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Sumela » 12 Mar 2024, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 1:08 pm

https://youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM

**** YOU

Tempest62 » 12 Mar 2024, 3:57 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 3:57 pm

**** YOU

 
 

I "Pledge" Alligence 2 the Flag of The United States Or America..

To The "Republic" 4 which it stands One Nation Under God "Indivisible " with Liberty & Justice 4 All..

So Simple & may I please "Ask" What's wrong with that"

Used be something was not "Questioned" ..

Today it's a Big Old "Debate" but WHY
 

I used to say it at school every day

But now the “liberty and justice for all” part seems a bit hollow

Like the national anthem

Bunch of gibberish about war sprinkled with question marks

Quaint IMO

Nope we don't "appreciate" this Nation a "Republic" actually..

Nope forget about all "Our Ancestors" who served in Army make sure we still got this..

Nope gotta buncha "Coastal" Degeneration now .

At school they worry about who's going 2 bathrooms..

Ya know something else too at the Hospital..

Personally asked me if I "prefer" He or Hims and make ya sign a paper too they respect "Titles"..

Then the Nurse Lady doing my blood test came out called me by my "Middle" Name..

Then she told me likes her middle name better so she just calls people that way..

"Baloney"

People know me call me by my "1st" Name..

Two If By Tea » 12 Mar 2024, 4:33 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 4:33 pm

I "Pledge" Alligence 2 the Flag of The United States Or America..

To The "Republic" 4 which it stands One Nation Under God "Indivisible " with Liberty & Justice 4 All..

So Simple & may I please "Ask" What's wrong with that"

Used be something was not "Questioned" ..

Today it's a Big Old "Debate" but WHY
 

Compare the 10 Commandments against 10 Bill of rights by the Magna Carta against the first 10 amendments to the US Constitution 16 months after the original was ratified the first time?

the answer you seek is in those 30 social governances of ancestry never same population twice any generation gap lived between the 4 events 4th being current events.

I dont...and I think the usa was basically built on lies. At this point, the internal contradictions of the usa are catching up with us. And this country being built on lots is essentially poison fruit from the poison tree.

a classic example is Thomas Jefferson saying 'all men are created equal'...obviously he was lying and he didn't believe it himself. He owned human slaves. He believed that black people basically required white people to think and make decisions for them...because black people on their own would simply fail at life. So the whole premise was not only wrong...it also wasn't what the founders believed themselves. Obviously what they MEANT was that they were equal to the king. But they didn't say that. And when you don't say what you mean then you can get caught in quite a tangled web of deception.

The people who live in the usa can be good people. But the whole American project was doomed to fail from the start...and doomed to degenerate into an empire of lies. We really need to cast off that history and create a new future where people are sincere about what they want.

Get outta my Country then..

I heard Cuba & North Korea don't charge income taxes..

Ya people might be "Happier" someplace like that .

This is "America" like or lump it take it down the road & dump it..

But don't ya "Dare" be talking "Disrespectful" the Nation I was "Born & Raised" and Still "Love" even if our Society is being flushed down the toilet

Excuse Me .

I had the "Blessing" & Privilege be Born in The UNITED STATES..

And even if they don't like I'm still a "Citizen" can't just throw me away neither

FOS » 12 Mar 2024, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 4:50 pm

I dont...and I think the usa was basically built on lies. At this point, the internal contradictions of the usa are catching up with us. And this country being built on lots is essentially poison fruit from the poison tree.

a classic example is Thomas Jefferson saying 'all men are created equal'...obviously he was lying and he didn't believe it himself. He owned human slaves. He believed that black people basically required white people to think and make decisions for them...because black people on their own would simply fail at life. So the whole premise was not only wrong...it also wasn't what the founders believed themselves. Obviously what they MEANT was that they were equal to the king. But they didn't say that. And when you don't say what you mean then you can get caught in quite a tangled web of deception.

The people who live in the usa can be good people. But the whole American project was doomed to fail from the start...and doomed to degenerate into an empire of lies. We really need to cast off that history and create a new future where people are sincere about what they want.

A mind following what their body was trained to believe since birth won't accept their brain being unique after 4 years old and that faith will exist until they die regardless leaving an ancestry behind or not. Those adding generation gaps repeat the training every generation forward.

Individual cycles in the circle of life where time doesn't move as anything occupying space is never same details twice cycling in separate generation gaps self evidently sharing the moment equally here conceived to dead.

Here 31 Arrival..

Instead of talking all that technical crap..

Try talking as a "Man" & Human Being okay..

Let's put all "Bull" Aside here get down 2 Basic "Simple" Principals..

Ya know what ya don't even realize this yet but we could be Next Door Neighbors too just reach a "Basic" Understanding

TwoIfByTea » 12 Mar 2024, 4:55 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 4:55 pm

Get outta my Country then..

I heard Cuba & North Korea don't charge income taxes..

Ya people might be "Happier" someplace like that .

This is "America" like or lump it take it down the road & dump it..

But don't ya "Dare" be talking "Disrespectful" the Nation I was "Born & Raised" and Still "Love" even if our Society is being flushed down the toilet

North Korea doesn't have open borders. People cannot simply move there whenever they want like they can to the usa.

