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Just a thought. I think most Americans would think twice about voting for Trump. At least some voters, some are true believers.

Monderegal » 16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am

Just a thought. I think most Americans would think twice about voting for Trump. At least some voters, some are true believers.

Trump was far more anti-war than the senile pedo. Trump didn't start any wars. Biden is helping Ukraine fight against a country that has the strongest military in the world. Not a great idea. 

Monderegal » 16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am

Just a thought. I think most Americans would think twice about voting for Trump. At least some voters, some are true believers.

If Biden reinstated the draft that would make people think twice about voting for Trump, seriously????

 


 
 

Monderegal » 16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am

Just a thought. I think most Americans would think twice about voting for Trump. At least some voters, some are true believers.

??? your logic fails me.

Trump started no wars, no one was being killed in Afghanistan. 
On the campaign trail biden said Trump would get us into a war in the Middle East. 

under biden we have wars in Ukraine, Gaza, and the Chinese are close to invading Free China.. 

Most Americans are already sorry that the voted for Biden and ARE thinking twice about doing it again ... lol 

draft the Tranny types.

Monderegal » 16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am

Just a thought. I think most Americans would think twice about voting for Trump. At least some voters, some are true believers.

Alot of people would leave. Especially the rich trust fund type. They would also have bone spurs. 

Monderegal » 16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am

Just a thought. I think most Americans would think twice about voting for Trump. At least some voters, some are true believers.

I think regardles of who is president it will be like the 60s. 

            Could be a silver lining if it's played smart.... Make it legal to Draft illegals and eliminate College Deferments ----that will slow the flood of the incoming at our SW border, while at the same time sparking the exodus of useless Campus idiots North to Canada... 

Trust fund types will all of the sudden come down with injuries that they never had. And the poor will fight the wars as usual.

Monderegal » 16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 11:04 am

Just a thought. I think most Americans would think twice about voting for Trump. At least some voters, some are true believers.

remember when everyone was saying that tRump would go crazy and start wars all over the world?

and get us into WWlll ?

he did some stupid ****

but nothing on the level of biden 

not even close 

Mrkelly » 16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm

remember when everyone was saying that tRump would go crazy and start wars all over the world?

and get us into WWlll ?

he did some stupid ****

but nothing on the level of biden 

not even close

Well the right wing would be pitching if Biden had done nothing in Ukraine. Before Biden showed support my right wing friends were saying watch Biden will do nothing and let Russia take over Ukraine. 

Just like the right wing was attacking obama for not giving ukraine lethal weapons and when trump gave lethal aid the left atacked trump for giving ukraine lethal aid just like biden has. Its politics. 
 

Mrkelly » 16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm

remember when everyone was saying that tRump would go crazy and start wars all over the world?

and get us into WWlll ?

he did some stupid ****

but nothing on the level of biden 

not even close

Trump was bragging that he gave Ukraine lethal aid before the attack. Let me find the clip if I can find it. 

Bidencrimefamily » 16 Dec 2023, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 1:28 pm

Trust fund types will all of the sudden come down with injuries that they never had. And the poor will fight the wars as usual.

After 5 deferments they will have bone spurs or childhood asthma.  Although they played HS and College sports.

Mrkelly » 16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm

remember when everyone was saying that tRump would go crazy and start wars all over the world?

and get us into WWlll ?

he did some stupid ****

but nothing on the level of biden 

not even close

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/20 ... o-ukraine/

 
 

Mrkelly » 16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm

remember when everyone was saying that tRump would go crazy and start wars all over the world?

and get us into WWlll ?

he did some stupid ****

but nothing on the level of biden 

not even close

Fair enough.

