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maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:17 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/politics ... index.html

damn.... how many times did Hannity claim that this guy was THE story that tied the whole Hunter investigation together?

What now, MAGA morons? @RebelGator   claims something called the Red Binder is gonna be the new thing.

I'm gonna have to lay in a stock of popcorn... this is getting fun!  

Can you gives us an update on the Russia Russia Russia hoax that all of you refused to talk about,,..at least before the next hoax is started.


you really liked popcorn then too

RebelGator » 16 Feb 2024, 7:59 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 7:59 am

A consortium of thieves is your final answer?

A spurious unsupported allegation is YOUR final answer?    

This guy that Hannity ranted about on nearly a nightly basis for the past year is a liar?  

wow

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:10 am

A spurious unsupported allegation is YOUR final answer?    

This guy that Hannity ranted about on nearly a nightly basis for the past year is a liar?  

wow

And Maddow ranted about Russian Collusion and pee tapes for years that cost the taxpayers $40 million...
....and did you care?
 

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:10 am

A spurious unsupported allegation is YOUR final answer?    

This guy that Hannity ranted about on nearly a nightly basis for the past year is a liar?  

wow

So, you're saying that Hannity "ranted" for a year?? So what PROOF do you have that YOU weren't watching, since your CLAIM is without ANY EVIDENCE that it happened as claimed BY YOU ****!!


 

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:17 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/politics ... index.html

damn.... how many times did Hannity claim that this guy was THE story that tied the whole Hunter investigation together?

What now, MAGA morons? @RebelGator   claims something called the Red Binder is gonna be the new thing.

I'm gonna have to lay in a stock of popcorn... this is getting fun!  

Except.........Hunter...........admits.................that...................he...............worked...................for.............BURISMA!!!  And, Joe Biden was instrumental in having the prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma corruption. OH SNAP!!!

nefarious101 » 16 Feb 2024, 8:34 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 8:34 am

Can you gives us an update on the Russia Russia Russia hoax that all of you refused to talk about,,..at least before the next hoax is started.

you really liked popcorn then too

Apples and oranges.

Actually more like apples and piston rings.

First off, if, by "Russia Hoax", you are talking about Russian interference in the  2016 election, Volume One of the Mueller Report clearly lays out the facts that show that Russia did, in fact, meddle in our election by a concerted, targeted operation of using social media to insert fake news stories into the national dialog.

If, by, "Russia Hoax" you are talking about the Steele Dossier, some of that was proven to be true, some was proven to be false, some has yet to be conclusively proven either way.  But in that case, the discussion was driven by journalists seeking to expose the story and not be the Justice Department

In THIS case, we don't have journalists seeking to expose anything.  We have a federal prosecutor having investigated the allegations made by Alexander Smirnov and now determining that the FBI informant LIED about the Biden family and he has indicted the man for lying to the FBI.

There is no HOAX there.  There is a criminal indictment.  THE lynchpin to the entire House investigation of Hunter Biden just vanished in a wisp of smoke.

That would seem to me to make the whole Hunter debacle the Hoax this year!  

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:28 am

Apples and oranges.

Actually more like apples and piston rings.

First off, if, by "Russia Hoax", you are talking about Russian interference in the  2016 election, Volume One of the Mueller Report clearly lays out the facts that show that Russia did, in fact, meddle in our election by a concerted, targeted operation of using social media to insert fake news stories into the national dialog.

If, by, "Russia Hoax" you are talking about the Steele Dossier, some of that was proven to be true, some was proven to be false, some has yet to be conclusively proven either way.  But in that case, the discussion was driven by journalists seeking to expose the story and not be the Justice Department

In THIS case, we don't have journalists seeking to expose anything.  We have a federal prosecutor having investigated the allegations made by Alexander Smirnov and now determining that the FBI informant LIED about the Biden family and he has indicted the man for lying to the FBI.

There is no HOAX there.  There is a criminal indictment.  THE lynchpin to the entire House investigation of Hunter Biden just vanished in a wisp of smoke.

That would seem to me to make the whole Hunter debacle the Hoax this year!

"lynchpin"...

Comer stated after the arrest that...

