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Past comments on past immigration bills that did not age well:When the U.S. Congress passed—and President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law—the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, the move was largely seen as symbolic.
 "The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants,” lead supporter Sen. Edward “Ted” Kennedy (D-Mass.) told the Senate during debate. “It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”That sentiment was echoed by Johnson, who, upon signing the act on October 3, 1965, said the bill would not be revolutionary: “It does not affect the lives of millions … It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either our wealth or our power.”

https://www.history.com/news/immigratio ... 65-changes

“Folks, I voted for a fence, I voted, unlike most Democrats – and some of you won’t like it – I voted for 700 miles of fence,” Biden told the group. “But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high – unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and – and you will not like this, and – punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.”

“Now, I know I’m not supposed to say it that bluntly, but they’re the facts, they’re the facts. And so everything else we do is in between here. Everything else we do is at the margins. And the reason why I add that parenthetically, why I believe the fence is needed does not have anything to do with immigration as much as drugs,” Biden continued. “And let me tell you something folks, people are driving across that border with tons, tons, hear me, tons of everything from byproducts for methamphetamine to cocaine to heroin and it’s all coming up through corrupt Mexico.”

Later:Speaking at a September 2007 debate at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, Biden said he would not allow so-called sanctuary cities to ignore federal law.“Yes or no, would you allow those cities to ignore the federal law?” Biden was asked. “No,” he responded.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/10/politics ... index.html

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

biden said

. “But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high – unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and – and you will not like this, and – punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.”

He ain’t wrong

Bet he about broke his hip walking that one back to his bosses
 

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

biden said

. “But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high – unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and – and you will not like this, and – punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.”

He ain’t wrong

Bet he about broke his hip walking that one back to his bosses

No that's what Biden new border deal will do. 

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

biden said

. “But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high – unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and – and you will not like this, and – punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.”

He ain’t wrong

Bet he about broke his hip walking that one back to his bosses
 

 

I don't disagree with him.  He said what he said.  But, don't forget the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act .  Biden has been President 3 years now.  At any point he could have been imposing penalties on the employers.  

 

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

biden said

. “But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high – unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and – and you will not like this, and – punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.”

He ain’t wrong

Bet he about broke his hip walking that one back to his bosses

@Mrkelly  

Bidencrimefamily » 30 Jan 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:56 pm

No that's what Biden new border deal will do.

@Mrkelly  

 
 

Huey » 30 Jan 2024, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 3:00 pm

I don't disagree with him.  He said what he said.  But, don't forget the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act .  Biden has been President 3 years now.  At any point he could have been imposing penalties on the employers.

same as any other president since 

that’s the point 

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 3:26 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 3:26 pm

same as any other president since 

that’s the point 

 

I see that you are all for continuing the cycle and not holding those you vote for to account.  

Got it.  

Huey » 30 Jan 2024, 3:27 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 3:27 pm

I see that you are all for continuing the cycle and not holding those you vote for to account.  

Got it.

it that a joke?   

so 2020 was the first chance that any president had to impose heavy fines on people that hire illegals?

only dems should or could do it?

you “Got it” alright 

project much Mr partisan?   

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 3:34 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 3:34 pm

it that a joke?   

so 2020 was the first chance that any president had to impose heavy fines on people that hire illegals?

only dems should or could do it?

you “Got it” alright 

project much Mr partisan?   

 

This discussion is about Biden and what he really wants.  Right now, Biden is President.  Right now, that precludes the others.  You are using the same excuse my sons used as children.  "But he didn't do it".  "Or, he gets away with it".

You are diverting.  Because you go nuttin'. 

Biden has had the ability to do what he said needed to be done in the past.  And you can say is "no one else did it".  
 

Huey » 30 Jan 2024, 3:51 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 3:51 pm

This discussion is about Biden and what he really wants.  Right now, Biden is President.  Right now, that precludes the others.  You are using the same excuse my sons used as children.  "But he didn't do it".  "Or, he gets away with it".

You are diverting.  Because you go nuttin'. 

Biden has had the ability to do what he said needed to be done in the past.  And you can say is "no one else did it".

