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"We are not going to sit idly by and watch an ignorant horde of science-denying lunatics destroy our planet."

Scientists Resort to Once-Unthinkable Solutions to Cool the Planet (msn.com)

Dumping chemicals in the ocean? Spraying saltwater into clouds? Injecting reflective particles into the sky? Scientists are resorting to once unthinkable techniques to cool the planet because global efforts to check greenhouse gas emissions are failing.These geoengineering approaches were once considered taboo by scientists and regulators who feared that tinkering with the environment could have unintended consequences, but now researchers are receiving taxpayer funds and private investments to get out of the lab and test these methods outdoors.
The shift reflects growing concern that efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions aren’t moving fast enough to prevent the destructive effects of heat waves, storms and floods made worse by climate change. Geoengineering isn’t a substitute for reducing emissions, according to scientists and business leaders involved in the projects. Rather, it is a way to slow climate warming in the next few years while buying time to switch to a carbon-free economy in the longer term. Three field experiments are under way in the U.S. and overseas. This month, researchers aboard a ship off the northeastern coast of Australia near the Whitsunday Islands are spraying a briny mixture through high-pressure nozzles into the air in an attempt to brighten low-altitude clouds that form over the ocean. Scientists hope bigger, brighter clouds will reflect sunlight away from the Earth, shade the ocean surface and cool the waters around the Great Barrier Reef, where warming ocean temperatures have contributed to massive coral die-offs.
 “There’s a huge political hesitancy to do outdoor perturbative experiments,” said Jessica Seddon, a senior fellow at the Yale Jackson School of Global Affairs. “It’s going to take some extraordinary bravery to acknowledge that in certain circumstances those experiments will be needed, have informational value and should be constrained but not banned.”
 

Punch » 15 Feb 2024, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 2:49 am

"We are not going to sit idly by and watch an ignorant horde of science-denying lunatics destroy our planet."

Scientists Resort to Once-Unthinkable Solutions to Cool the Planet (msn.com)

Dumping chemicals in the ocean? Spraying saltwater into clouds? Injecting reflective particles into the sky? Scientists are resorting to once unthinkable techniques to cool the planet because global efforts to check greenhouse gas emissions are failing.These geoengineering approaches were once considered taboo by scientists and regulators who feared that tinkering with the environment could have unintended consequences, but now researchers are receiving taxpayer funds and private investments to get out of the lab and test these methods outdoors.
The shift reflects growing concern that efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions aren’t moving fast enough to prevent the destructive effects of heat waves, storms and floods made worse by climate change. Geoengineering isn’t a substitute for reducing emissions, according to scientists and business leaders involved in the projects. Rather, it is a way to slow climate warming in the next few years while buying time to switch to a carbon-free economy in the longer term. Three field experiments are under way in the U.S. and overseas. This month, researchers aboard a ship off the northeastern coast of Australia near the Whitsunday Islands are spraying a briny mixture through high-pressure nozzles into the air in an attempt to brighten low-altitude clouds that form over the ocean. Scientists hope bigger, brighter clouds will reflect sunlight away from the Earth, shade the ocean surface and cool the waters around the Great Barrier Reef, where warming ocean temperatures have contributed to massive coral die-offs.
 “There’s a huge political hesitancy to do outdoor perturbative experiments,” said Jessica Seddon, a senior fellow at the Yale Jackson School of Global Affairs. “It’s going to take some extraordinary bravery to acknowledge that in certain circumstances those experiments will be needed, have informational value and should be constrained but not banned.”

 
 

Punch » 15 Feb 2024, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 2:49 am

"We are not going to sit idly by and watch an ignorant horde of science-denying lunatics destroy our planet."

