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R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:34 pm

Scrub had 8 years, far better reason....and you didn't give a ****.

I did care.
And thankful we finally got him.

However...
You claim Clinton had no reason to kill bin Laden

And that...is **** dumb 
 

@R. Suave  

Just curious....were you working Trade Center Offices of Shearson Lehman American Express when they were attacked the first time?  My uncle and two cousins were. 

Huey » 15 Apr 2024, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:46 pm

@R. Suave  

Just curious....were you working Trade Center Offices of Shearson Lehman American Express when they were attacked the first time?  My uncle and two cousins were.

No..

I left NYC in 89
 

BooRadley » 15 Apr 2024, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:39 pm

I did care.
And thankful we finally got him.

However...
You claim Clinton had no reason to kill bin Laden

And that...is **** dumb

You didn't give a ****.

You rewarded abject failure.

R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:47 pm

No..

I left NYC in 89

I also had a lot of family working in the buildings on 9/11.  If Clinton, who had plenty of reasons to kill him, had done so the building would not have come down on that day.  

Why does the CIA

create so many terrorists?

Why is America so sick and twisted?

R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:48 pm

You didn't give a ****.

You rewarded abject failure.

And you say Clinton had no reason to kill bin Laden.


Do you stand by those words?
 

Huey » 15 Apr 2024, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:49 pm

I also had a lot of family working in the buildings on 9/11.  If Clinton, who had plenty of reasons to kill him, had done so the building would not have come down on that day.

What did George Bush do after receiving his second serious warning of imminent danger to the nation whose protection and defense he had sworn to uphold? According to reporter Ron Suskind, Bush replied to the CIA briefer, "All right. You’ve covered your ***, now," and spent the rest of the day fishing.

https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... -vacation/

From the PBS link:

"Based on evidence developed in its investigation of the 1998 bombings of two American embassies in Africa, the U.S. Justice Department indicted Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda's military commander, Mohammed Atef, on Nov. 4, 1998, for conspiring to kill Americans. "

I can recall that Sudan had backchanneled with the Clinton administration -'94/'95 timeframe - and offered to deport OBL to the US.

Unfortunately, we did not have any evidence to indict OBL. To take custody of a foreign national on foreign soil requires evidence and hateful anti-American speech, and unfounded suspicions of his possible involvement in events in Mogadishu do not constitute"evidence".

Before we COULD get evidence against OBL, he left Sudan and took refuge among the Taliban in Afghanistan. The Taliban never backchanneled or direct channeled or in any other way indicated a willingness to let the US have OBL

Clinton played it by the book, and if he had not, the right would have added another count to his impeachment.
 

BooRadley » 15 Apr 2024, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:52 pm

And you say Clinton had no reason to kill bin Laden.

Do you stand by those words?

Yup.

Al Qaeda's role in the Cole bombing was only confirmed AFTER Clinton left office.
 

maineman » 15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm

From the PBS link:

"Based on evidence developed in its investigation of the 1998 bombings of two American embassies in Africa, the U.S. Justice Department indicted Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda's military commander, Mohammed Atef, on Nov. 4, 1998, for conspiring to kill Americans. "

I can recall that Sudan had backchanneled with the Clinton administration -'94/'95 timeframe - and offered to deport OBL to the US.

Unfortunately, we did not have any evidence to indict OBL. To take custody of a foreign national on foreign soil requires evidence and hateful anti-American speech, and unfounded suspicions of his possible involvement in events in Mogadishu do not constitute"evidence".

Before we COULD get evidence against OBL, he left Sudan and took refuge among the Taliban in Afghanistan. The Taliban never backchanneled or direct channeled or in any other way indicated a willingness to let the US have OBL

Clinton played it by the book, and if he had not, the right would have added another count to his impeachment.

And as bin Laden declared war on America and attacked and murdered hundreds....you say Clinton played it well?
 

R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:54 pm

Yup.

Al Qaeda's role in the Cole bombing was only confirmed AFTER Clinton left office.

Hey brains...
It happened in October 2000.
Clinton was out of office a few weeks later...
 

R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm

What did George Bush do after receiving his second serious warning of imminent danger to the nation whose protection and defense he had sworn to uphold? According to reporter Ron Suskind, Bush replied to the CIA briefer, "All right. You’ve covered your ***, now," and spent the rest of the day fishing.

https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... -vacation/

 

Translation:

Must protect Clinton......at least I can admit Bush made mistakes and the ground war in Iraq was a waste.  YOU can never say anything to criticize your guys.

 

R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm

What did George Bush do after receiving his second serious warning of imminent danger to the nation whose protection and defense he had sworn to uphold? According to reporter Ron Suskind, Bush replied to the CIA briefer, "All right. You’ve covered your ***, now," and spent the rest of the day fishing.

https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... -vacation/

And as bin Laden murdered hundreds you claim Clinton had no reason to kill him?

WTF?


 

R.Suave » 15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:53 pm

What did George Bush do after receiving his second serious warning of imminent danger to the nation whose protection and defense he had sworn to uphold? According to reporter Ron Suskind, Bush replied to the CIA briefer, "All right. You’ve covered your ***, now," and spent the rest of the day fishing.

https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... -vacation/

So tell us..Clinton was warned for 8 years...
And you're complaining about Bush and 8 months?

Huey » 15 Apr 2024, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 12:49 pm

I also had a lot of family working in the buildings on 9/11.  If Clinton, who had plenty of reasons to kill him, had done so the building would not have come down on that day.

Man... if I had a nickel for everyone I've ever met who had a family member die in the World Trade Center towers on 9/11, I'd have a sack of nickels too heavy to lift.

It's like all the "George Washington Slept Here" signs on houses throughout New England.  If THEY were all factual, George never did anything but travel daily to a new B&B for his entire life.
 

maineman » 15 Apr 2024, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 1:01 pm

Man... if I had a nickel for everyone I've ever met who had a family member die in the World Trade Center towers on 9/11, I'd have a sack of nickels too heavy to lift.

It's like all the "George Washington Slept Here" signs on houses throughout New England.  If THEY were all factual, George never did anything but travel daily to a new B&B for his entire life.

Yeah...
Like when Biden said he was there the day after....
Just a lie
 

BooRadley » 15 Apr 2024, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 1:00 pm

So tell us..Clinton was warned for 8 years...
And you're complaining about Bush and 8 months?

Clinton was doing something.

Scrub went fishing.
 

We certainly had reasons to want to bring OBL to trial in the US for his actions. We did indict him in 1998. The problem was we didn't have an extradition treaty with Afghanistan.

Can anyone recall, prior to 9/11, a foreign national who was indicted by a US prosecutor, but was not extraditable, being executed by the US in his or her foreign hidey-hole without due process?

maineman » 15 Apr 2024, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Apr 2024, 1:01 pm

Man... if I had a nickel for everyone I've ever met who had a family member die in the World Trade Center towers on 9/11, I'd have a sack of nickels too heavy to lift.

It's like all the "George Washington Slept Here" signs on houses throughout New England.  If THEY were all factual, George never did anything but travel daily to a new B&B for his entire life.
 

 

Man... if I had a nickel for everyone I've ever met who had a family member die in the World Trade Center towers on 9/11, I'd have a sack of nickels to heavy to lift.

It sucks to be you, moron.  I did not say any of my family died.  They didn't.  I suggest you learn to read before spewing ignorant ****.

On 9/11 two cousins were working in the towers, one was in Building 7, and one worked in the emergency center below the towers.  My other cousin was a cop who was sent there before the towers fell.  And another family member was on the street when the first tower fell.