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RedheadedStranger » 15 Feb 2024, 8:30 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:30 pm

From the CNN story...

“To be clear, the impeachment inquiry is not reliant on the FBI’s FD-1023. It is based on a large record of evidence, including bank records and witness testimony, revealing that Joe Biden knew of and participated in his family’s business dealings,”

Ooops...

Huey » 16 Feb 2024, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:27 am

Oooops!

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:10 am

great article:

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/st ... rospective

RedheadedStranger » 16 Feb 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:35 am

That is actually from the CNN story that mainstain and Rico were bothe gloating over.

I guess they didn't read down and just ran with the headline as usual.

Huey » 16 Feb 2024, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:38 am

Both of them rarely read beyond the first para. or two.

Zeets2 » 16 Feb 2024, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:38 am

What's "great" to you is nothing but **** to the rest of us who actually have functioning brains.

All that story does is give you a bunch of allegations, reports, and statements WITHOUT A SINGLE SCRAP OF PROOF OF ANYTHING!

So tell us, genius.  Do you still believe that Trump hire prostitutes to piss on Obama's hotel bed?  There is NOTHING untoward about the Trump Corporation negotiating a hotel deal with Russia years prior to his decision to run for president, is there?  And isn't it a FACT that Hillary and the DNC are the ones who bought and paid for the Steele Dossier?  And isn't THAT and attempt to interfere with the election by them for intentionally spreading lies that you're completely unable to substantiate?
And once you're able to admit how absurdly ridiculous that charge is, how is it even possible to believe that any of the other unproven allegation in it were true?

Skans » 16 Feb 2024, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:25 am

No.  Shokin, Trump AND Joe Biden.  Remember, Joe Biden made a video bragging about how he got the prosecutor fired.

Why would I listen to either.  The primary source of the information is Biden and Shokin.  A secondary source is Trump, since he actually made calls to investigate this while he was President.  Remember, the Democrats impeached Trump for looking too closely at this.

Huey » 16 Feb 2024, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:38 am

Both of them rarely read beyond the first para. or two.

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:48 am

Quick.  without googling...which way do the screws on a navy destroyer turn?

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:51 am

As House Judiciary chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said on Fox News last month, “The most corroborating evidence we have is the 1023 form from this highly credible confidential human source.”    

Huey » 16 Feb 2024, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:53 am

Guesss.....Clockwise.

I have never been on a destroyer.

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 10:44 am

I never claimed that the most lurid of allegations in the Steele Dossier were true.  I merely stated that some of it was true, some of it was false and some of it remains unproven either way. 

And no... politics is a contact sport.  Smearing opponents is not illegally interfering with elections.  It's politics.

"Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa"

I can remember when the Nixon campaign claimed that there had been secret communications between Kennedy and the Vatican to arrange for papal influence in the Eecutive Branch.  True?  No.   Illegal? No.

“The Obama-Biden administration secretly launched a surveillance operation on the Trump campaign.”
NY Times By Charlie Savage Aug. 26, 2020
 

REPORT: Obama Intel Chiefs Recruited Foreign Agents to Spy on Trump.
AllSides February 14th, 2024

A report released on Tuesday revealed that under the Obama administration, the United States Intelligence Community (US IC) directed its foreign allies to spy on Donald Trump and his associates well before the FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation in 2016 into alleged Trump campaign collusion with Russia. The joint report by veteran journalists Michael Shellenberger, Matt Taibbi, and Alex Gutentag, citing sources close to a House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HSPCI) investigation, stated– the US IC requested that its “Five Eyes” allies — the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand — surveil Trump and his associates and share any information gathered. Obama’s CIA Director, John Brennan, identified 26 Trump associates for surveillance and manipulation, an assignment confirmed by a source within the US IC.

Zeets2 » 16 Feb 2024, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 11:15 am

How about wiretapping or suborning foreign allies to spy on a opposing nominee as well as a sitting president?
Are THOSE actions considered illegal in your warped, partisan mind?  Or don't you even believe it when a far left source who hates Trump like the NY Times does tells you about their crimes?:

So being such a stickler for justice, when would you expect CIA Director John Brennen to be indicted for the perjury he committed when speaking to a Congressional committee?

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 11:05 am

  
It was a trick question.

they have twin screws.  

and they rotate in opposite directions to counteract torque.

Huey » 16 Feb 2024, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 11:21 am

I have never been on one.  You said you had flying experience.

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:17 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/politics ... index.html

damn.... how many times did Hannity claim that this guy was THE story that tied the whole Hunter investigation together?

What now, MAGA morons? @RebelGator   claims something called the Red Binder is gonna be the new thing.

I'm gonna have to lay in a stock of popcorn... this is getting fun!  

Majik » 16 Feb 2024, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 11:28 am

“When asked by the committee about their confidence in the confidential human source, the FBI told the committee the confidential human source was credible and trusted, had worked with the FBI for over a decade, and had been paid six figures,” Comer added.

So, The FBI and DOJ either lied or is once again corruptly  taking orders directly from the Biden white house .......
So, which is it....?
and you being giddy over the apparent political corruption of The FBI and DOJ .....says a lot about your character. ....

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 11:26 am

I did.  and you didn't believe me.  I am just going to go with that as my default response to ANYTHING you say going forward.

maineman » 16 Feb 2024, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2024, 11:19 am

suborning?  funny stuff.

Like I said, Politics is a contact sport.  Ma Ma, Where's My Pa!

CIA Had Foreign Allies Spy On Trump Team, Triggering Russia Collusion Hoax, Sources Say  AllSides February 14th, 2024

Last year, John Durham, a special prosecutor for the Department of Justice (DOJ), concluded that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) should never have opened its investigation of alleged collusion by then-presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and Russia in late July of 2016.Now, multiple credible sources tell Public and Racket that the United States Intelligence Community (IC), including the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), illegally mobilized foreign intelligence agencies to target Trump advisors long before the summer of 2016.The new information fills many gaps in our understanding of the Russia collusion hoax and is supported by testimony already in the public record.Until now, the official story has been that the FBI’s investigation began after Australian intelligence officials told US officials that a Trump aide had boasted to an Australian diplomat that Russia had damning material about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.In truth, the US IC asked the “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance to surveil Trump’s associates and share the intelligence they acquired with US agencies, say sources close to a House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HSPCI) investigation. The Five Eyes nations are the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.