Why do you say or not say the pledge of allegiance?

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12 Mar 2024 11:32 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Education is my line of work. When I see k-12 say the pledge, I often ask what the point is. They are just memorizing words and then reciting them. I can see in their faces that they have no clue what the hell they are even saying. It's just something they are supposed to do. Likewise, I have known people who wont say it. However, they have no clue as to why they wont. It's just to get attention, to be different. 

As for me, I say it because I still believe there is hope that America can change for the better. We have come a long way since 1776. We are still an infant compared to most of the world. Yet look how far we have come with respect to human rights, technology, medicine, and education. Our evils run deep. Really deep. They still do. However, I still believe that we have the ability to change for the better. America changes rapidly. America is not the same country as it was in 2010, and in 2010 it was not the same in 2000, and in 1990..etc...How many other countries can conform to change that easily? 

So why do you say it or choose not to say it? 
 
 
 
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I love this country, so I say it freely. Kids are open slates, they should be taught to love their country at a young age. Get the America hating liberals out of the school system.
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And @Bidencrimefamily  , if you can't give an answer without including your TDS, then your post will be cast into the PG. 

 
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12 Mar 2024 11:37 am
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In my later adult years I will not pledge to a flag. The pledge was written by a socialist.
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PhiloBeddo » 12 Mar 2024, 11:32 am » wrote: I love this country, so I say it freely. Kids are open slates, they should be taught to love their country at a young age. Get the America hating liberals out of the school system.
You should talk to Sumela. He’s on record laughing at America and hating the people. He’s absolutely rock solid on loving Russia and communist China.
 
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Tempest62 » 12 Mar 2024, 11:37 am » wrote: In my later adult years I will not pledge to a flag. The pledge was written by a socialist.

I didn't know that. I should research it. Nonetheless, I still think America can change. Some countries are still the same today as they were 2000 years ago, just with running water...that we built for them. We change from decade to decade. 
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Vegas » 12 Mar 2024, 11:40 am » wrote: I didn't know that. I should research it. Nonetheless, I still think America can change. Some countries are still the same today as they were 2000 years ago, just with running water...that we built for them. We change from decade to decade.
I agree with you.

Look up socialist Francis Bellamy. 
 
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PhiloBeddo » 12 Mar 2024, 11:32 am » wrote: I love this country, so I say it freely. Kids are open slates, they should be taught to love their country at a young age. Get the America hating liberals out of the school system.
Exactly they need to be taught blind allegiance no matter what. Indoctrination is key. 
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Vegas » 12 Mar 2024, 11:22 am » wrote: Education is my line of work. When I see k-12 say the pledge, I often ask what the point is. They are just memorizing words and then reciting them. I can see in their faces that they have no clue what the hell they are even saying. It's just something they are supposed to do. Likewise, I have known people who wont say it. However, they have no clue as to why they wont. It's just to get attention, to be different. 

As for me, I say it because I still believe there is hope that America can change for the better. We have come a long way since 1776. We are still an infant compared to most of the world. Yet look how far we have come with respect to human rights, technology, medicine, and education. Our evils run deep. Really deep. They still do. However, I still believe that we have the ability to change for the better. America changes rapidly. America is not the same country as it was in 2010, and in 2010 it was not the same in 2000, and in 1990..etc...How many other countries can conform to change that easily? 

So why do you say it or choose not to say it?
I say- say it. Does no harm for them. Good training.  It respects the country. instills decency-

That's what pizzes me off over the idiots who take the knee. Hate that. Show  respect for the country- Does no harm. But no. They forget its our country and the sports here- giving them - their spoiled million dollar salaries. :wave:  
 
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Vegas » 12 Mar 2024, 11:22 am » wrote: Education is my line of work. When I see k-12 say the pledge, I often ask what the point is. They are just memorizing words and then reciting them. I can see in their faces that they have no clue what the hell they are even saying. It's just something they are supposed to do. Likewise, I have known people who wont say it. However, they have no clue as to why they wont. It's just to get attention, to be different. 

As for me, I say it because I still believe there is hope that America can change for the better. We have come a long way since 1776. We are still an infant compared to most of the world. Yet look how far we have come with respect to human rights, technology, medicine, and education. Our evils run deep. Really deep. They still do. However, I still believe that we have the ability to change for the better. America changes rapidly. America is not the same country as it was in 2010, and in 2010 it was not the same in 2000, and in 1990..etc...How many other countries can conform to change that easily? 

So why do you say it or choose not to say it?

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12 Mar 2024 12:06 pm
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It all has to do with respect. Today most Dem and lib kids are raised with none. It's disgusting. A kid talking back is terrible disrespect.
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12 Mar 2024 12:11 pm
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Ya know way back in the day..

