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A COLLABORATION OF U.S. AND ISRAEL FINANCIAL INTEREST IN OIL AND GAS AND ITS TRANSPORT,
WHILE CREATING GENOCIDE TO ACCOMPLISH ITS GOAL.


An alternative to the Suez Canal is central to Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians – Middle East Monitor




US Considered Blasting Alternate Suez Canal With Nuclear Bombs in '60s (businessinsider.com)

Is there an alternative Israeli plan to the Suez Canal? (trtworld.com)

 

 

righteous » 03 Jan 2024, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 6:10 pm

A COLLABORATION OF U.S. AND ISRAEL FINANCIAL INTEREST IN OIL AND GAS AND ITS TRANSPORT,
WHILE CREATING GENOCIDE TO ACCOMPLISH ITS GOAL.

An alternative to the Suez Canal is central to Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians – Middle East Monitor

US Considered Blasting Alternate Suez Canal With Nuclear Bombs in '60s (businessinsider.com)

Is there an alternative Israeli plan to the Suez Canal? (trtworld.com)

The West would easily murder 50,000 kids for this canal.

Its called EMPIRE aka IMPERIALISM
 

Sumela » 03 Jan 2024, 9:59 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 9:59 pm

The West would easily murder 50,000 kids for this canal.

Its called EMPIRE aka IMPERIALISM

ALL TO RIVAL EGYPT AND THE SUEZ CANAL AND CREATE MORE ISRAELI/U.S. WEALTH WHILE TAKING OVER A COUNTRY AND MURDERING ITS CIVILIANS 
 

righteous » 03 Jan 2024, 10:09 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 10:09 pm

ALL TO RIVAL EGYPT AND THE SUEZ CANAL AND CREATE MORE ISRAELI/U.S. WEALTH WHILE TAKING OVER A COUNTRY AND MURDERING ITS CIVILIANS

The Pissrael canal is a pipedream.  Another West money pit. 

It will take 20 years
 

Sumela » 03 Jan 2024, 10:17 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 10:17 pm

The Pissrael canal is a pipedream.  Another West money pit. 

It will take 20 years

THE IDEA OF USING SOME 500 NUCLEAR BOMBS TO DREDGE A CANAL 
NUCLEAR FALLOUT?
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR NEIGHBORING JORDAN, BEIRUT, DAMASCUS
SOUNDS LIKE A WRECKLESS PLAN.    

The laboratory noted that there were 130 miles of "virtually unpopulated desert wasteland, and are thus amenable to nuclear excavation methods." 

The memo came as the US Atomic Energy Commission was investigating using "peaceful nuclear explosions" to dig out useful infrastructure, Forbes reported in 2018. There were also plans to use this method to dig out a canal in Central America, Forbes reported.

righteous » 03 Jan 2024, 10:28 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 10:28 pm

THE IDEA OF USING SOME 500 NUCLEAR BOMBS TO DREDGE A CANAL 
NUCLEAR FALLOUT?
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR NEIGHBORING JORDAN, BEIRUT, DAMASCUS
SOUNDS LIKE A WRECKLESS PLAN.    

The laboratory noted that there were 130 miles of "virtually unpopulated desert wasteland, and are thus amenable to nuclear excavation methods." 

The memo came as the US Atomic Energy Commission was investigating using "peaceful nuclear explosions" to dig out useful infrastructure, Forbes reported in 2018. There were also plans to use this method to dig out a canal in Central America, Forbes reported.

WTF???.    

Im sorry, as I know I have posted this 100s of times...

""'When empires begin to crumble, they go insane"""
-----Chris Hedges

 
 

Sumela » 03 Jan 2024, 9:59 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 9:59 pm

The West would easily murder 50,000 kids for this canal.

Its called EMPIRE aka IMPERIALISM

That's some bogus propaganda there, boy.  I read one of your links.  So, what you are claiming is that Israel wants to create a canal running from Gaza to the Red Sea?  This is the absolute widest point of all of Israel.  Even if it could be done engineering-wise, which I doubt, it would be too shallow, too long and too vulnerable to permit any sizeable cargo ships to safely traverse it.

