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Skans » 13 Feb 2024, 7:51 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 7:51 pm

Trump would in no shape or form support Russian aggression on any nation, let alone a NATO nation.  That's just not Trump.  That is pure Democrat false narratives about Trump.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68266447

tell me the good news that this has finally caused you to see the light and to no longer support this asshole.

jerrab » 13 Feb 2024, 7:32 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 7:32 pm

zelenski vowed for fight russia to get crimea back and that he wanted to join nato- putting nato in russia's backyard, a very real threat for russia.

The question was how and why Russia would attack Israel. You found something on the internet. 
PS Russia was angry about the Maiden in 2014 more than Crimea. Annexing Crimea was his response. The worries about Ukraine joining NATO were real for Putin in my estimation. I used to have Russian friends before the invasion.  

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:07 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68266447

tell me the good news that this has finally caused you to see the light and to no longer support this asshole.

It appears Biden was getting $$$ from China..

The evidence is clearer all the time

Any comment?
 

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maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:07 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68266447

tell me the good news that this has finally caused you to see the light and to no longer support this asshole.

I actually read what Trump said.  Good for him.  He is telling the deadbeats you pay to be in NATO, or get the F- out.  And, if you get out, it will be at your own peril. 

Maineman, America is tired of deadbeats and freeloaders.  We have to put up with our own damn countrymen taking free healthcare and handouts from us hard working citizens because of you Democrats.  But, being asked to defend wealthy nations that fail to pay their way for their own defense, now that's pathetic.  And, thank God, Trump is driving that point home with them.
 
 

Skans » 13 Feb 2024, 8:16 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:16 pm

I actually read what Trump said.  Good for him.  He is telling the deadbeats you pay to be in NATO, or get the F- out.  And, if you get out, it will be at your own peril. 

Maineman, America is tired of deadbeats and freeloaders.  We have to put up with our own damn countrymen taking free healthcare and handouts from us hard working citizens because of you Democrats.  But, being asked to defend wealthy nations that fail to pay their way for their own defense, now that's pathetic.  And, thank God, Trump is driving that point home with them.

he would "encourage" Russia to attack our allies.

I am quickly losing what little respect I might have once had for you.

have you no **** shame?  Does the scrotum really taste THAT good?

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 8:20 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:20 pm

he would "encourage" Russia to attack our allies.

I am quickly losing what little respect I might have once had for you.

have you no **** shame?  Does the scrotum really taste THAT good?

You're cherry picking what Trump said.  I read what he said, all of it.  And, I understand what he said and what he meant.  If you are in and treat America fairly by at least paying your fair share, we will be there for you.  If you want to keep F-ing America, then we will allow other nations to F- you.  I like it!
 

Monderegal » 13 Feb 2024, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:09 pm

The question was how and why Russia would attack Israel. You found something on the internet. 
PS Russia was angry about the Maiden in 2014 more than Crimea. Annexing Crimea was his response. The worries about Ukraine joining NATO were real for Putin in my estimation. I used to have Russian friends before the invasion.

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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... r-analysts

Russia has officially backed calls for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza at the UN, while early in the war Putin accused Israel of contemplating tactics comparable to Nazi Germany's brutal siege of what is now Saint Petersburg during World War II.The health ministry in Hamas-run Gaza says Israel's offensive, aimed at destroying Hamas, has killed more than 19,600 people, mostly women and children.
 

Skans » 13 Feb 2024, 8:22 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:22 pm

You're cherry picking what Trump said.  I read what he said, all of it.  And, I understand what he said and what he meant.  If you are in and treat America fairly by at least paying your fair share, we will be there for you.  If you want to keep F-ing America, then we will allow other nations to F- you.  I like it!

Lots of NATO countries may not cough up as much money as they should, but they are not reticent when it comes to putting their sons and daughters in harm's way.    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topi ... 20Slovakia.

I may be "cherry picking" but he did, in fact, say that he would encourage Russia to do whatever they wanted to our ALLIES.  Shame on him.  Shame on you.  This conversation is OVER.
 

jerrab » 13 Feb 2024, 8:23 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:23 pm

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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... r-analysts

Russia has officially backed calls for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza at the UN, while early in the war Putin accused Israel of contemplating tactics comparable to Nazi Germany's brutal siege of what is now Saint Petersburg during World War II.The health ministry in Hamas-run Gaza says Israel's offensive, aimed at destroying Hamas, has killed more than 19,600 people, mostly women and children.

There's monsters under your bed.
 

Monderegal » 13 Feb 2024, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:09 pm

The question was how and why Russia would attack Israel. You found something on the internet. 
PS Russia was angry about the Maiden in 2014 more than Crimea. Annexing Crimea was his response. The worries about Ukraine joining NATO were real for Putin in my estimation. I used to have Russian friends before the invasion.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-p ... 023-11-17/

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 8:26 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:26 pm

Lots of NATO countries may not cough up as much money as they should,

And, that is a big damn problem.  Lots of Americans too - they don't pay their fair share either, do they, Maineman.  Regardless, none of the NATO nations have a draft.  Heck, they barely have militaries.  Those who choose to work for their country's military receive pay and benefits for the work they do and the risks they take.  

I may be "cherry picking" but he did, in fact, say that he would encourage Russia...

You are cherry picking.  And, you are mischaracterizing what Trump said.  See, I've read many of your posts.  You're not a dummy.  You and I can both read what Trump said and understand the point he was trying to get across.  You don't like the fact that he sounds like a bully - that's the truth of it.  I get it.  Being a southerner, it took me some time to understand how Trump speaks and what he means.  Trump is a bit of a bully, I acknowledge that.  And, yes, he talks like a bully sometimes.  But, sometimes, a bully (as opposed to a brain-dead, sackless corpse) is what we need. 

Especially when it comes to Euro-nations taking advantage of our generosity.  See, NATO is really for them.  Not so much for us. I don't see NATO jumping to defend our southern border, do you?
 
 
 

Monderegal » 13 Feb 2024, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:31 pm

There's monsters under your bed.

insulting me won't change a thing russia will get involved if the bloodshed in gaza  does not stop.

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 8:26 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:26 pm

I may be "cherry picking" but he did, in fact, say that he would encourage Russia to do whatever they wanted to our ALLIES.  Shame on him.  Shame on you.  This conversation is OVER.

 

jerrab » 13 Feb 2024, 8:35 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:35 pm

insulting me won't change a thing russia will get involved if the bloodshed in gaza  does not stop.

I'm sorry to insult you but I just don't see it in just about any scenario.

Monderegal » 13 Feb 2024, 8:49 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:49 pm

I'm sorry to insult you but I just don't see it in just about any scenario.

you were pretty insulting. it  was not called for.

I  answered your question.

jerrab » 13 Feb 2024, 8:53 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:53 pm

you were pretty insulting. it  was not called for.

I  answered your question.

I still think you're seeing things that aren't there.

Mrkelly » 13 Feb 2024, 7:43 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 7:43 pm

People don't **** get it

Never will 

https://youtu.be/ATJJaCaWLZw?si=GEJBYo0sg5C7JOno
 
 

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