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Senator Ron Johnson has argued that Washington’s foundering proxy war is only making Russia stronger

US President Joe Biden is dragging out an “obviously” lost cause in Ukraine because his administration will not admit to its policy failures in trying to weaken Russia, Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) has claimed.“At some point in time, you have to recognize reality and you have to base your decisions on reality,” Johnson said on Thursday in an interview with podcast host Glenn Greenwald. “But the Biden administration is not willing to do that, the generals aren’t willing to do that, because they’d have to admit they’ve been wrong all along.”Johnson was the only US lawmaker to attend the inauguration of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in May 2019. He said Zelensky wanted to make peace with Russia then, realizing that Kiev had no chance of retaking Crimea, and sought to resolve the conflict shortly after Moscow launched its military offensive in February 2022.
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 Ukraine at ‘serious risk’ of collapse, ex-British general warns“I would like to have been a fly on the wall in Istanbul, when they apparently were negotiating a peace agreement and the Biden administration air-dropped [then-UK Prime Minister] Boris Johnson in there to blow that thing up,” Johnson said. “This was a few weeks after the war started. It’s a tragic, tragic turn of history there.”The third-term lawmaker, who formerly chaired the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said the US government has failed to reflect on its foreign policy failures. For example, he argued, fomenting the overthrow of Ukraine’s elected government in 2014 helped lead to the country’s destruction. He said Americans have been “grossly misserved” by their government’s long history of foreign entanglements and regime-change operations.“The military-industrial complex drives so much of what we’re experiencing here today, the endless wars,” Johnson said. “I can’t tell you how many governments we have, through covert action, we’ve overturned. What’s been the net result of that?”It’s nonsensical for the US government to stand by its stated goal of helping Ukraine to defeat Russian forces, Johnson said. He added, “Part of the problem is that one of the war aims now has shifted. It’s not necessarily to liberate Ukraine but to utilize the Ukrainian people to fight a proxy war with Russia and degrade their military capability.”

 Johnson said the proxy-war strategy had failed: “With oil prices higher, with the sanctions not working to cripple the Russian economy, I think they’re just probably building up their military-industrial base, and if anything, they’re getting stronger and smarter militarily.”Republican lawmakers have held up approval of Biden’s request for over $60 billion in additional Ukraine funding since last fall, but party leaders are reportedly preparing to pass an aid bill in the coming days. Biden is seeking reelection later this year.“It’s just a fantasy, it’s just denying reality, to think that pumping more money, fueling the fire of that bloody stalemate, is going to break this thing open and show that Ukraine can be victorious,” Johnson said.READ MORE: More US Republican senators want Ukraine peace talks – Politico“That’s just not going to happen, 
 
https://www.rt.com/news/595867-biden-ukraine-crisis/

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Majik » 14 Apr 2024, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2024, 12:59 pm

Senator Ron Johnson has argued that Washington’s foundering proxy war is only making Russia stronger

US President Joe Biden is dragging out an “obviously” lost cause in Ukraine because his administration will not admit to its policy failures in trying to weaken Russia, Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) has claimed.“At some point in time, you have to recognize reality and you have to base your decisions on reality,” Johnson said on Thursday in an interview with podcast host Glenn Greenwald. “But the Biden administration is not willing to do that, the generals aren’t willing to do that, because they’d have to admit they’ve been wrong all along.”Johnson was the only US lawmaker to attend the inauguration of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in May 2019. He said Zelensky wanted to make peace with Russia then, realizing that Kiev had no chance of retaking Crimea, and sought to resolve the conflict shortly after Moscow launched its military offensive in February 2022.
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Due to arrogance and hubris, WASH DC thought the UKE PROJECT
would be a walk in the park.

The dumb **** miscalculated everything from start to finish.

Its been glorious to behold.
 

Sumela » 14 Apr 2024, 3:10 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2024, 3:10 pm

Due to arrogance and hubris, WASH DC thought the UKE PROJECT
would be a walk in the park.

The dumb **** miscalculated everything from start to finish.

Its been glorious to behold.

Ron Johnson knows the Truth ....
 Zelensky wanted Peace with Russia until Biden and NATO intervened with false promises  and then Zelensky sold his soul and sold out his country. ....
since Biden became The New MIC/WEF President..... death, destruction, disease, poverty and global destabilization has risen exponentially. ......
Biden may not be Satan .....
But those pulling his strings certainly are Demonic.....




 

Majik » 14 Apr 2024, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2024, 3:45 pm

Ron Johnson knows the Truth ....
 Zelensky wanted Peace with Russia until Biden and NATO intervened with false promises  and then Zelensky sold his soul and sold out his country. ....
since Biden became The New MIC/WEF President..... death, destruction, disease, poverty and global destabilization has risen exponentially. ......
Biden may not be Satan .....
But those pulling his strings certainly are Demonic.....

Are you a recovering solvents addict?

R.Suave » 14 Apr 2024, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2024, 5:38 pm

Are you a recovering solvents addict?

Are you a blind *** whose wife caught you  in bed while getting a blow job from another man .......???....and then ran away to Colombia in disgrace ....???
 

If Israel can shoot down 99% why can’t Ukraine do the same?

Majik » 14 Apr 2024, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2024, 3:45 pm

Ron Johnson knows the Truth ....
 Zelensky wanted Peace with Russia until Biden and NATO intervened with false promises  and then Zelensky sold his soul and sold out his country. ....
since Biden became The New MIC/WEF President..... death, destruction, disease, poverty and global destabilization has risen exponentially. ......
Biden may not be Satan .....
But those pulling his strings certainly are Demonic.....

