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The logic and facts just aren't on Israel's side. Sorry...Not sorry. 

1. Claim: Jews have historical claim on that land. 

• Two problems: 1) Irrelevant.  That was history, this is now. If we are going to go off that logic, then shouldn't America be given back to the Native Americans? 2) A good percentage of Jews in Israel don't even have a pure lineage to their ancestors. A huge chunk of their population are not full on Jews. They are muts like everyone else. Hell, I can convert to Judaism. So, if I convert, then move to Israel, that magically means I have historical claim to that land? 

                2. Claim: Israel are the victims.

•  How come people never ask why the Palis shoot rockets at them? They always step ahead and look at how Israel got rockets up their ***, as if it was for no reason whatsoever. I guess the Palis are just bored, so to pass the time, over the past several decades,  they shoot rockets over there. Palis are the ones retaliating, not Israel. Israel drew first blood the moment they were handed land with a big bow on top. Since then, Israel has been stealing the Pali's land through all sorts of different illegal tactics. You just don't see it, because their sleazy tactics don't involve the military. But they steal it. 

In conclusion, Israel makes for good ball lickers. Please stand in line if you want to tea bag them. 
 

I agree with you Vegas.

Vegas » 01 Mar 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 10:18 am

The logic and facts just aren't on Israel's side. Sorry...Not sorry. 

1. Claim: Jews have historical claim on that land. 

• Two problems: 1) Irrelevant.  That was history, this is now. If we are going to go off that logic, then shouldn't America be given back to the Native Americans? 2) A good percentage of Jews in Israel don't even have a pure lineage to their ancestors. A huge chunk of their population are not full on Jews. They are muts like everyone else. Hell, I can convert to Judaism. So, if I convert, then move to Israel, that magically means I have historical claim to that land? 

                2. Claim: Israel are the victims.

•  How come people never ask why the Palis shoot rockets at them? They always step ahead and look at how Israel got rockets up their ***, as if it was for no reason whatsoever. I guess the Palis are just bored, so to pass the time, over the past several decades,  they shoot rockets over there. Palis are the ones retaliating, not Israel. Israel drew first blood the moment they were handed land with a big bow on top. Since then, Israel has been stealing the Pali's land through all sorts of different illegal tactics. You just don't see it, because their sleazy tactics don't involve the military. But they steal it. 

German memory culture, anti-Semitic Zionists and Palestinian liberationGermany’s much lauded ‘memory culture’ is pure, empty, self-congratulatory propaganda.

 I am a Jewish pro-Palestine solidarity activist originally from the New York area and now based in Berlin. My grandmother was a Holocaust survivor from Cologne who fled to the United States during the Second World War at the age of 16. Her parents and much of her family were murdered during the Holocaust. I came “back” to Germany about five years ago, a decision born largely out of the desire for intergenerational healing for me and for my grandmother, who was alive at the time. I learned German and was able to speak to her in her native language in the last few years of her life. I told her stories about living in Germany, she met some of my friends and she was grateful for the ways in which the country and its people had apparently evolved and atoned for their ugly history.I am glad she died before I had the opportunity to recognise what a naive, idealistic delusion this was.

 In the past few years as I have educated myself, become active in the movement for Palestinian liberation and extracted myself from the extreme Zionist conditioning and brainwashing baked into the fabric of my upbringing, my appreciation for German “Erinnerungskultur” (“memory culture”) has steeply devolved into the realisation that the entire concept is pure, empty, self-congratulatory propaganda. It is grounded in the intentional, racist displacement of anti-Semitism and responsibility for the Holocaust from the Germans who perpetuated it to the Arabs, Muslims and, above all, the Palestinians, who they now demonise and scapegoat as a deflection and distraction.A documentary from 1985, Ma’loul Celebrates Its Destruction, provides an account of the destruction of entire villages during the 1948 Nakba. In it, an interviewer says to a Palestinian man who was displaced: “But they killed six million Jews.” His rightful response is, “Did I kill them? Those who killed them must be held accountable. I haven’t hurt a fly.” The fact that a truth this fundamental has been so deeply buried in the language of “complexity” and “conflict” is a testament to the commitment and breadth of the imperialist narrative disseminated by Israel, the US and Germany (and the West in general).

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024 ... liberation

This is the same problem here in Zio/America .....

 
 

Tempest62 » 01 Mar 2024, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 10:26 am

I agree with you Vegas.

Israel’s killing rage

A familiar pantomime plays out in the shocking residue of the massacre of more than 100 desperate Palestinian aid seekers.

 Another day, another outrage.That is the inevitable lot of Palestinians in the grim, dystopian wasteland that is Gaza.

