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Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 7:17 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 7:17 am

Just show us all these reports from the NY Times, CNN and LA Times are inaccurate..

There's cracks all over the place in Biden's economy..

And when just regular people can't afford a new home because of these interest rates it shows where you are...

Not everyone is in the stock market at 380000...

The best economy in my lifetime. 

As had been the case through the year, a strong pace of consumer spending helped drive the expansion. Personal consumption expenditures increased 2.8% for the quarter, down just slightly from the previous period.

State and local government spending also contributed, up 3.7%, as did a 2.5% increase in federal government expenditures. Gross private domestic investment rose 2.1%, another significant factor for the robust quarter.

The chain-weighted price index, which accounts for prices as well as changes in consumer behavior, increased 1.5% for the quarter, down sharply from 3.3% in the previous period and below the Wall Street estimate for a 2.5% acceleration.

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 7:17 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 7:17 am

Just show us all these reports from the NY Times, CNN and LA Times are inaccurate..

There's cracks all over the place in Biden's economy..

And when just regular people can't afford a new home because of these interest rates it shows where you are...

Not everyone is in the stock market at 380000...

No, GimmeGirl...

I show you I have and you leave for 3 months.
 

R.Suave » 25 Jan 2024, 6:43 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 6:43 pm

The index has now rebounded nearly 60% after plumbing record lows in June 2022. It is now just 7% shy of the historical average since 1978. Joanne Hsu, the director of the University Of Michigan's Surveys of Consumers, noted that "Democrats and Republicans alike showed their most favorable readings since summer of 2021."

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-c ... 024-01-19/

Thank you for, once again, trying to change the subject.  Consumer sentiment primarily measures how people (everyone...regardless of their eligibility or likelihood to vote) feel about their personal finances and the short term health of the economy.  OK...the post you quoted had nothing to do with people's personal finances.  It was about a survey that showed the overwhelming majority of registered voters feel the overall economy is in either poor or fair condition.  Those two are not the same thing...close, but no cigar.  Additionally, even if consumer sentiment is on the rise, the majority of registered voters disapprove of how Sleepy Joe is handling the economy.

ConsRule » 26 Jan 2024, 8:26 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 8:26 am

Thank you for, once again, trying to change the subject.  Consumer sentiment primarily measures how people (everyone...regardless of their eligibility or likelihood to vote) feel about their personal finances and the short term health of the economy.  OK...the post you quoted had nothing to do with people's personal finances.  It was about a survey that showed the overwhelming majority of registered voters feel the overall economy is in either poor or fair condition.  Those two are not the same thing...close, but no cigar.  Additionally, even if consumer sentiment is on the rise, the majority of registered voters disapprove of how Sleepy Joe is handling the economy.

The consumers are spending more money. Most Americans don't know that the economy is kicking ***. Most Americans don't understand that the economy is better than it has been in history. 

The Republicans want to talk down the economy and say it's bad. They want Americans to be unhappy. 

Bidencrimefamily » 26 Jan 2024, 8:32 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 8:32 am

The consumers are spending more money. Most Americans don't know that the economy is kicking ***. Most Americans don't understand that the economy is better than it has been in history. 

The Republicans want to talk down the economy and say it's bad. They want Americans to be unhappy.
 

That is EXACTLY the problem Biden is facing.  In politics, perception is much more important than fact.  That is especially true when "numbers" and/or "statistics" are used...because everyone of voting age understands numbers can be manipulated to paint whatever picture you want them to paint.

 

ConsRule » 26 Jan 2024, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 8:38 am

That is EXACTLY the problem Biden is facing.  In politics, perception is much more important than fact.  That is especially true when "numbers" and/or "statistics" are used...because everyone of voting age understands numbers can be manipulated to paint whatever picture you want them to paint.

Exactly. I was talking to an old boy up at the bar. And I told him that America is producing more oil than at any time in history. And he flipped out and I showed him the headlines and he said that liberal news. So I asked him what news he trusted and he told me and I showed him a headline from that news source that said exactly what I was saying. He went stomping off mumbling to himself after I showed him I was correct and he was wrong. 

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 8:41 am

Just show us why CNN, the NY Times and LA times are all wrong

Not just, Gimmie..

You need to stop lying.
 

ConsRule » 26 Jan 2024, 8:26 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 8:26 am

Thank you for, once again, trying to change the subject.  Consumer sentiment primarily measures how people (everyone...regardless of their eligibility or likelihood to vote) feel about their personal finances and the short term health of the economy.  OK...the post you quoted had nothing to do with people's personal finances.  It was about a survey that showed the overwhelming majoWhatrity of registered voters feel the overall economy is in either poor or fair condition.  Those two are not the same thing...close, but no cigar.  Additionally, even if consumer sentiment is on the rise, the majority of registered voters disapprove of how Sleepy Joe is handling the economy.

Lest I persist in doubt...

What, exactly, IS the subject?

November?

 

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:10 am

You requested links to my claims

They came from CNN, NY Times and the LA Times..

!

Not ANY links..
The ones informing your ignorance.

Not ones you haven't read.
 

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:12 am

Here you go Suave..

Enjoy!

the economy is better than it has been in the history of the United States. 

The stockmarket is breaking records. 

Is everything fixed. 

Is the poor still poor. 

Yes the poor is still poor. 

R.Suave » 26 Jan 2024, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:10 am

Lest I persist in doubt...

What, exactly, IS the subject?

November?

Maybe if you read what I actually post (and not what you think I post) you would be able to follow along.

You pretend to be an adult...read and comprehend.
 

ConsRule » 26 Jan 2024, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:15 am

Maybe if you read what I actually post (and not what you think I post) you would be able to follow along.

You pretend to be an adult...read and comprehend.

The economy in every measure is better under Biden. 

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:20 am

I disagree with that.
The economy has numerous cracks in it that you ignore.

Interest rates?
Home sales?
Default loan payments...
Credit card debt highest ever...

The government is not responsible for your bad spending habits.  
 

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:30 am

So suddenly people putting billions of credit card are bad spending habits.....?

But on the other end you're praising the economy because of these habits...
Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

That's like the baseball GM braggin his team led the league in double plays this year...
(Which also means someone was always on base)

You're just mad that Biden is fixing all the problems from the Trump economy so fast. 

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:35 am

I'm mad because home sales are 28 year low?
Or we have record credit card debt...?
Or automobile repossessions are way up?

Inflation was because of Trump and covid. 

Biden is fixing the problems. 

The economic position of the united stares is the best in my lifetime. 

Everybody is hiring. 

Consumers are spending money. 

Is there always problems in the economy. Sure. 
 

Z09 » 26 Jan 2024, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:55 am

Inflation was NOT caused by Trump.

If so, suppose you tell us what he did to cause these problems.

The entire world was affected by Covid....

"consumers are spending money"
Yep!
And credit card debt is at a record high

All I care about is my investments are skyrocketing.  

Im making more money today than anytime under trump. 

Dont really care about other people. Including you. 
 

Bidenomics baby.

Bidenomics baby.

R. Suave » 26 Jan 2024, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:10 am

Lest I persist in doubt...

What, exactly, IS the subject?

November?

 

which November? November is springtime in the southern hemisphere at the same time it is autumn in the northern.

Intellectual relative time doesn't match genetic timing of evolving as displaced. Why won't you be honest about that little detail?