FOS » 12 Mar 2024, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 4:50 pm

I dont...and I think the usa was basically built on lies. At this point, the internal contradictions of the usa are catching up with us. And this country being built on lots is essentially poison fruit from the poison tree.

a classic example is Thomas Jefferson saying 'all men are created equal'...obviously he was lying and he didn't believe it himself. He owned human slaves. He believed that black people basically required white people to think and make decisions for them...because black people on their own would simply fail at life. So the whole premise was not only wrong...it also wasn't what the founders believed themselves. Obviously what they MEANT was that they were equal to the king. But they didn't say that. And when you don't say what you mean then you can get caught in quite a tangled web of deception.

The people who live in the usa can be good people. But the whole American project was doomed to fail from the start...and doomed to degenerate into an empire of lies. We really need to cast off that history and create a new future where people are sincere about what they want.

The hypocrisy was known among the founders. They skirted around the slavery vs 'equality for all' issue. They thought that slavery would eventually die out because the slave trade closed at the time. So, they didn't address it. They figured in 20 years it would be obsolete. Obviously they were wrong. 

Two If By Tea » 12 Mar 2024, 5:42 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 5:42 pm

Here 31 Arrival..

Instead of talking all that technical crap..

Try talking as a "Man" & Human Being okay..

Let's put all "Bull" Aside here get down 2 Basic "Simple" Principals..

Ya know what ya don't even realize this yet but we could be Next Door Neighbors too just reach a "Basic" Understanding

Since when is genetic evolving technology? It has always been how biology works naturally not by trying to control space cradle to grave but adapting to time conceived to decomposed cycle of ever changing population existing between inception and extinction of adding another generation gap to each ancestral lineage.

See according to the ten commandments one cannot worship false idols, and country is a false idol. Pledging to country is putting God second to mankind's wishes. Putting loyalty a higher intellectual power isn't obeying rule of law.

It is a psychological circle jerk that has been working without fail for 6,000 to 7,000 years of relative time logistics compared to biological time the species has been evolving ancestrally never same population again other than behaving the same way every added generation.

Only one way that happens, lines of communication directing outcomes of last arriving replacements to repeat previous 4 generations still alive at the same time saving traditional beliefs that keep everyone fighting against perpetual balancing universe.

sootedupCyndi » 12 Mar 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 11:51 am

I say- say it. Does no harm for them. Good training.  It respects the country. instills decency-

That's what pizzes me off over the idiots who take the knee. Hate that. Show  respect for the country- Does no harm. But no. They forget its our country and the sports here- giving them - their spoiled million dollar salaries.

These clowns taking a knee also divide their own team.  You can't build chemistry with tard politics.  Compare the number of Tom Brady super bowl titles versus Colin Kaepernick.  

Bidencrimefamily » 12 Mar 2024, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 11:49 am

Exactly they need to be taught blind allegiance no matter what. Indoctrination is key.

Well you're an Illegal Alien loving POS traitor which is the furthest possible from being loyal to your fellow US Citizens.
Now if you happen to be one of those America Hating Sodomites who takes great pride  walking  around with another man's **** smeared all over his dick...then that would qualify you as a "Libtard POS First Class"......!!!

 
 

Sumela » 12 Mar 2024, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 1:08 pm

https://youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd1HS2Yf7Yw

Look at the history to the Pledge of Allegiance. Didn't need one until after 1885. Gee when was Marxism starting globally? Or should I say global progressivism starting a one world, one language, blah blah blah.

Realities divide ancestries intellectually within a family and between family units each generation gap. People trained to mind ideas life isn't self evident get their instinctive sibling rivalry emotions used against themselves following ideas life exceeds adapting as displaced.

always been this simple. Never trust social identities promising better tomorrows than ancestry achieved so far.

Buyer beware. Sell your sole time to promises of tomorrow, you surrendered your biological time adapting to the moment making ruling elites' dreams reality until extinction or every generation gap changes their mind in the same rotation of the planet.

that or extinction by the end of this decade. That point of no return is present and it was self induced by the species itself.

Vegas » 12 Mar 2024, 8:03 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2024, 8:03 pm

The hypocrisy was known among the founders. They skirted around the slavery vs 'equality for all' issue. They thought that slavery would eventually die out because the slave trade closed at the time. So, they didn't address it. They figured in 20 years it would be obsolete. Obviously they were wrong.

not only did most of them avoid the issue, most of them even partook in the institution. I would not even pearl clutch over slavery itself...I think the slaves here were treated fairly well and I do think most black people tend to be worse off when they are 'free'. Many black people themselves said their life was better as slaves after they were freed (you can read the interviews of former slaves on the .gov website to confirm that)...but what does bother me is the hypocrisy and dishonesty..this country pretended it was appealing to universal values when clearly it was not.

probably the most fatal contradiction in our form of government is that the country promoted democracy which politicizes the masses while also making them more tribal (north vs south voting block caused the civil war)...but simultaneously attempting to promote 'liberalism' which attempts to inspire individualism and individuals competing against individuals. The fact people are constantly pulled in 2 directions between democracy and liberalism is probably the main source of all of our problems. 

I've found that most people virtue signaling about the pledge of allegiance.

Most of the ones that make a big stink about it want to over throw elections when they don't win.