I just stood up at my desk every morning..

Teacher asked us "Stand Up" hand over our hearts .

Then Mr. Waller the Principal would get on the PA System also school news & announcements..

Anyways back then ya just stood up and looked at the Flag
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12 Mar 2024 12:17 pm
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Let me tell ya something too..

When I was "Growing Up" ya were "Proud" be American..

Ya didn't question your teacher & principal..

No ya Said The "Pledge" Period
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Vegas » 12 Mar 2024, 11:22 am » wrote: Education is my line of work. When I see k-12 say the pledge, I often ask what the point is. They are just memorizing words and then reciting them. I can see in their faces that they have no clue what the hell they are even saying. It's just something they are supposed to do. Likewise, I have known people who wont say it. However, they have no clue as to why they wont. It's just to get attention, to be different. 

As for me, I say it because I still believe there is hope that America can change for the better. We have come a long way since 1776. We are still an infant compared to most of the world. Yet look how far we have come with respect to human rights, technology, medicine, and education. Our evils run deep. Really deep. They still do. However, I still believe that we have the ability to change for the better. America changes rapidly. America is not the same country as it was in 2010, and in 2010 it was not the same in 2000, and in 1990..etc...How many other countries can conform to change that easily? 

So why do you say it or choose not to say it?
I say the pledge when appropriate.  From an early age, I was taught the meaning of it, and think about its meaning when I recite it.  I say it because I am an American.  For better or for worse, this is my country and I have none other.
 
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Bidencrimefamily » 12 Mar 2024, 11:49 am » wrote: Exactly they need to be taught blind allegiance no matter what. Indoctrination is key.
Right,  you turned out OK.
 
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PhiloBeddo » 12 Mar 2024, 12:06 pm » wrote: It all has to do with respect. Today most Dem and lib kids are raised with none. It's disgusting. A kid talking back is terrible disrespect.
An old lady told me one time. I always listen to the elders- not that I'm young- but these people are fossils. LOL
I asked one time- what is wrong with the world Virginia? .
She said Cyndi- there is no excellence. No one cares about their work- doing things right- The flag anything!
It's a very rare thing to run into folks that do!  I think this is part of that.... or we are done.
 
 
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RebelGator » 12 Mar 2024, 12:27 pm » wrote: Right,  you turned out OK.
No he didn't.  @Bidencrimefamily  is a dick.  He needs to be reintegrated with his ***-raping family in Managua.
 
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The pledge is a reminder that we have some level of loyalty to our fellow countrymen expected of us.

Illegal alien loving piece of **** traitors like maineman and bcf were just mindlessly "mouthing the words" in class.

All those self serving traitors want is cheap lettuce, cheap home maintenance and MILLIONS OF FUTURE DEMOCRATS to swell their ranks.

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Vegas » 12 Mar 2024, 11:22 am » wrote: Education is my line of work. When I see k-12 say the pledge, I often ask what the point is. They are just memorizing words and then reciting them. I can see in their faces that they have no clue what the hell they are even saying. It's just something they are supposed to do. Likewise, I have known people who wont say it. However, they have no clue as to why they wont. It's just to get attention, to be different. 

As for me, I say it because I still believe there is hope that America can change for the better. We have come a long way since 1776. We are still an infant compared to most of the world. Yet look how far we have come with respect to human rights, technology, medicine, and education. Our evils run deep. Really deep. They still do. However, I still believe that we have the ability to change for the better. America changes rapidly. America is not the same country as it was in 2010, and in 2010 it was not the same in 2000, and in 1990..etc...How many other countries can conform to change that easily? 

So why do you say it or choose not to say it? 
 
 
 
Honest brain doesn't pick corrupted interpretation of life as a greater good scenario forward from here. Educated minds always take sides seeking better tomorrows than life became today.

now what is a yesterday vs tomorrow all about since that combines 3 24 hour rotations to define relative time scenarios to each arriving great great grandchild of ancestry been corrupted for say 300 generation gaps so far. Today is the balance point of total sum past and the beginning of what is left evolving here now.

You don't recognize the decimal point of eternal separation of life per cycle adapting to the moment here in series parallel positions since conceived to replace previous generations?

It isn't supernatural. Life doesn't exceed the whole of what is left between erosion and decomposing results expanding into never duplicated details again.

If words mean things then explain self evident results without reasonable doubt.

I created a graph that can relate to rule of 72 compounding interest yields in one form with optics to 6 degrees of separating from a 7th position as eternally separated between 3 generation gaps changing population today or any rotation of the planet ever happened with or without homo sapien species. https://i.postimg.cc/ydBbJs7J/Picture-63.jpg
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