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Cannonpointer » 04 Mar 2024, 1:51 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 1:51 pm

In truth, if Trump had lost, he'd have gotten zero of Colorado's electoral votes. 

Instead, he won. And he will receive zero of Colorado's electoral votes. 

This is just reality teevee to keep us distracted.

Every two-bit state was already following Colorado's example to keep Trump off the Ballot.  The win does 2 things:

• It keeps a wave of trump election deniers from continuing this underhanded strategy of using legal trickery to deny Americans the right to vote; and
• It validates Trump's assertions that Democrats have been using dirty legal tricks to suppress Trump Voters.

HUGE win for Trump and the American People.  And, it exposes Democrats as the election-crooks they really are.
 
 
 

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 2:54 pm

Every two-bit state was already following Colorado's example to keep Trump off the Ballot.  The win does 2 things:

• It keeps a wave of trump election deniers from continuing this underhanded strategy of using legal trickery to deny Americans the right to vote; and
• It validates Trump's assertions that Democrats have been using dirty legal tricks to suppress Trump Voters.

HUGE win for Trump and the American People.  And, it exposes Democrats as the election-crooks they really are.

It also made beevee's ****** bleed. 

He had invested a great deal of energy in pre-preening about the sure-thing decision he expected. 

His post-decision preening plans have been put on hold.

He will be frenching his boyfriend vigorously tonight, looking for a hard consolation buggering. 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Mar 2024, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 3:36 pm

It also made beevee's ****** bleed. 

He had invested a great deal of energy in pre-preening about the sure-thing decision he expected. 

His post-decision preening plans have been put on hold.

He will be frenching his boyfriend vigorously tonight, looking for a hard consolation buggering.
 

That's just an ugly picture.....

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 3:43 pm

That's just an ugly picture.....

What can I tell ya - he's a man's man.       
 

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 2:54 pm

Every two-bit state was already following Colorado's example to keep Trump off the Ballot.  The win does 2 things:

• It keeps a wave of trump election deniers from continuing this underhanded strategy of using legal trickery to deny Americans the right to vote; and
• It validates Trump's assertions that Democrats have been using dirty legal tricks to suppress Trump Voters.

HUGE win for Trump and the American People.  And, it exposes Democrats as the election-crooks they really are.

And not to step over this, Maine is one of those states. It is also one of two states that allow split electors. Trump TOOK the red elector in 2016 AND in 2020. So if Maine had succeeded, that is ONE elector right there. Then there is the possibility of left wing groups getting Trump off the ballot in right wing states. 

So, yeah - it was important. I dismiss it as thayatah because it never had a prayer. But like yourself, I would imagine, I left room for the crooked system to go full Augusto Pinochet. 
 
 

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 1:07 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 1:07 pm

It will be interesting to see if the Democrats still try to keep Trump off ballots, despite the Supreme Court ruling.

               The same assholes who cry "count every vote" (just Democrat Votes) attempting to disenfranchise Millions of American citizens from Voting,.

Kobia2 » 04 Mar 2024, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 3:50 pm

               The same assholes who cry "count every vote" (just Democrat Votes) attempting to disenfranchise Millions of American citizens from Voting,.

They are conscious of their hypocrisy - and they think their correctness justifies it. 

That is the power of the cult. 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Mar 2024, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 3:49 pm

And not to step over this, Maine is one of those states. It is also one of two states that allow split electors. Trump TOOK the red elector in 2016 AND in 2020. So if Maine had succeeded, that is ONE elector right there. Then there is the possibility of left wing groups getting Trump off the ballot in right wing states. 

So, yeah - it was important. I dismiss it as thayatah because it never had a prayer. But like yourself, I would imagine, I left room for the crooked system to go full Augusto Pinochet.

I was very surprised at the 9-0 decision.  I can't even imagine how that came about.
 

Kobia2 » 04 Mar 2024, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 3:50 pm

               The same assholes who cry "count every vote" (just Democrat Votes) attempting to disenfranchise Millions of American citizens from Voting,.

If Elections were hockey, the Democrats would be benched for the next few election cycles.
 
 

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 3:55 pm

I was very surprised at the 9-0 decision.  I can't even imagine how that came about.

           I'm looking forward to seeing CNN & MSNBC's report on this tonight......   I can't imagine the prayers & offerings they are making on the Altar to the Spin Gods in preparation for this evenings broadcast..  

Kobia2 » 04 Mar 2024, 4:07 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 4:07 pm

           I'm looking forward to seeing CNN & MSNBC's report on this tonight......   I can't imagine the prayers & offerings they are making on the Altar to the Spin Gods in preparation for this evenings broadcast..  

"DEMOCRATS WON'T BE PHASED BY THE SUPREME COURT DECISION
TRUMP WON'T GET ANY OF THOSE STATES ANYWAY"

"BUT THIS IS WHY I TELL JOE BIDEN WE NEED TO PACK THE COURTS
JOE, LISTEN TO ME PACK THE DAMN COURTS
YOU F-ING MORON!!!"

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 3:55 pm

I was very surprised at the 9-0 decision.  I can't even imagine how that came about.

I've looked at it out of the side of my eyes, trying to catch in my peripheral what my dead eye cannot perceive.

One theory I am toying with is that this would open the door to republicans removing the diaper baby from the ballot, on the basis of his insurrections on the border, and through fauci, and through weaponizing the DOJ, and through secreting away classified documents that no VP had a right to, and through any of a dozen other things that they could just DECIDE is insurrection and then go judge-shopping. 

Then too, it could be there is still JUST enough WASP element left in DC to consider appearances. WASPs are decidedly against being seen on the global stage as the political equivalent of Bolivians. 

