Liberal Forum

Jimmy Dore summarizes the great lie that has kept this war afloat.

The West have fooled the public to believe Russia are the aggressors, when it was the US CIA/State Dept who funded literal nazi militant groups and overthrew a sovereign nation, then took control of it via proxy. AND funded an created a massive army, with Western equipment, right on Russia’s border. AND they were slaughtering ethnic Russians in the Donbas. AND they were conducting nefarious ILLEGAL biological research and pathogen production. Putin did what he had to do, and rightfully so. The majority of Americans STILL do not know this, which allows the US and Ukraine to maintain their status as the victims, when they are the ones who brought war to Russia’s doorstep. The sooner the public realize this reality, the sooner we can clean up the mess.

https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2023 ... qus_thread
 
 

Majik » 17 Dec 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑

17 Dec 2023, 9:33 am

Jimmy Dore summarizes the great lie that has kept this war afloat.

The West have fooled the public to believe Russia are the aggressors, when it was the US CIA/State Dept who funded literal nazi militant groups and overthrew a sovereign nation, then took control of it via proxy. AND funded an created a massive army, with Western equipment, right on Russia’s border. AND they were slaughtering ethnic Russians in the Donbas. AND they were conducting nefarious ILLEGAL biological research and pathogen production. Putin did what he had to do, and rightfully so. The majority of Americans STILL do not know this, which allows the US and Ukraine to maintain their status as the victims, when they are the ones who brought war to Russia’s doorstep. The sooner the public realize this reality, the sooner we can clean up the mess.

https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2023 ... qus_thread

  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
.         
.  Brilliant!
 

I agree with the above. And wonderfully our sick maneuver is coming to an end.

Tempest62 » 17 Dec 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

17 Dec 2023, 9:39 am

I agree with the above. And wonderfully our sick maneuver is coming to an end.

I wish that were true .....
but The deepstate is so heavily embedded and invested in the Ukraine now along with their European counterparts that the Ukraine will never again be a free sovereign state even if a peace agreement is ever reached.
 

Majik » 17 Dec 2023, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

17 Dec 2023, 10:22 am

I wish that were true .....
but The deepstate is so heavily embedded and invested in the Ukraine now along with their European counterparts that the Ukraine will never again be a free sovereign state even if a peace agreement is ever reached.

I should have mentioned the kinetic war coming to an end. Yes I fear that you are quite correct, sir.
 

Majik » 17 Dec 2023, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

17 Dec 2023, 10:22 am

I wish that were true .....
but The deepstate is so heavily embedded and invested in the Ukraine now along with their European counterparts that the Ukraine will never again be a free sovereign state even if a peace agreement is ever reached.

Some of the best farmland in Russia is in Ukraine.   

Ukrainian soldiers ordered into ‘suicide missions’ – NYT

Waves of Kiev’s troops have reportedly been cut down in “futile” attempts to cross the Dnieper River in Kherson

Ukrainian marines are reportedly frustrated over the orders they are being given to launch wave after wave of suicidal attacks across the Dnieper River in southern Kherson Region, resulting in heavy casualties that belie the claims made by government officials.

Conditions are so difficult – and so contrary to the optimistic statements made by President Vladimir Zelensky and other Ukrainian leaders – that half a dozen of the men involved in the fighting along the Dnieper River agreed to tell their stories to the New York Times. “It’s not even a fight for survival,” one of the soldiers said in an article published on Saturday. “It’s a suicide mission.”

https://www.rt.com/news/589190-ukraine- ... e-mission/

Zelensky's US/NATO backed dictatorship is now in Jeapardy of a full scale revolt .....by Ukrainians.