their socialized higher education - while opposing debt forgiveness for AMERICAN students.
You pay for them to murder and dispossess Palestinians.

I sure as **** HOPE you like them - ya got your face in their crotch, ya slackjawed *** dicker. . 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 13 Dec 2023, 10:02 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 10:02 pm

You pay for their "kibbutzes" (communes).
You pay for their socialized healthcare (but not your own people's).
You pay for their socialized higher education - while opposing debt forgiveness for AMERICAN students.
You pay for them to murder and dispossess Palestinians.

I sure as **** HOPE you like them - ya got your face in their crotch, ya slackjawed *** dicker. .

Poor Skaannny.....he hates Socialism

And LOVES Socialism.

A broken soul.
 

Vegas » 13 Dec 2023, 9:51 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 9:51 pm

Good article.

the date is  may 20,  2021. I wonder what the writer would say about the events these days.

things are much much worse and of course biden has much the blame.
 
 

DeezerShoove » 13 Dec 2023, 9:41 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 9:41 pm

Are you going to argue with a guy that believes in God?
Who are you to do that?

Why can't I believe what I believe without argument? What is the difference?

You can believe whatever you want.  But, there is one undeniable fact that remains to be discussed.  YOU have CHOSEN to post YOUR VIEWS on a NHB political forum.  What the F- did you expect???
 

God says he will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse it. It's not about heaven or hell. When progressives started promoting boycott/divest/sanction they started seeing more instances of gender confusion. What was once an exceedingly rare phenomenon became unfortunately common in progressive circles. Coincidence? I like my cock so I bless Israel.

jerrab » 14 Dec 2023, 12:18 am » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 12:18 am

the date is  may 20,  2021. I wonder what the writer would say about the events these days.

things are much much worse and of course biden has much the blame.

I believe, generally speaking, America is much to blame. The US has empowered Israel for decades to be the oppressors that they are. We not only provided them with arms, but we protected them from the law when they stole the Palestinian's land. 

Skans » 14 Dec 2023, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 8:45 am

You can believe whatever you want.  But, there is one undeniable fact that remains to be discussed.  YOU have CHOSEN to post YOUR VIEWS on a NHB political forum.  What the F- did you expect???

How about you? You **** on people, you get **** back.
No biggie.

DeezerShoove » 14 Dec 2023, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 9:21 am

How about you? You **** on people, you get **** back.
No biggie.

Yeah.  I sort of like rolling around like a pig-in-**** - I suppose that's why I'm still here.
 

Skans » 14 Dec 2023, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 9:35 am

Yeah.  I sort of like rolling around like a pig-in-**** - I suppose that's why I'm still here.

...I know what you mean.  

Vegas » 14 Dec 2023, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 9:20 am

I believe, generally speaking, America is much to blame. The US has empowered Israel for decades to be the oppressors that they are. We not only provided them with arms, but we protected them from the law when they stole the Palestinian's land.

biden shielded israel from the UN and let israel evict all it wanted. 

Vegas » 14 Dec 2023, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 9:20 am

I believe, generally speaking, America is much to blame. The US has empowered Israel for decades to be the oppressors that they are. We not only provided them with arms, but we protected them from the law when they stole the Palestinian's land.

biden took a hostile situation and set in on fire.

Actually I am proud to be against rape and genocide.
I find it odd that u do not

Vegas » 14 Dec 2023, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 9:20 am

I believe, generally speaking, America is much to blame. The US has empowered Israel for decades to be the oppressors that they are. We not only provided them with arms, but we protected them from the law when they stole the Palestinian's land.

yes, america has allowed israel to treat gaza really bad. 

jerrab » 13 Dec 2023, 6:27 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 6:27 pm

israel bent over backwards to make sure palastine  never succeeded. israel gets 3 billion dollars a year from the US and keeps gaza an open air prison and evicted people from their homes.

I remember when the Republicans had a stiffy for bibi. 

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm

I remember when the Republicans had a stiffy for bibi.

george h bush was more fair to palestian.

jerrab » 15 Dec 2023, 8:49 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:49 pm

george h bush was more fair to palestian.

According to Clinton he almost had a two state solution but Isreal wouldn't play ball. 

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 8:54 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:54 pm

According to Clinton he almost had a two state solution but Isreal wouldn't play ball.

What was Clinton's Israel model?
The Clinton Parameters proposed a Palestinian state comprising between 94–96% of the West Bank and the entire Gaza Strip. Israel would annex the remaining land, which would include Israeli settlements, containing 80% of the settler population, mainly in major

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm

I remember when the Republicans had a stiffy for bibi.

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May 21, 2021 —


https://cssh.northeastern.edu/george-h- ... gressives/

Even as Thursday’s cease-fire between Israel and the Palestinian militia Hamas brings an end to the latest round of Israeli-Palestinian bloodshed, there are signs that the recent violence could have a long-term effect on U.S. policy in the region.Namely, the high civilian death toll of the Israeli bombing campaign ― conducted in response to a barrage of rockets fired indiscriminately into Israel ― has breathed new life into calls for a reassessment of the United States’ financial and diplomatic support for Israel. Proponents of imposing tougher conditions on the United States’ annual $3.8 billion military aid package to Israel are now concentrated mostly on the political left. But the most recent U.S. president to actually use the threat of withheld aid to change Israeli policy was Republican George H.W. Bush.Although the circumstances today are not identical, Bush’s showdown with Israel in 1991 over the terms of U.S. loan guarantees serves as an illustration of what a more evenhanded U.S. approach to the conflict could look like. Bush withheld the loan guarantees until he was satisfied that the money borrowed with U.S. assistance would not go toward Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories.“Bush established consequences for bad behavior, and he got results,” said James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute. “It can happen again.” At the very least, progressives see Bush’s actions as a useful reminder that renegotiating U.S. aid to Israel is not an extreme, left-wing idea