 It is inevitable because it does not matter the scale, nature or manner of the outrages, Palestinians have been, and always will be, considered disposable human fodder by Israel’s army of unrepentant enablers and apologists.They are, of course, hard at work trying, as they are conditioned to do, to find an explanation, an excuse, a rationale to absolve Israel of responsibility for the crimes against humanity that it has committed with impunity in Gaza and beyond.In their myopic calculus, Israel is never to blame, never responsible, never the perpetrator, never guilty. To admit that Israel is to blame, responsible, the perpetrator or guilty, would mean, in effect, admitting their guilt too.The usual pallet of lies, distortions, and obfuscations is being deployed, on cue, by the usual suspects in the usual capitals and newsrooms to deny or obscure the obvious.Blindness is a necessary extension of their complicity. They refuse to see what the rest of us can see. Their evangelical allegiance to Israel trumps the truth and decency. It always has. It always will.This, by now, familiar pantomime is playing out in the shocking residue of a massacre of more than 100 desperate Palestinians who surged at aid trucks carrying the stuff of life denied to them by a fanatical regime intent on killing them quickly or slowly.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024 ... lling-rage

 
 

Majik » 01 Mar 2024, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 11:40 am

German memory culture, anti-Semitic Zionists and Palestinian liberationGermany’s much lauded ‘memory culture’ is pure, empty, self-congratulatory propaganda.

 I am a Jewish pro-Palestine solidarity activist originally from the New York area and now based in Berlin. My grandmother was a Holocaust survivor from Cologne who fled to the United States during the Second World War at the age of 16. Her parents and much of her family were murdered during the Holocaust. I came “back” to Germany about five years ago, a decision born largely out of the desire for intergenerational healing for me and for my grandmother, who was alive at the time. I learned German and was able to speak to her in her native language in the last few years of her life. I told her stories about living in Germany, she met some of my friends and she was grateful for the ways in which the country and its people had apparently evolved and atoned for their ugly history.I am glad she died before I had the opportunity to recognise what a naive, idealistic delusion this was.

 In the past few years as I have educated myself, become active in the movement for Palestinian liberation and extracted myself from the extreme Zionist conditioning and brainwashing baked into the fabric of my upbringing, my appreciation for German “Erinnerungskultur” (“memory culture”) has steeply devolved into the realisation that the entire concept is pure, empty, self-congratulatory propaganda. It is grounded in the intentional, racist displacement of anti-Semitism and responsibility for the Holocaust from the Germans who perpetuated it to the Arabs, Muslims and, above all, the Palestinians, who they now demonise and scapegoat as a deflection and distraction.A documentary from 1985, Ma’loul Celebrates Its Destruction, provides an account of the destruction of entire villages during the 1948 Nakba. In it, an interviewer says to a Palestinian man who was displaced: “But they killed six million Jews.” His rightful response is, “Did I kill them? Those who killed them must be held accountable. I haven’t hurt a fly.” The fact that a truth this fundamental has been so deeply buried in the language of “complexity” and “conflict” is a testament to the commitment and breadth of the imperialist narrative disseminated by Israel, the US and Germany (and the West in general).

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024 ... liberation

This is the same problem here in Zio/America .....

Good post, Majik. Israel has brainwashed the US as much as anyone else. 

Vegas » 01 Mar 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 10:18 am

The logic and facts just aren't on Israel's side. Sorry...Not sorry. 

1. Claim: Jews have historical claim on that land. 

• Two problems: 1) Irrelevant.  That was history, this is now. If we are going to go off that logic, then shouldn't America be given back to the Native Americans? 2) A good percentage of Jews in Israel don't even have a pure lineage to their ancestors. A huge chunk of their population are not full on Jews. They are muts like everyone else. Hell, I can convert to Judaism. So, if I convert, then move to Israel, that magically means I have historical claim to that land? 

                2. Claim: Israel are the victims.

•  How come people never ask why the Palis shoot rockets at them? They always step ahead and look at how Israel got rockets up their ***, as if it was for no reason whatsoever. I guess the Palis are just bored, so to pass the time, over the past several decades,  they shoot rockets over there. Palis are the ones retaliating, not Israel. Israel drew first blood the moment they were handed land with a big bow on top. Since then, Israel has been stealing the Pali's land through all sorts of different illegal tactics. You just don't see it, because their sleazy tactics don't involve the military. But they steal it. 

In conclusion, Israel makes for good ball lickers. Please stand in line if you want to tea bag them.

Wait, I thought Israelis are going to lick MY balls. I'm ok with that. NOT the reverse!!!  Oh, and a 3-some is not 2 guys and 1 girl - just saying....for some people here.....who don't understand this......like @murdock.  

Vegas » 01 Mar 2024, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 11:46 am

Good post, Majik. Israel has brainwashed the US as much as anyone else.

It makes me wonder how many True Christians are left in America that have not been subverted by the Zionist/Satanists. ...


 

Skans » 01 Mar 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 11:51 am

Wait, I thought Israelis are going to lick MY balls. I'm ok with that. NOT the reverse!!!  Oh, and a 3-some is not 2 guys and 1 girl - just saying....for some people here.....who don't understand this......like @murdock.  

Keep sucking Zionist Cock.....
and you will end up just like the Palestinians .....
 

Majik » 01 Mar 2024, 11:52 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 11:52 am

It makes me wonder how many True Christians are left in America that have not been subverted by the Zionist/Satanists. ...

I don't know if it's laziness or just willful ignorance. People don't like to challenge the status quo. 

Vegas » 01 Mar 2024, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 11:56 am

I don't know if it's laziness or just willful ignorance. People don't like to challenge the status quo.

Cowardice ....