I am not in any way convinced that the Justices are independent actors. There are voices to which they answer - potentially with their lives and certainly with their fortunes. I believe they turned roe around for reasons other than jurisprudence. It was political - to keep the democrat and republican parties together. The republicans needed a win after that stolen election, or they were going to start something new and vigorous - something not easily headed off in a short window. And if the republicans split, trust and believe the dems would, too. The progressive wing of the dem party is every bit as dissatisfied with their leadership as the conservative wing of the republican party is with theirs. Abortion has been a stalwart issue in keeping all the parties' ducks in a row. 

But at the end of the day, I'm bowled over by the unanimity. I'm letting it steep before I can fit it into my Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory - which also involves aliens.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Mar 2024, 4:16 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 4:16 pm

I've looked at it out of the side of my eyes, trying to catch in my peripheral what my dead eye cannot perceive.

One theory I am toying with is that this would open the door to republicans removing the diaper baby from the ballot, on the basis of his insurrections on the border, and through fauci, and through weaponizing the DOJ, and through secreting away classified documents that no VP had a right to, and through any of a dozen other things that they could just DECIDE is insurrection and then go judge-shopping. 

Then too, it could be there is still JUST enough WASP element left in DC to consider appearances. WASPs are decidedly against being seen on the global stage as the political equivalent of Bolivians. 

I am not in any way convinced that the Justices are independent actors. There are voices to which they answer - potentially with their lives and certainly with their fortunes. I believe they turned roe around for reasons other than jurisprudence. It was political - to keep the democrat and republican parties together. The republicans needed a win after that stolen election, or they were going to start something new and vigorous - something not easily headed off in a short window. And if the republicans split, trust and believe the dems would, too. The progressive wing of the dem party is every bit as dissatisfied with their leadership as the conservative wing of the republican party is with theirs. Abortion has been a stalwart issue in keeping all the parties' ducks in a row. 

But at the end of the day, I'm bowled over by the unanimity. I'm letting it steep before I can fit it into my Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory - which also involves aliens.
 

Ok, I'm with you through the end of your 2nd paragraph.  While these things are not decided in a vacuum, they are decided in the vacuum of the Supreme Court, with all of its justices and staff attorneys working for the justices.  I think some of the conservatives, behind the scenes, made convincing arguments to the leftist judges to convince them to jump on board, or be marginalized as irrelevant, political hacks.
 

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 11:29 am

Huge win for Trump today.  The Supreme Court unanimously, not even split on this issue, sides with Trump on Democrats engaging in election interference and trying to remove him from Ballots. 

I haven't read the decision yet - - will have to see what they said.

Here's a link to the actual decision.  https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/2 ... 9_19m2.pdf

But they didn't side with Trump, they sided against the unprecedented practice Colorado did like you said any candidate for president of the USA. States can do what every they want for instate elections to any level of representatives in that state.

But President is separate issue since it includes all 50 states and territories allowed to vote.

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 4:28 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 4:28 pm

Ok, I'm with you through the end of your 2nd paragraph.  While these things are not decided in a vacuum, they are decided in the vacuum of the Supreme Court, with all of its justices and staff attorneys working for the justices.  I think some of the conservatives, behind the scenes, made convincing arguments to the leftist judges to convince them to jump on board, or be marginalized as irrelevant, political hacks.

That is certainly possible. 

I have a darker view of the levers of power in the alien jurisdiction that is DC.
 

31stArrival » 04 Mar 2024, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 4:30 pm

But they didn't side with Trump, they sided against the unprecedented practice Colorado did like you said any candidate for president of the USA. States can do what every they want for instate elections to any level of representatives in that state.

But President is separate issue since it includes all 50 states and territories allowed to vote.

Trump was the object of the case, and to that extent they ruled in Trump's favor.  The court accepted Trump's arguments against the illegal action taken by Colorado.  I agree with you that the court unanimously sided against the unprecedented practice of Colorado's contorted process for eliminating Trump from its ballot. 

So, when I say the court sided with Trump, what I am actually saying is the court sided with Trump's legal position on the matter. (Also, there may be a bit of sensationalism in my headline.) Your comment is noted and accepted.
 
 

Skans » 04 Mar 2024, 4:40 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 4:40 pm

Trump was the object of the case, and to that extent they ruled in Trump's favor.  The court accepted Trump's arguments against the illegal action taken by Colorado.  I agree with you that the court unanimously sided against the unprecedented practice of Colorado's contorted process for eliminating Trump from its ballot. 

So, when I say the court sided with Trump, what I am actually saying is the court sided with Trump's legal position on the matter. (Also, there may be a bit of sensationalism in my headline.) Your comment is noted and accepted.
 
 

interpretation only. Everyone has their own opinion since their conceived brain is the nucleus of their fertilized cell being the organ of the central nervous system a body wrapped around since conception making every lifetime with a brain unique, just like their chromosomes.

Cannonpointer » 04 Mar 2024, 1:51 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 1:51 pm

In truth, if Trump had lost, he'd have gotten zero of Colorado's electoral votes. 

Instead, he won. And he will receive zero of Colorado's electoral votes. 

This is just reality teevee to keep us distracted.

He'll get all the primary delegates. 
 

golfboy » 04 Mar 2024, 7:22 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Mar 2024, 7:22 pm

He'll get all the primary delegates.

You sure as **** got that right. 

Haley at last count had 24 to Trump's 120. 
 

does not mater. usa is dead meat. rotten. go to any usa federal building. stinks like rotten meat. no money to clean the toilets. avoid all contact with all government employees. could be violent when the people take back their nation.