“To be clear, the impeachment inquiry is not reliant on the FBI’s FD-1023. It is based on a large record of evidence, including bank records and witness testimony, revealing that Joe Biden knew of and participated in his family’s business dealings,”

 
 
 

Skans » 16 Feb 2024, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:23 am

Except.........Hunter...........admits.................that...................he...............worked...................for.............BURISMA!!!  And, Joe Biden was instrumental in having the prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma corruption. OH SNAP!!!

Hunter Biden was on the board of directors of Burisma.  There is nothing illegal about that.

Victor Shokin was fired for being a corrupt, ineffective prosecutor.  His dismissal was a concerted effort supported by the European Union as well as the International Monetary Fund.  His office had stopped investigating Burisma for well over a year by the time he was fired and, even when Burisma was under investigation previously, it was for activities that pre-dated Hunter's appointment to the board.

OH SNAP.

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:33 am

 His office had stopped investigating Burisma for well over a year by the time he was fired and, even when Burisma was under investigation previously, it was for activities that pre-dated Hunter's appointment to the board.

OH SNAP.

I guess that's the reason Obama and his token white boy were so keen on eliminating the prosecutor.....'cuz it was, Oh SNAP, old news.

RebelGator » 16 Feb 2024, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:40 am

I guess that's the reason Obama and his token white boy were so keen on eliminating the prosecutor.....'cuz it was, Oh SNAP, old news.

No.  his actions or inactions on Burisma had nothing to do with it... which is the point... He was fired for his rampant corruption which had nothing to do with Burisma or Hunter.  And I really wouldn't marginalize and diminish the European Union and the International  Monetary Fund by referring to them as "Obama's token white boys", if I were you, Cletis.
 
 

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:33 am

Hunter Biden was on the board of directors of Burisma.  There is nothing illegal about that.

Victor Shokin was fired for being a corrupt, ineffective prosecutor.  His dismissal was a concerted effort supported by the European Union as well as the International Monetary Fund.  His office had stopped investigating Burisma for well over a year by the time he was fired and, even when Burisma was under investigation previously, it was for activities that pre-dated Hunter's appointment to the board.

OH SNAP.

What was illegal was:

• Joe Biden using his VP position to pressure Ukranian authorities to fire the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma for corruption and
• The amount of money Hunter Biden received from Burisma for his father's favors in killing a corruption investigation.

Is that illegal enough for you, Maineman?
 

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:28 am

Apples and oranges.

Actually more like apples and piston rings.

First off, if, by "Russia Hoax", you are talking about Russian interference in the  2016 election, Volume One of the Mueller Report clearly lays out the facts that show that Russia did, in fact, meddle in our election by a concerted, targeted operation of using social media to insert fake news stories into the national dialog.

If, by, "Russia Hoax" you are talking about the Steele Dossier, some of that was proven to be true, some was proven to be false, some has yet to be conclusively proven either way.  But in that case, the discussion was driven by journalists seeking to expose the story and not be the Justice Department

In THIS case, we don't have journalists seeking to expose anything.  We have a federal prosecutor having investigated the allegations made by Alexander Smirnov and now determining that the FBI informant LIED about the Biden family and he has indicted the man for lying to the FBI.

There is no HOAX there.  There is a criminal indictment.  THE lynchpin to the entire House investigation of Hunter Biden just vanished in a wisp of smoke.

That would seem to me to make the whole Hunter debacle the Hoax this year!

It never fails to amaze me how libs like you can be SO gullible time after time after time of getting your *** kicked with the **** you so happily swallow that comes out of the Biden administration.  You act as if it's a slam dunk dead deal because yet another partisan Democrat hack has indicted someone who has spoken out against them, even after seeing how badly this tactic is working out for them every time in the past, including the current exposure of the Fani Willis corruption.  And the attempt to hide the truth behind THAT case is the entire reason Biden needed to throw another shiny object out to the fawning press to take the headlines away from THAT debacle!  The DNC knows that gullible puppets like you will fall for such redirection every single time!  What will it take to get through your thick head that Biden is doing nothing but throwing out a charge against a political enemy that will be virtually impossible to prove in a court of law?  But of course, by the time that trial would take place (assuming they don't dismiss it right after the election) the presidential campaign will be over, and over the next 10 months they'll be able to make the phony claim that he was a liar who is under indictment every time a reporter brings up the subject to Karim of Wheat.  And once discovery in the case is presented, all he has to do is explain why and how he came to his justifiable conclusions about Hunter and Joe's corruption, but Smirnov will be found innocent of the charges, I guarantee it!

