Who cares what a neocon who granted meskins amnesty thinks about the guy who shut the border and protected murka?Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 7:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Coming from a converted Reaganite a few years back, I don't really buy into the Trump philosophy. To me it seems to be no philosophy or political worldview. Just the whims of Donald Trump and his populist appeal. I guess it's not all that bad to appeal directly but it creates problems too for MAGA Republicans and their worldview. Anyone want to comment?
Cannonpointer » 12 Feb 2024, 8:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Who cares what a neocon who granted meskins amnesty thinks about the guy who shut the border and protected murka?
Trickle on reagan - he's a fraud.
Trump built plenty of sections where needed - he never intended to build the entire 2,000 miles of border.Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 8:05 pm » wrote: ↑ He's probably also the reason English is the world's most spoken language. Trump failed to build a wall.
Cannonpointer » 12 Feb 2024, 8:13 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump built plenty of sections where needed - he never intended to build the entire 2,000 miles of border.
Reagan caused zero new countries to speak english - thanks for sharing the fantasy of that, though.
Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 8:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Thanks to many Illegal Alien loving piece of **** traitors who worked overtime to defeat Trump's efforts .... Trump failed to build a wall

Because they attached it to the package for aid to Israel, Ukraine and the Indo Pacific in HR2. The Republicans voted it down after months of negotiation and are making increasingly unreasonable demands rather than solve the problem. That's the view from Washington. And you can't just completely close the border. There's a lot of commerce. HR2 in the Senate form would shut down the border if more than 5000 illegals crossed the border in one day. That was the compromise and it was bipartisan in the Senate markup.
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/democ ... rder-wall/Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑ Because they attached it to the package for aid to Israel, Ukraine and the Indo Pacific in HR2. The Republicans voted it down after months of negotiation and are making increasingly unreasonable demands rather than solve the problem. That's the view from Washington.
No sir, there was no money for foreign countries in HR2.Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑ Because they attached it to the package for aid to Israel, Ukraine and the Indo Pacific in HR2. The Republicans voted it down after months of negotiation and are making increasingly unreasonable demands rather than solve the problem. That's the view from Washington. And you can't just completely close the border. There's a lot of commerce. HR2 in the Senate form would shut down the border if more than 5000 illegals crossed the border in one day. That was the compromise and it was bipartisan in the Senate markup.
Have you been drinking?Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 8:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Well I can attest to the fact that English is the world's most spoken language followed by Mandurian. Reagan probably played a role in that by ending the Cold War. The Trump Republican party has given up on the "shining city on the hill" that was united under Reagan. Instead Trump plays more to appeal to voters than to actually accomplish anything. Remember when Kennedy was asked "Why are you running for President?" and he said "I don't know"? Trump kinda seems to be on that plane given he has no real worldview or agenda accept the border and culture wars. I could go on but I think its about appeal more than substance with the MAGA crowd.
Well you can refer to the bill as hr2 even though the bill changed in the markup process.golfboy » 12 Feb 2024, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑ No sir, there was no money for foreign countries in HR2.
HR2 also didn't allow any illegal immigration.
Are you thinking about the Senate Bill instead of HR2 that Republicans passed?
How do I support child rape? That's the problem. It's a pile of horse crap being sold with no substance.Cannonpointer » 12 Feb 2024, 9:30 pm » wrote: ↑ Have you been drinking?
Which Kennedy said that silly ****? Where? When? Link?
There are more than a hundred million Americans whose PRIMARY concerns are the border and the culture war being waged against us.
Perhaps you are sanguine with child rape and misogyny as a government policy. We're not.
THIS.Cannonpointer » 12 Feb 2024, 9:30 pm » wrote: ↑ There are more than a hundred million Americans whose PRIMARY concerns are the border and the culture war being waged against us.
Perhaps you are sanguine with child rape and misogyny as a government policy. We're not.
Obama failed to put a NATO base in Crimea.Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 8:05 pm » wrote: ↑ He's probably also the reason English is the world's most spoken language. Trump failed to build a wall.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 9:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Well you can refer to the bill as hr2 even though the bill changed in the markup process.
Sumela » 12 Feb 2024, 9:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Obama failed to put a NATO base in Crimea.
Obama failed to overthrow Assad.
So whats yer point?
Lots of words. Part of the goal of the 2014 coup was to push Russian military out of Crimea,Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 10:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Crimea was part of Ukraine which was not a NATO member.
A discussion on Syria would be welcome by me. They have been in Civil War for over a decade.
Don't know what you're talking about. HR2 was passed in the House and didn't have ANY foreign country funding.Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 9:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Well you can refer to the bill as hr2 even though the bill changed in the markup process.
No substance?Monderegal » 12 Feb 2024, 9:35 pm » wrote: ↑ How do I support child rape? That's the problem. It's a pile of horse crap being sold with no substance.