Scientists Resort to Once-Unthinkable Solutions to Cool the Planet (msn.com)

Dumping chemicals in the ocean? Spraying saltwater into clouds? Injecting reflective particles into the sky? Scientists are resorting to once unthinkable techniques to cool the planet because global efforts to check greenhouse gas emissions are failing.These geoengineering approaches were once considered taboo by scientists and regulators who feared that tinkering with the environment could have unintended consequences, but now researchers are receiving taxpayer funds and private investments to get out of the lab and test these methods outdoors.
The shift reflects growing concern that efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions aren’t moving fast enough to prevent the destructive effects of heat waves, storms and floods made worse by climate change. Geoengineering isn’t a substitute for reducing emissions, according to scientists and business leaders involved in the projects. Rather, it is a way to slow climate warming in the next few years while buying time to switch to a carbon-free economy in the longer term. Three field experiments are under way in the U.S. and overseas. This month, researchers aboard a ship off the northeastern coast of Australia near the Whitsunday Islands are spraying a briny mixture through high-pressure nozzles into the air in an attempt to brighten low-altitude clouds that form over the ocean. Scientists hope bigger, brighter clouds will reflect sunlight away from the Earth, shade the ocean surface and cool the waters around the Great Barrier Reef, where warming ocean temperatures have contributed to massive coral die-offs.
 “There’s a huge political hesitancy to do outdoor perturbative experiments,” said Jessica Seddon, a senior fellow at the Yale Jackson School of Global Affairs. “It’s going to take some extraordinary bravery to acknowledge that in certain circumstances those experiments will be needed, have informational value and should be constrained but not banned.”
 

These scientists validate everything each reality does saving humanity from humans recognizing how life actually evolves in plain sight. Science sustains reasonable doubt for the same reasons religion does. add economics to that as well.

You are proud to be a stooge to people wishing nobody knows genetics eternally separates your time adapting as displaced here now.

Punch » 15 Feb 2024, 2:49 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 2:49 am

"We are not going to sit idly by and watch an ignorant horde of science-denying lunatics destroy our planet."

Scientists Resort to Once-Unthinkable Solutions to Cool the Planet (msn.com)

Dumping chemicals in the ocean? Spraying saltwater into clouds? Injecting reflective particles into the sky? Scientists are resorting to once unthinkable techniques to cool the planet because global efforts to check greenhouse gas emissions are failing.These geoengineering approaches were once considered taboo by scientists and regulators who feared that tinkering with the environment could have unintended consequences, but now researchers are receiving taxpayer funds and private investments to get out of the lab and test these methods outdoors.
The shift reflects growing concern that efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions aren’t moving fast enough to prevent the destructive effects of heat waves, storms and floods made worse by climate change. Geoengineering isn’t a substitute for reducing emissions, according to scientists and business leaders involved in the projects. Rather, it is a way to slow climate warming in the next few years while buying time to switch to a carbon-free economy in the longer term. Three field experiments are under way in the U.S. and overseas. This month, researchers aboard a ship off the northeastern coast of Australia near the Whitsunday Islands are spraying a briny mixture through high-pressure nozzles into the air in an attempt to brighten low-altitude clouds that form over the ocean. Scientists hope bigger, brighter clouds will reflect sunlight away from the Earth, shade the ocean surface and cool the waters around the Great Barrier Reef, where warming ocean temperatures have contributed to massive coral die-offs.
 “There’s a huge political hesitancy to do outdoor perturbative experiments,” said Jessica Seddon, a senior fellow at the Yale Jackson School of Global Affairs. “It’s going to take some extraordinary bravery to acknowledge that in certain circumstances those experiments will be needed, have informational value and should be constrained but not banned.”

**** stupid waste of time and money.

"Scientists" like these morons do NOT have widespread support and some no doubt are reaping financial benefits.

Why not set off a few hydrogen bombs in the deserts of the world?
Wasn't that going start a nuclear winter? Nice and cool...

DeezerShoove » 15 Feb 2024, 8:52 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:52 am

**** stupid waste of time and money.

"Scientists" like these morons do NOT have widespread support and some no doubt are reaping financial benefits.