^^^^^  
 

Majik » 14 Apr 2024, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2024, 12:59 pm

Senator Ron Johnson has argued that Washington’s foundering proxy war is only making Russia stronger

US President Joe Biden is dragging out an “obviously” lost cause in Ukraine because his administration will not admit to its policy failures in trying to weaken Russia, Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) has claimed.“At some point in time, you have to recognize reality and you have to base your decisions on reality,” Johnson said on Thursday in an interview with podcast host Glenn Greenwald. “But the Biden administration is not willing to do that, the generals aren’t willing to do that, because they’d have to admit they’ve been wrong all along.”Johnson was the only US lawmaker to attend the inauguration of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in May 2019. He said Zelensky wanted to make peace with Russia then, realizing that Kiev had no chance of retaking Crimea, and sought to resolve the conflict shortly after Moscow launched its military offensive in February 2022.
Read more
 Ukraine at ‘serious risk’ of collapse, ex-British general warns“I would like to have been a fly on the wall in Istanbul, when they apparently were negotiating a peace agreement and the Biden administration air-dropped [then-UK Prime Minister] Boris Johnson in there to blow that thing up,” Johnson said. “This was a few weeks after the war started. It’s a tragic, tragic turn of history there.”The third-term lawmaker, who formerly chaired the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said the US government has failed to reflect on its foreign policy failures. For example, he argued, fomenting the overthrow of Ukraine’s elected government in 2014 helped lead to the country’s destruction. He said Americans have been “grossly misserved” by their government’s long history of foreign entanglements and regime-change operations.“The military-industrial complex drives so much of what we’re experiencing here today, the endless wars,” Johnson said. “I can’t tell you how many governments we have, through covert action, we’ve overturned. What’s been the net result of that?”It’s nonsensical for the US government to stand by its stated goal of helping Ukraine to defeat Russian forces, Johnson said. He added, “Part of the problem is that one of the war aims now has shifted. It’s not necessarily to liberate Ukraine but to utilize the Ukrainian people to fight a proxy war with Russia and degrade their military capability.”



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Ron Johnson is a **** idiot.

R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 6:23 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 6:23 am

Ron Johnson is a **** idiot.

He spoke the truth .....
And The Truth triggered your conditioned brainwashed *** that is in perpetual denial of that Truth .....





 

Why can’t Ukraine have success rate that Israel had knocking out the Iran bombardment.

BuckNaked » 15 Apr 2024, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 9:18 am

Why can’t Ukraine have success rate that Israel had knocking out the Iran bombardment.

Israel didnt have success.

They TOLD YOU that they had success...

and you....cucked, gulped, and throated that Jew cock.   


 

Majik » 14 Apr 2024, 6:15 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2024, 6:15 pm

Are you a blind *** whose wife caught you  in bed while getting a blow job from another man .......???....and then ran away to Colombia in disgrace ....???

 
 

Sumela » 15 Apr 2024, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 9:46 am

Israel didnt have success.

They TOLD YOU that they had success...

and you....cucked, gulped, and throated that Jew cock.   

Who is they?
 

BuckNaked » 15 Apr 2024, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 9:18 am

Why can’t Ukraine have success rate that Israel had knocking out the Iran bombardment.

What do you mean by success?

Realistically if Iran would not have warned NATO of the Attack days prior and even told them when it would happen ......Israel or it's allies would not have been able to stop the bombardment ....
also without allied support Israel would have suffered catastrophic damage .....
so, saying Israel was successful is not a true statement ....
Once again Israel has proven it cannot fight a real war with a real military opponent .....on it's own....
Which makes them weak ....i
 

Majik » 15 Apr 2024, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 10:15 am

What do you mean by success?

Realistically if Iran would not have warned NATO of the Attack days prior and even told them when it would happen ......Israel or it's allies would not have been able to stop the bombardment ....
also without allied support Israel would have suffered catastrophic damage .....
so, saying Israel was successful is not a true statement ....
Once again Israel has proven it cannot fight a real war with a real military opponent .....on it's own....
Which makes them weak ....i

99% taken out before entering Israel air space great success 
 

BuckNaked » 15 Apr 2024, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 10:13 am

Who is they?

Israel and it's  allies...
Whom are wrongfully stating that Iran was humiliated. ...
When the truth is ....
Without The Iranians giving notice in advance to allow Israel and it's allies to mobilize and prepare .....
a good portion of Israel would have been destroyed ....
and The Hawks in Israel know this too be true even though they are propagating a different story of events ....
 

Majik » 15 Apr 2024, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 10:23 am

Israel and it's  allies...
Whom are wrongfully stating that Iran was humiliated. ...
When the truth is ....
Without The Iranians giving notice in advance to allow Israel and it's allies to mobilize and prepare .....
a good portion of Israel would have been destroyed ....
and The Hawks in Israel know this too be true even though they are propagating a different story of events ....

Still remarkable 99%

BuckNaked » 15 Apr 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 10:18 am

99% taken out before entering Israel air space great success

Maybe in your alternative reality ....
but the fact remains......
IRAN gave them the game plan in advance .....
and if they wouldn't have ....
Netanayhu would have been digging his *** out of rubble .....
 
 

BuckNaked » 15 Apr 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 10:18 am

99% taken out before entering Israel air space great success

haha, *******.  99% of DRONES. 
The cheap drones are decoys.

The cruise missiles made it through and his two air bases.  

Yer *** for Pissrael has made you a CUCK A ROO  
 

Majik » 15 Apr 2024, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 10:27 am

Maybe in your alternative reality ....
but the fact remains......
IRAN gave them the game plan in advance .....
and if they wouldn't have ....
Netanayhu would have been digging his *** out of rubble .....

3-4 hour notice in fact.  It took those cheap, slow Shahed drones hours to 
get to Pissrael.

This was a fantastic, yet measured and restrained attack.

The West is being exposed BIGLY....