Furthermore, it would run right through Israel's biggest tourist money-maker Eilat.  So, the Jews are going to destroy their biggest money-maker city to build a canal for pleasure boats to traverse? 

All it would take is one boat loaded up with a few kegs of conventional gun powder to block such a canal indefinitely - only a complete ******* would invest money in building such a thing.  Not to mention, a canal at Israel's southern border would be a HUGE security risk - allow all of Iran's secret missile boats to cruise down the Israel-Canal and blow the **** out of Israel. 

But, here's the "cherry on the cake" - ISRAEL ALREADY OWNED ALL OF THE SUEZ CANAL!!!  They gave it back to Egypt voluntarily. Apparently, they didn't seen any value in owning that one, the only one that makes any sense.

There's propaganda.  And, then there's freaking stupid "short-bus" propaganda.  Yours is the later variety.    
 
 
 

Skans » 04 Jan 2024, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2024, 10:26 am

That's some bogus propaganda there, boy.  I read one of your links.  So, what you are claiming is that Israel wants to create a canal running from Gaza to the Red Sea?  This is the absolute widest point of all of Israel.  Even if it could be done engineering-wise, which I doubt, it would be too shallow, too long and too vulnerable to permit any sizeable cargo ships to safely traverse it.

Furthermore, it would run right through Israel's biggest tourist money-maker Eilat.  So, the Jews are going to destroy their biggest money-maker city to build a canal for pleasure boats to traverse? 

All it would take is one boat loaded up with a few kegs of conventional gun powder to block such a canal indefinitely - only a complete ******* would invest money in building such a thing.  Not to mention, a canal at Israel's southern border would be a HUGE security risk - allow all of Iran's secret missile boats to cruise down the Israel-Canal and blow the **** out of Israel. 

But, here's the "cherry on the cake" - ISRAEL ALREADY OWNED ALL OF THE SUEZ CANAL!!!  They gave it back to Egypt voluntarily. Apparently, they didn't seen any value in owning that one, the only one that makes any sense.

There's propaganda.  And, then there's freaking stupid "short-bus" propaganda.  Yours is the later variety.  

The OP was by RIGHTEOUS  - not me.
There are DOZENS of articles about this canal online.  
Seems a reasonable post for discussion based on the 
current insanity of the West.  Right?  I mean its the WEST
that sews cocks on little girls. Right?


 

Sumela » 04 Jan 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2024, 11:10 am

The OP was by RIGHTEOUS  - not me.
There are DOZENS of articles about this canal online.  
Seems a reasonable post for discussion based on the 
current insanity of the West.  Right?  I mean its the WEST
that sews cocks on little girls. Right?

Not really.  If Israel wanted to build a canal (engineering nightmare and ****-stupid idea), they could have done any one of the following:

• Keep the suez canal - they took it from Egypt in one of their wars.
• Keep part of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula just south of Gaza as a connection point.
• Kept control of Gaza and started this long ago before handing over complete control of Gaza to the Palestinians.

The idea of Israel allowing Hamas to attack the **** out of its citizens, just so that it can retaliate and take Gaza to build an impossible canal for Houthies to launch missiles from, is the dumbest F-ing thing I've read in all of 2023 and 2024.
 
 

Skans » 04 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm

Not really.  If Israel wanted to build a canal (engineering nightmare and ****-stupid idea), they could have done any one of the following:

• Keep the suez canal - they took it from Egypt in one of their wars.
• Keep part of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula just south of Gaza as a connection point.
• Kept control of Gaza and started this long ago before handing over complete control of Gaza to the Palestinians.

The idea of Israel allowing Hamas to attack the **** out of its citizens, just so that it can retaliate and take Gaza to build an impossible canal for Houthies to launch missiles from, is the dumbest F-ing thing I've read in all of 2023 and 2024.

Then tell Pissrael to stop talking about the canal.
 

Skans » 04 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm

Not really.  If Israel wanted to build a canal (engineering nightmare and ****-stupid idea), they could have done any one of the following:

• Keep the suez canal - they took it from Egypt in one of their wars.
• Keep part of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula just south of Gaza as a connection point.
• Kept control of Gaza and started this long ago before handing over complete control of Gaza to the Palestinians.