Bidencrimefamily » 16 Dec 2023, 1:51 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 1:51 pm

Trump was bragging that he gave Ukraine lethal aid before the attack. Let me find the clip if I can find it.

tRump may very well have gone down the rabbit hole of Ukraine 

but tRump was all about tRump

he didn’t realize how much any hope of  re-election would hang on how much he funded the MIC

He knows now

when I heard him say “they wanted to go into Venezuela, but I got bored with it”

I told my wife … “he is gone”

again … he did some stupid **** in Venezuela 

but he didn’t pull the trigger

biden hasn’t yet either 

but it would surprise no one 

tRump is an unknown 

biden is a well known 

that’s my point to the OP
 

Mrkelly » 16 Dec 2023, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 2:34 pm

tRump may very well have gone down the rabbit hole of Ukraine 

but tRump was all about tRump

he didn’t realize how much any hope of  re-election would hang on how much he funded the MIC

He knows now

when I heard him say “they wanted to go into Venezuela, but I got bored with it”

I told my wife … “he is gone”

again … he did some stupid **** in Venezuela 

but he didn’t pull the trigger

biden hasn’t yet either 

but it would surprise no one 

tRump is an unknown 

biden is a well known 

that’s my point to the OP

The Republicans were attack Obama for not doing enough. 

The Republicans don't stand on principle they put their finger up in the air and whatever the democrat suppirt at the time the republicans will attack. 

Here is Matt gaetz attack Obama for a freeze of lethal aid to ukraine. 
 
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By Amy ShermanOctober 25, 2019Matt Gaetz misleads about Obama's record on Ukraine military aidU.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., has become one of President Donald Trump’s key attack dogs as he pushes back against the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry through protests, regular Fox News appearances and on Twitter.As part of his defense of Trump, the second-term north Florida congressman has pointed the finger at former President Barack Obama’s actions related to Ukraine. "Barack Obama put a permanent stop on this military aid to the Ukraine - he never allowed it to go," Gaetz tweeted Oct. 21. "You’re telling me Democrats are trying to impeach President Trump for delivering aid that Obama didn’t deliver? That’s ludicrous." Gaetz made similar remarks in a Fox News interview with Jeanine Pirro.

Bidencrimefamily » 16 Dec 2023, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 2:38 pm

The Republicans were attack Obama for not doing enough. 

The Republicans don't stand on principle they put their finger up in the air and whatever the democrat suppirt at the time the republicans will attack. 

Here is Matt gaetz attack Obama for a freeze of lethal aid to ukraine. 
 
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By Amy ShermanOctober 25, 2019Matt Gaetz misleads about Obama's record on Ukraine military aidU.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., has become one of President Donald Trump’s key attack dogs as he pushes back against the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry through protests, regular Fox News appearances and on Twitter.As part of his defense of Trump, the second-term north Florida congressman has pointed the finger at former President Barack Obama’s actions related to Ukraine. "Barack Obama put a permanent stop on this military aid to the Ukraine - he never allowed it to go," Gaetz tweeted Oct. 21. "You’re telling me Democrats are trying to impeach President Trump for delivering aid that Obama didn’t deliver? That’s ludicrous." Gaetz made similar remarks in a Fox News interview with Jeanine Pirro.

like you said … it’s all politics 

the left used to be anti war when the republicans were all for it

now the right is anti war, now that the democrats are for it

the pirates own the flag

and we take turns making sure that never changes 

not just war … ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING 

this is us in the US

https://youtu.be/xHash5takWU?si=l3UT5FNugD4QkbkT
 

Mrkelly » 16 Dec 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Dec 2023, 2:51 pm

like you said … it’s all politics 

the left used to be anti war when the republicans were all for it

now the right is anti war, now that the democrats are for it

the pirates own the flag

and we take turns making sure that never changes 

not just war … ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING 

this is us in the US

https://youtu.be/xHash5takWU?si=l3UT5FNugD4QkbkT

Here is Bob gates telling Obama to tone down his attacks on the Ukraine stand against putin and Russian aggression on Ukraine. 

Its funny how when republicans win on a point and democrats switch their support then the republicans all of the sudden forget everything they said opposite just a few years earlier. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bob-gates- ... e-it-down/
 

Here we have desantis attack obama for not giving enough support for Ukraine in 2016 and saying not supporting Ukraine against Russia is dangerous and Obama needs to do more.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/politics ... index.html