Nice try

you, like most partisans only bitch when it’s the other side

forgetting all about the SAME failures are YOUR side have 

if you have a thread where you bitched about this issue when tRump was in office 

I will apologize 

There is only one party  

But some of you can’t get that through your heads
 
 

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 4:54 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 4:54 pm

Nice try

you, like most partisans only bitch when it’s the other side

forgetting all about the SAME failures are YOUR side have 

if you have a thread where you bitched about this issue when tRump was in office 

I will apologize 

There is only one party  

But some of you can’t get that through your heads

Thanks to title 42 and other things there wasn't much to bitch about concerning the border relative to now.  Remember, partisan, your boy immediately went to the oval office to undo everything Trump.  That is why we are where we are not now concerning the border.  Remain in Mexico was working so well that Mexico had to secure it's southern border Title 42 became a two for one deal.

Your whataboutism just went down the toilet.  And remember, Partisan, this thread is about Biden.  


Now, I had plenty of thread bitching about Trump but the border was not one of them, Partisan.
 

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 3:34 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 3:34 pm

it that a joke?   

so 2020 was the first chance that any president had to impose heavy fines on people that hire illegals?

only dems should or could do it?

you “Got it” alright 

project much Mr partisan? 

You remain a dumb ***.....blaming employers for illegal immigration is like charging a rape victim for not supplying their attacker with a condom.  

Huey » 30 Jan 2024, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:26 pm

Past comments on past immigration bills that did not age well:When the U.S. Congress passed—and President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law—the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, the move was largely seen as symbolic.
 "The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants,” lead supporter Sen. Edward “Ted” Kennedy (D-Mass.) told the Senate during debate. “It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”That sentiment was echoed by Johnson, who, upon signing the act on October 3, 1965, said the bill would not be revolutionary: “It does not affect the lives of millions … It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either our wealth or our power.”

https://www.history.com/news/immigratio ... 65-changes

Nice find...!
The die was cast way back then...but the [[[JWO]]] patiently waited for the patriotic WWII Generation to die off before daring to "ramp up" the pace of their Illegal Alien Invasion Program to what it is now.
 
 

Huey » 30 Jan 2024, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:26 pm

Past comments on past immigration bills that did not age well:When the U.S. Congress passed—and President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law—the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, the move was largely seen as symbolic.
 "The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants,” lead supporter Sen. Edward “Ted” Kennedy (D-Mass.) told the Senate during debate. “It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”That sentiment was echoed by Johnson, who, upon signing the act on October 3, 1965, said the bill would not be revolutionary: “It does not affect the lives of millions … It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either our wealth or our power.”

https://www.history.com/news/immigratio ... 65-changes

The citation doesn't match the OP.


I suspect it was provided by the arm up the OP's ***..
 

Huey » 30 Jan 2024, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 3:00 pm

I don't disagree with him.  He said what he said.  But, don't forget the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act .  Biden has been President 3 years now.  At any point he could have been imposing penalties on the employers.

Why?

Do you know anything about the history of such efforts?



 

RebelGator » 31 Jan 2024, 8:11 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2024, 8:11 am

You remain a dumb ***.....blaming employers for illegal immigration is like charging a rape victim for not supplying their attacker with a condom.

Between you and the OP, we're talking world class stupid.

Bidencrimefamily » 30 Jan 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:56 pm

No that's what Biden new border deal will do.

              We've already seen Biden's Border deal....... 
 A reversal Trump's Border policy which was working --- 2.5 Million crossing into this country in 2023 --- Sanctuary Cities in hysterics --- and every attempt possible made to remove us from the vetting process... 

              

Mrkelly » 30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2024, 2:46 pm

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

biden said

. “But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high – unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and – and you will not like this, and – punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.”

He ain’t wrong

Bet he about broke his hip walking that one back to his bosses

Turn the southern border into a military duty station.
Elect  a US President who will face the public on camera and spread the word that those who hire Illegal Aliens will be arrested and prosecuted
The [[[JWO]]] agenda to flood millions of Third World Primitives into every White Christian ruled nation on Earth is why  efforts to seal off the border  "is just window dressing"