Why not set off a few hydrogen bombs in the deserts of the world?
Wasn't that going start a nuclear winter? Nice and cool...

LOL...great idea, or to save us from radioactive fallout, get all the volcanoes to erupt and bury the world in ash...
 

ROG62 » 15 Feb 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

LOL...great idea, or to save us from radioactive fallout, get all the volcanoes to erupt and bury the world in ash...

The particulate matter would contain little radiation as compared to the benefits of a nuclear winter.

Deezer Shoove » 15 Feb 2024, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:17 am

The particulate matter would contain little radiation as compared to the benefits of a nuclear winter.

Your sarcasm will destroy this species from within this species.

Nostradamus'omh » 15 Feb 2024, 9:43 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:43 am

Your sarcasm will destroy this species from within this species.

The only things in the universe that will care about that would be dead.

Kind of like that tree falling in the forest when nobody is around.
Did it even make a sound?

Deezer Shoove » 15 Feb 2024, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 12:49 pm

The only things in the universe that will care about that would be dead.

Kind of like that tree falling in the forest when nobody is around.
Did it even make a sound?

philosophy doesn't solve issues, it creates them.

Nostradamus'omh » 15 Feb 2024, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 1:36 pm

philosophy doesn't solve issues, it creates them.

There is no such thing as a problem.

Deezer Shoove » 15 Feb 2024, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 1:38 pm

There is no such thing as a problem.

I am showing corruption, not problems. Your corrupted mentality has problems with honesty while equally adapting uniquely here. the who you say you are doesn't evolve as what you've been since conceived.

ROG62 » 15 Feb 2024, 6:29 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 6:29 am

 
 

Nostradamus'omh » 15 Feb 2024, 1:40 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 1:40 pm

I am showing corruption, not problems. Your corrupted mentality has problems with honesty while equally adapting uniquely here. the who you say you are doesn't evolve as what you've been since conceived.

People here, you included, don't want honesty at all.
They want agreement. Even that's based on mood swings, not logic.
You're not the paragon of honesty yourself, baby talk.

Hiding behind meaningless drivel is spinelessness.
 

Deezer Shoove » 15 Feb 2024, 11:29 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 11:29 pm

People here, you included, don't want honesty at all.
They want agreement. Even that's based on mood swings, not logic.
You're not the paragon of honesty yourself, baby talk.

Hiding behind meaningless drivel is spinelessness.
 

Ironic you used "they" not "we" want agreement and here you are downplaying anyone not agreeing with humanity.

I am self evidently me. You are self evidently you. Everything is exactly what it is doing occupying time here now. Kinetic evolving vs potential evolution if, could, would, should, maybe, might, seems like, looks like, parallel with, in series with, and then comes reasonable doubt anything is specifically here now by one method alone used every generation gap since dawn of civilization.

Intellectual Time Management is the necessary evil every reality is built within context, ideas used every generation ancestors are never same people reproduced twice since inception of one's ancestral lineage evolved from specific geographical areas in this atmosphere.

Creating an intellectual advantage over equally constructed brain that operates each sole displacement relative to ancestry that added it to the moment. Zero sum gain.

No more great great grandchildren sustaining the 5th generation gap so far, so goes the previous 4. So goes a man, so goes mankind. Damn, I just thought out my next thread with this last sentence.

ROG62 » 15 Feb 2024, 6:29 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 6:29 am

 
 

Jantje_Smit » 16 Feb 2024, 6:20 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 6:20 am

 

 
 

Nostradamus'omh » 16 Feb 2024, 6:00 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 6:00 am

Ironic you used "they" not "we" want agreement and here you are downplaying anyone not agreeing with humanity.

I am self evidently me. You are self evidently you. Everything is exactly what it is doing occupying time here now. Kinetic evolving vs potential evolution if, could, would, should, maybe, might, seems like, looks like, parallel with, in series with, and then comes reasonable doubt anything is specifically here now by one method alone used every generation gap since dawn of civilization.