The idea of Israel allowing Hamas to attack the **** out of its citizens, just so that it can retaliate and take Gaza to build an impossible canal for Houthies to launch missiles from, is the dumbest F-ing thing I've read in all of 2023 and 2024.

THE SCA CONTROLS THE CANAL OWNED BY EGYPT. ISRAEL OWNS ****.
GAZA HAS ALWAYS BEEN PALESTINE LAND. KHAZARIAN JEWS AIDED BY BRITAIN INVADED THE LAND.

ISRAEL HAS BEEN PLANNING THIS SINCE THE 60'S. MORE RECENTLY IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE ABRAHAMIC ACCORDS WITH THE WEST PUSHING ITS CONSTRUCTION.

WESTERN COUNTRIES ARE SCARED **** THAT BRICS WILL CONTROL WORLD TRADE AFTER EGYPT JOINS. APART FROM RUSSIA, EGYPT ALSO HAS STRONG TIES WITH CHINA.THIS WORRIES THEM BECAUSE OF THE DE-DOLLARIZATION AND POTENTIAL RIVAL OF THE WORLD BANK. 

THERE WAS NO OTHER REASON TO ANNIHILATE THE POPULATION THAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. ARE YOU THAT NAIVE, SCANSY? GAZA WAS THE LAST GEOGRAPHICAL OBSTACLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION. THE ENORMOUS SWATH OF LAND IN THE NEGEV DESERT IS LARGE ENOUGH, DEEP ENOUGH. THIS PROJECT STRETCHES FROM THE GULF OF AQABA CLOSE TO THE ISRAELI JORDANIAN BORDER AND STRETCHES THROUGH THE ARABAH VALLEY LOCATED BETWEEN THE NEGEV MOUNTAINSAND THE JORDANIAN HIGHLANDS. 
 
THERE WILL BE MUCH RESISTANCE FROM THE ARAB WORLD AND MAY NEVER GET OFF THE GROUND. 
 
 

righteous » 04 Jan 2024, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2024, 8:09 pm

THE SCA CONTROLS THE CANAL OWNED BY EGYPT. ISRAEL OWNS ****.
GAZA HAS ALWAYS BEEN PALESTINE LAND. KHAZARIAN JEWS AIDED BY BRITAIN INVADED THE LAND.

ISRAEL HAS BEEN PLANNING THIS SINCE THE 60'S. MORE RECENTLY IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE ABRAHAMIC ACCORDS WITH THE WEST PUSHING ITS CONSTRUCTION.

WESTERN COUNTRIES ARE SCARED **** THAT BRICS WILL CONTROL WORLD TRADE AFTER EGYPT JOINS. APART FROM RUSSIA, EGYPT ALSO HAS STRONG TIES WITH CHINA.THIS WORRIES THEM BECAUSE OF THE DE-DOLLARIZATION AND POTENTIAL RIVAL OF THE WORLD BANK. 

THERE WAS NO OTHER REASON TO ANNIHILATE THE POPULATION THAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. ARE YOU THAT NAIVE, SCANSY? GAZA WAS THE LAST GEOGRAPHICAL OBSTACLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION. THE ENORMOUS SWATH OF LAND IN THE NEGEV DESERT IS LARGE ENOUGH, DEEP ENOUGH. THIS PROJECT STRETCHES FROM THE GULF OF AQABA CLOSE TO THE ISRAELI JORDANIAN BORDER AND STRETCHES THROUGH THE ARABAH VALLEY LOCATED BETWEEN THE NEGEV MOUNTAINSAND THE JORDANIAN HIGHLANDS. 
 
THERE WILL BE MUCH RESISTANCE FROM THE ARAB WORLD AND MAY NEVER GET OFF THE GROUND.

The SCA is Egypt! 

Israel owned the Sinai Peninsula and controlled the Suez canal twice:  the first occupation lasted from October 1956 to March 1957, and the second occupation lasted from June 1967 to April 1982.  If the Jews wanted a canal, they could have just kept the Suez they ripped from Egyptian hands.

