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Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm

I remember when the Republicans had a stiffy for bibi.

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-lonel ... ationship/

gw Bush, who was president from 1989 to 1993, forever changed American politics when he exerted his power to curtail the settlement enterprise and faced a vehement backlash.He made clear the cost of an American president waging a political fight against the vast coalition of pro-Israel lobbying groups. In doing so, he exposed the limits of what the world’s most powerful man can do when trying to solve the world’s seemingly most intractable conflict.One of the most controversial moments of his single-term presidency was when Bush delayed Israel loan guarantees until it halted its settlement building in the West Bank and Gaza and entered a peace conference with the Palestinians, what would later became known as the Madrid Peace Conference.
 

jerrab » 15 Dec 2023, 9:24 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 9:24 pm

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-lonel ... ationship/

gw Bush, who was president from 1989 to 1993, forever changed American politics when he exerted his power to curtail the settlement enterprise and faced a vehement backlash.He made clear the cost of an American president waging a political fight against the vast coalition of pro-Israel lobbying groups. In doing so, he exposed the limits of what the world’s most powerful man can do when trying to solve the world’s seemingly most intractable conflict.One of the most controversial moments of his single-term presidency was when Bush delayed Israel loan guarantees until it halted its settlement building in the West Bank and Gaza and entered a peace conference with the Palestinians, what would later became known as the Madrid Peace Conference.

I'm talking later on when they had him address congress under W. 

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm

I remember when the Republicans had a stiffy for bibi.

especially trump-----

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https://il.usembassy.gov/statement-by-p ... jerusalem/

-trump's speech --..Presidents issued these waivers under the belief that delaying the recognition of Jerusalem would advance the cause of peace. Some say they lacked courage, but they made their best judgments based on facts as they understood them at the time. Nevertheless, the record is in. After more than two decades of waivers, we are no closer to a lasting peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. It would be folly to assume that repeating the exact same formula would now produce a different or better result.Therefore, I have determined that it is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.---this is exactly what the muslims did not want---While previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver. Today, I am delivering.I’ve judged this course of action to be in the best interests of the United States of America and the pursuit of peace between Israel and the Palestinians. This is a long-overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement.-------- a complete lie he told to the ameican people----------Israel is a sovereign nation with the right like every other sovereign nation to determine its own capital. Acknowledging this as a fact is a necessary condition for achieving peace.
 

jerrab » 15 Dec 2023, 10:16 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 10:16 pm

especially trump-----

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https://il.usembassy.gov/statement-by-p ... jerusalem/

-trump's speech --..Presidents issued these waivers under the belief that delaying the recognition of Jerusalem would advance the cause of peace. Some say they lacked courage, but they made their best judgments based on facts as they understood them at the time. Nevertheless, the record is in. After more than two decades of waivers, we are no closer to a lasting peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. It would be folly to assume that repeating the exact same formula would now produce a different or better result.Therefore, I have determined that it is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.---this is exactly what the muslims did not want---While previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver. Today, I am delivering.I’ve judged this course of action to be in the best interests of the United States of America and the pursuit of peace between Israel and the Palestinians. This is a long-overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement.-------- a complete lie he told to the ameican people----------Israel is a sovereign nation with the right like every other sovereign nation to determine its own capital. Acknowledging this as a fact is a necessary condition for achieving peace.

Well.i guess invading Isreal didn't help with this whole peace thing. Just guessing. 

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm

I remember when the Republicans had a stiffy for bibi.

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https://carnegieendowment.org/2020/11/1 ... -pub-83221

The president included Israel as a stop on his first trip abroad. Trump was the first sitting president to pray at the Western Wall. Last year, in the run-up to Israel’s elections, Trump gratuitously declared recognition of Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights. He announced a one-sided peace proposal opening the door to Israel’s annexation of 30 percent of the West Bank.

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he chances of a two-state solution were diminishing even before Trump’s presidency. But in giving tacit approval for continued Israeli settlement activity and conceding greater West Bank control to Israel before negotiations even began on his own proposal, he has made prospects for peace an even longer shot. Along with a divided and dysfunctional Palestinian national movement, Trump has done nothing to help resolve the Israel-Palestinian conflict that, if left unsolved over time, will erode Israel’s democratic and Jewish character.
 
 
 

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 10:19 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 10:19 pm

Well.i guess invading Isreal didn't help with this whole peace thing. Just guessing.

biden and israel

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/12/bi ... jerusalem/

The Biden administration has stonewalled efforts in the U.N. Security Council to call for a halt to the escalating violence between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants, leaving the United States

 
 

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 10:19 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 10:19 pm

Well.i guess invading Isreal didn't help with this whole peace thing. Just guessing.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/bide ... -conflict/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-pendin ... war-crime/
 
biden did not do anyting to stop this, gw bush held off funds but biden never did. he allowed things to turn into a tinderbox. he is the most pro israel president that ever was.

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 10:19 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 10:19 pm

Well.i guess invading Isreal didn't help with this whole peace thing. Just guessing.

Well I guess Murka invading the middle east
didnt help with this whole peace thing....Just guessing
 

Sumela » 15 Dec 2023, 10:40 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 10:40 pm

Well I guess Murka invading the middle east
didnt help with this whole peace thing....Just guessing

Agreed. The MIC is an unrelenting bloodthirsty monster.

Tempest62 » 15 Dec 2023, 10:43 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 10:43 pm

Agreed. The MIC is an unrelenting bloodthirsty monster.

Agreed sir.  Its called EMPIRE.  Empire is a Vampire.
 

Bidencrimefamily » 15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm

I remember when the Republicans had a stiffy for bibi.

bibi is the worst, he loaded the courts so they could claim what ever property they want and evict hundreds and biden looked the other way.

A "two state solution" is and always has been a bad idea. It's time to let Palestinians get used to the idea. If Israel wants to let Palestinians live within their borders, it's their business. **** the Palestinians!

RebelGator » 13 Dec 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 1:27 pm

I'd like to vote......can you add a "white like me" option....thanks.

LOL

Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 5:19 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 5:19 pm

You don't know that.  For all you know, we all might be serving time in hell right now.  Think about it - if the Devil wanted to torture you for all eternity, might he force you to communicate only with Origami man - Nostradamus' omh?  And, Murdock.
 
 

Genetics works naturally evolving as displaced in time specifically occupying space now since conceived to decomposed. That includes the time between womb to tomb proportionately living now.

Add to that thermodynamic principles about motion and forms never same results twice regardless molecular or chromosome makeup. Time doesn't move but things evolving measure time comparing specific cycles against each other.

Now it is time to define "Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome next." is that insanity or punishment in eternal hell? mankind governs by power of suggesting life isn't self evidently evolving in the moment equally separated by 5 generation gaps one can change into after birth.

Conceived, zygote, embryo, fetus, infant, toddler, adolescent, puberty, teen, adult, 1 of 2 parents, 1 of 4 grandparents, 1 of 8 great grandparents all works in the series of parents delivering children changing population left evolving here now in plain sight. This covers male, female, race, creed, color, national origin, ideology, genetics, specificity of how, why, what, where, when, which, one, hope, faith, charity, power, wealth, fame, mayhem, madness, misery put upon anyone not complying with people denying now is eternity.