So tell us now, you gullible nimrod.  Share your vast knowledge of what it was in the Steele Dossier that has been proven to be accurate as you claim.   
 

Beekeeper » 16 Feb 2024, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 8:30 am

Why of course it does!! Congress is getting WAY TO CLOSE to finding out how much of a TRAITOR and CROOK your boy byeDUMB has been over his years in government, so the "Big Guy" sends in his DOJ to COVER UP THE CRIMES by indicting the WITNESSES!!

And you think you have a "gotcha' moment here?? When everyone KNOWS the reasons behind this.

       

Skans » 16 Feb 2024, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:54 am

What was illegal was:

• Joe Biden using his VP position to pressure Ukranian authorities to fire the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma for corruption and
• The amount of money Hunter Biden received from Burisma for his father's favors in killing a corruption investigation.

Is that illegal enough for you, Maineman?

You're as obstinant and thick as a brick, aren't ya?

As I said.  Shokin was NOT investigating Burisma for corruption at the time of his dismissal and had not been looking at Burisma for well over a year before.  He was dismissed because of rampant corruption having nothing to do with Burisma.

Hunter Biden was paid by Burisma because he was serving on their board of directors.  His service there was not connected to the firing of Shokin.

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:05 am

You're as obstinant and thick as a brick, aren't ya?

As I said.  Shokin was NOT investigating Burisma for corruption at the time of his dismissal and had not been looking at Burisma for well over a year before.  He was dismissed because of rampant corruption having nothing to do with Burisma.

Hunter Biden was paid by Burisma because he was serving on their board of directors.  His service there was not connected to the firing of Shokin.

Well, you say that, but that's not what Shokin said.  He blamed his firing on Joe Biden.  I believe he even told Donald Trump this, when he looked into what happened.

In fact, there is video of Joe Biden bragging about this.  So, who am I going to believe?  Trump, Shokin and Biden, who all confirm this, or you.

 
 

Skans » 16 Feb 2024, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:07 am

Well, you say that, but that's not what Shokin said.  He blamed his firing on Joe Biden.  I believe he even told Donald Trump this, when he looked into what happened.

And, of course, you believe Shokin and Trump and disbelieve the entire European Union and the International Monetary Fund.

Color me sixteen different shades of surprised by THAT!!!  

Zeets2 » 16 Feb 2024, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 9:57 am

So tell us now, you gullible nimrod.  Share your vast knowledge of what it was in the Steele Dossier that has been proven to be accurate as you claim.  :

great article:

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/st ... rospective

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:10 am

great article:

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/st ... rospective

The best dossier dirty money could buy.

 
 

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:05 am

You're as obstinant and thick as a brick, aren't ya?

As I said.  Shokin was NOT investigating Burisma for corruption at the time of his dismissal and had not been looking at Burisma for well over a year before.  He was dismissed because of rampant corruption having nothing to do with Burisma.

Hunter Biden was paid by Burisma because he was serving on their board of directors.  His service there was not connected to the firing of Shokin.

!!

Ukrainian prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin, who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in US aid, was “a threat” to natural gas company Burisma Holdings, which paid Hunter Biden up to $1 million per year, the first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday.

 “He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

 Shokin’s office won a court order to seize Zlochevsky’s property on Feb. 2, 2016, the Kyiv Post reported at the time. Shokin was fired on March 29, purportedly due to his own corruption.

So, MY LITTLE BITCH, explain how if there was no investigation of Burisma, that Shokin got an order to seize the OWNERS ASSETS???

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:09 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:09 am

And, of course, you believe Shokin and Trump
 

No.  Shokin, Trump AND Joe Biden.  Remember, Joe Biden made a video bragging about how he got the prosecutor fired.

and disbelieve the entire European Union and the International Monetary Fund.

Why would I listen to either.  The primary source of the information is Biden and Shokin.  A secondary source is Trump, since he actually made calls to investigate this while he was President.  Remember, the Democrats impeached Trump for looking too closely at this.