Intellectual Time Management is the necessary evil every reality is built within context, ideas used every generation ancestors are never same people reproduced twice since inception of one's ancestral lineage evolved from specific geographical areas in this atmosphere.

Creating an intellectual advantage over equally constructed brain that operates each sole displacement relative to ancestry that added it to the moment. Zero sum gain.

No more great great grandchildren sustaining the 5th generation gap so far, so goes the previous 4. So goes a man, so goes mankind. Damn, I just thought out my next thread with this last sentence.

Your threads are you having a conversation with the idiotic voices in your head.
Nobody else needs to see that ****. Are you so conceited to believe otherwise?
Needy and filled with baby talk . . . to yourself.

That's why you should think twice about "counseling" others. Corral your demons first.
 

Deezer Shoove » 16 Feb 2024, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:13 am

Your threads are you having a conversation with the idiotic voices in your head.
Nobody else needs to see that ****. Are you so conceited to believe otherwise?
Needy and filled with baby talk . . . to yourself.

That's why you should think twice about "counseling" others. Corral your demons first.
 

I don't interpret adapting to the moment, I navigate knowing my time left depends on every choice I make forward. I don't choose to cling to faith real is too difficult to adapt as displaced until you have to debate people defending concepts anything else is possible factually reciting human behavior since recorded history used against last generation arriving to pick a side or get punished by all sides taken up by social consensus of we last 4 generations govern humanity with an iron fist and no mercy for anyone not believing now isn't eternity and for thinking genetics actually eternally separates every reproduction living here now.
I have compromised every rotation of the planet. Played by the rules constantly reinterpreted to do multiple things different every generation gap being to to protect tomorrow's children from anyone trying to disrupt humanity in this atmosphere.

As a great great grandchild since birth I was a tomorrow's child until I became a dad. A grandpa. evolving doesn't evolve by intellectual time management.


but corruption does advance every generation gap serving ideas now isn't the time evolving limits ancestor to specifically adapting as displaced here now.

I explain how it does, and every reality typecasts me as lower than human status mentally unstable, and yet I harm nobody debunking rationed thoughts recited for thousands of years.

Nostradamus'omh » 16 Feb 2024, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 1:00 pm

I don't interpret adapting to the moment, I navigate knowing my time left depends on every choice I make forward. I don't choose to cling to faith real is too difficult to adapt as displaced until you have to debate people defending concepts anything else is possible factually reciting human behavior since recorded history used against last generation arriving to pick a side or get punished by all sides taken up by social consensus of we last 4 generations govern humanity with an iron fist and no mercy for anyone not believing now isn't eternity and for thinking genetics actually eternally separates every reproduction living here now.
I have compromised every rotation of the planet. Played by the rules constantly reinterpreted to do multiple things different every generation gap being to to protect tomorrow's children from anyone trying to disrupt humanity in this atmosphere.

As a great great grandchild since birth I was a tomorrow's child until I became a dad. A grandpa. evolving doesn't evolve by intellectual time management.

but corruption does advance every generation gap serving ideas now isn't the time evolving limits ancestor to specifically adapting as displaced here now.

I explain how it does, and every reality typecasts me as lower than human status mentally unstable, and yet I harm nobody debunking rationed thoughts recited for thousands of years.

So far, I haven't seen a single "explanation" from you. Ever.

I believe an explanation is meant to add info and/or clear up misconceptions.
Look it up.

Have explanation explained to you.
-or-
Keep failing in your mission is "explain" anything.

Deezer Shoove » 16 Feb 2024, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 2:06 pm

So far, I haven't seen a single "explanation" from you. Ever.

I believe an explanation is meant to add info and/or clear up misconceptions.
Look it up.

Have explanation explained to you.
-or-
Keep failing in your mission is "explain" anything.

Know why that is? Your mind is looking for something to believe possible, not discover what is self evident.

Your genetic brain just navigates living where you exist living eternally separated now.

that simple.