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Tax payed tuition with stipulations
Tax payed tuition with stipulations
By Vegas
5 Mar 2024 10:22 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
5 Mar 2024 10:42 am
There was a show back years ago called "Northern Exposure" that was about a recently graduated med student that was paying off his student debt by working in an underserved area in Alaska for several years.Vegas » 05 Mar 2024, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑ I have always advocated for free college tuition, but with stipulations. Only degrees that are useful and only for serious students.
Useful degrees include:Non-useful degrees:
- STEM related
- Professional service related: Lawyers, doctors, teachers, etc...
Serious students
- Most liberal arts degrees. Not all, but most
- Degrees that have no business being degrees in the first place such as: philosophy, mythology, 19th century Russian studies (LOL), etc..
This is tricky, because you don't really know who is serious until they get in and prove it. A lot of people can put on a good act, but then when they perform, you see that they were full of ****. Kind of like people who lie on their resume or are good at job interviews, but suck in real life. However, there should be some kind of rigorous process to weed out the ****.
An educated populace has no drawbacks. Seriously, what negatives go along with having most of society being able to to think? That would scare the **** out of our leaders, but how would that negatively impact society? I can't think of one drawback to living in an educated populace. Not one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure
I could would have no problems with "stipulations" like that.
It was a pretty good show from what I recall too.
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5 Mar 2024 10:42 am
something to help a person make a good living would be worth the investmentVegas » 05 Mar 2024, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑ Anything that will induce an educated and skilled populace is what I meant.
5 Mar 2024 10:43 am
RedheadedStranger » 05 Mar 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑ There was a show back years ago called "Northern Exposure" that was about a recently graduated med student that was paying off his student debt by working in an underserved area in Alaska for several years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure
I could would have no problems with "stipulations" like that.
It was a pretty good show from what I recall too.
I remember that show, it was good.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 10:45 am
this is basically the difference between having intelligent people knowing how to construct a reliable jet engine versus not. I do not think it can offer any assistance in curing pathological behavior that is basically caused by bad genetics...and that is the main cause of having a high prison population. Only a eugenics policy can help with such things.
5 Mar 2024 10:47 am
FOS » 05 Mar 2024, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑ this is basically the difference between having intelligent people knowing how to construct a reliable jet engine versus not. I do not think it can offer any assistance in curing pathological behavior that is basically caused by bad genetics...and that is the main cause of having a high prison population. Only a eugenics policy can help with such things.
Genetics play a role, but I doubt that there is a large percentage of the population whose lack of self-control is dedicated solely to their genetics. Yes, there are definitely some, but I can't imagine that it's a huge percentage.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 10:48 am
It is at least 80%. Check how often violent criminals had parents who were violent criminals.Vegas » 05 Mar 2024, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑ Genetics play a role, but I doubt that there is a large percentage of the population whose lack of self-control is dedicated solely to their genetics. Yes, there are definitely some, but I can't imagine that it's a huge percentage.
5 Mar 2024 10:49 am
FOS » 05 Mar 2024, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ It is at least 80%. Check how often violent criminals had parents who were violent criminals.
80% of the prison population?
Yes, I know that upbringing is a factor. I also believe that the more educated a person is, then the faster their maturity will be, along with a better sense of self-control.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 10:51 am
**** that. Will the taxpayers get a portion of their income until everything is reimbursed...in addition to their income tax liabilities? Why should others pay for something will benefit you (generic you) for the rest of your life. If you want and education, pay for it.
5 Mar 2024 10:54 am
ConsRule » 05 Mar 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑ **** that. Will the taxpayers get a portion of their income until everything is reimbursed...in addition to their income tax liabilities? Why should others pay for something will benefit you (generic you) for the rest of your life. If you want and education, pay for it.
Do you ask this same question after we spend our taxes to Ukraine, Israel, foreign aid, and any useless war we get ourselves into?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 10:55 am
Well if you are all about individual agency then just go start your own country lol. You are arguing with emotion and your own arbitrary ethical constructs, not with an objective attempt to actually solve problems.ConsRule » 05 Mar 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑ **** that. Will the taxpayers get a portion of their income until everything is reimbursed...in addition to their income tax liabilities? Why should others pay for something will benefit you (generic you) for the rest of your life. If you want and education, pay for it.
5 Mar 2024 11:01 am
AJ has been in the box for over a week... give him a few minutes to adjust to the light.Vegas » 05 Mar 2024, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑ So far you have only responded with emojis and have no intelligent thoughts. You have proven my OP.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
5 Mar 2024 11:02 am
RedheadedStranger » 05 Mar 2024, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑ AJ has been in the box for over a week... give him a few minutes to adjust to the light.
He is another dumb libatrd here. He doesn't have an intelligent thoughts in his mind.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 11:08 am
Vegas » 05 Mar 2024, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑ 80% of the prison population?
Yes, I know that upbringing is a factor. I also believe that the more educated a person is, then the faster their maturity will be, along with a better sense of self-control.
you are simply making scientific claims based on how you 'feel' about it...when there is an abundance of actual empirical data and studies and literally genetics science that could actually provide information on the subject. Yes it is well known that the propensity for violent crime is extremely heritable...Indeed the particular kind of violent crime is. Rapists tend to spawn rapists, murderers spawn murderers, etc. The impact of education or indeed ANY sort of environment has minimal impact. The largest environmental impact would be brain damage or serious illness...or perhaps a regimen of medication. But even a regimen of medication is not nearly as much influence as simply which genes you have.
5 Mar 2024 11:13 am
FOS » 05 Mar 2024, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑ you are simply making scientific claims based on how you 'feel' about it...when there is an abundance of actual empirical data and studies and literally genetics science that could actually provide information on the subject. Yes it is well known that the propensity for violent crime is extremely heritable...Indeed the particular kind of violent crime is. Rapists tend to spawn rapists, murderers spawn murderers, etc. The impact of education or indeed ANY sort of environment has minimal impact. The largest environmental impact would be brain damage or serious illness...or perhaps a regimen of medication. But even a regimen of medication is not nearly as much influence as simply which genes you have.
There is science that supports both views. I can give you data after data, and mountains of studies, that show high crime rate is related to low education level. That is no secret, it's not hard to find that. I also know that what you are saying has been proven also. I just think that you are only discussing a small portion of our society. Yes, we have violent people whose violence can be traced genetically. Ok. And? The percentage isn't high compared to the rest of the population. So who cares?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 11:14 am
5 Mar 2024 11:16 am
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 11:17 am
5 Mar 2024 11:18 am
You don't know anything, shut up.
What's survivorship bias?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
5 Mar 2024 11:19 am
Well if you want to solve the problem of incarceration rates this all becomes very relevant. Close to 100% of the people in prison for violent crime were genetically at risk for it. The correlation between education and crime is simply epiphenomenological. People with low impulse control will also lack the patience to educate themselves. No amount of money thrown at your education system could possibly tweak that to any meaningful degree.Vegas » 05 Mar 2024, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑ There is science that supports both views. I can give you data after data, and mountains of studies, that show high crime rate is related to low education level. That is no secret, it's not hard to find that. I also know that what you are saying has been proven also. I just think that you are only discussing a small portion of our society. Yes, we have violent people whose violence can be traced genetically. Ok. And? The percentage isn't high compared to the rest of the population. So who cares?
5 Mar 2024 11:21 am
Vegas » 05 Mar 2024, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑ You don't know anything, shut up.
What's survivorship bias?
Listen to FOS. He knows!
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