Building a canal from Gaza to the Red Sea would be an engineering fiasco. It would become impassable in short order due to its ridiculous would-be length, and would weaken Israel by having its southern border completely exposed. No one would be so stupid to engage in such an endeavor.  Especially in this region and were the Suez canal already exists. You have no ability to critically analyze such a claim.  All you do is repeat dumb propaganda. 
 

Skans » 05 Jan 2024, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 8:51 am

The SCA is Egypt! 

Israel owned the Sinai Peninsula and controlled the Suez canal twice:  the first occupation lasted from October 1956 to March 1957, and the second occupation lasted from June 1967 to April 1982.  If the Jews wanted a canal, they could have just kept the Suez they ripped from Egyptian hands.

Building a canal from Gaza to the Red Sea would be an engineering fiasco. It would become impassable in short order due to its ridiculous would-be length, and would weaken Israel by having its southern border completely exposed. No one would be so stupid to engage in such an endeavor.  Especially in this region and were the Suez canal already exists. You have no ability to critically analyze such a claim.  All you do is repeat dumb propaganda.

YOU READ MY POST!  YES, THE SCA IS EGYPT. VERY GOOD SCANSY.

ISRAEL NEVER OWNED ****. 

EGYPT WAS RULED BY BRITAIN AND FRANCE AT THE TIME OF ITS CONSTRUCTION, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL REBELLIONS AGAINST COLONIAL RULE. THEN IN 1869, A KHIDIVE OF EGYPT AND SUDAN OPENED THE CANAL. AFTER TWO YEARS, ITS OWNERS EXPERIENCED FINANCIAL TROUBLES AND WERE FORCED TO SELL THEIR STOCK SHARES TO GREAT BRITAIN. FRANCE WAS STILL THE MAJOR SHAREHOLDER.
 IN 1888, THE CONVENTION OF CONSTANTINOPLE DECREED THE CANAL OPERATE AS A NEUTRAL ZONE UNDER BRITISH PROTECTION WHO HAD ASSUMED CONTROL. THE ANGLO-EGYPTIAN TREATY OF 1936 REAFFIRMED BRITAINS CONTROL OVER THE CANAL. EGYPT WITHDREW FROM THE TREATY IN 1951. THE BRITISH WITHDREW THEIR TROOPS IN 1956, HANDING CONTROL OVER TO THE EGYPTIAN GOVERNMENT UNDER PRESIDENT NASSER. OWNERSHIP WAS IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERRED TO THE SCA.

COLONIAL POWERS WERE ANGERED WITH EGYPT ESTABLISHING RELATIONS WITH RUSSIA. 

NASSER PREVENTED ISRAELI SHIPS INTO THE RED SEA. BRITAIN, FRANCE AND ISRAEL THREATENED TO INVADE EGYPT IN 1956. THE U.N OPENED THE CANAL WITH A PEACE KEEPING FORCE. IN 1967, WHEN NASSER ORDERED THE U.N. OUT, ISRAEL INVADED. THEY TOOK CONTROL OF THE EAST BANK, AND NASSER SHUT DOWN THE CANAL.
SADAT OPENED THE CANAL IN 1975. UNDER AN EGYPT-ISRAEL PEACE TREATY IN 1979, ISRAEL WAS ALLOWED TO STAY IN THE SINAI PENNISULA UNTIL 1981

ISRAEL NEVER HAD THE CHANCE NOR THE MILITARY STRENGTH TO TAKE OVER THE CANAL IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
EGYPTS MILITARY TODAY RANKS 14 OF 145. ISRAEL RANKS 18 OF 145. EGYPT COMMANDS MANPOWER, LAND POWER, NAVAL POWER, NATURAL RESOURCES, LOGISTICS AND GEOGRAPHY OVER ISRAEL.

ALL JIZZRAEL CAN DO IS COMPETE WITH THE SUEZ TRADE TRAFFIC BY KILLING CIVILIANS AND FLUSHING OUT PALESTINIANS FROM THEIR HOMELAND TO BUILD THE BEN GURION CANAL. IT WILL TAKE 10 YEARS OR SO AS DID THE SUEZ BUT THE ZIONISTS AND COLONIALISTS SEE DOLLAR SIGNS IN BOTH ITS CONSTRUCTION AND TRADE TRAFFIC. THE SUEZ MADE 6 BILLION IN REVENUES.