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In Genesis:

• the animal kingdom and all other life was created before mankind...just like evolution.
• the world wasn't created instantly.....just like evolution.

Why does this have to be an either/or concept? I don't see any contradiction in God using evolution to create mankind. 

And if you are an atheist, then you are going to hell anyway, so nobody cares about you. 

Vegas » 04 May 2024, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 8:53 am

In Genesis:

• the animal kingdom and all other life was created before mankind...just like evolution.
• the world wasn't created instantly.....just like evolution.

Why does this have to be an either/or concept? I don't see any contradiction in God using evolution to create mankind. 

And if you are an atheist, then you are going to hell anyway, so nobody cares about you.

jerrab thinks that God created Domesticated Dogs side by side with full blooded Wolves.
Then one day a Domesticated Dog mated with a wolf and out popped a Border Collie.


 
 

Vegas » 04 May 2024, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 8:53 am

In Genesis:

• the animal kingdom and all other life was created before mankind...just like evolution.
• the world wasn't created instantly.....just like evolution.

Why does this have to be an either/or concept? I don't see any contradiction in God using evolution to create mankind. 

And if you are an atheist, then you are going to hell anyway, so nobody cares about you. 

Evolutionism is intellectual comparing total sum of things evolved into this rotation from now on evolving changes everything present each rotation all things are uniquely timed apart now.

Creationism inventing social realities are sustaining artificial facts about actually evolving as displaced uniquely here each rotation of the planet forward here.

31stArrival » 04 May 2024, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 9:17 am

Evolutionism is intellectual comparing total sum of things evolved into this rotation from now on evolving changes everything present each rotation all things are uniquely timed apart now.

Creationism inventing social realities are sustaining artificial facts about actually evolving as displaced uniquely here each rotation of the planet forward here.

never thought about it that way

tell me more

Mrkelly » 04 May 2024, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 9:39 am

never thought about it that way

tell me more

the longest ignored results in history of governing tomorrows today within this species alone is the existing in common since conceived isn't accepted by any alternate reality protecting humanity's interpretation of life exceeds adapting to space this rotation of the planet.

Common sense sustained by hope, faith, charity, better tomorrows than living became this rotation of the planet, power, wealth, fame comes to those leading people to accept nobody knew evolving cannot exceed thi9s rotation of the planet any next rotation one is adapting as displaced here now.

anything is possible tomorrow when nobody agrees the current rotation of the planet is the only space one's reproductive position lasts occupying space conceived to decomposed corpse.

Vegas » 04 May 2024, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 8:53 am

In Genesis:

• the animal kingdom and all other life was created before mankind...just like evolution.
• the world wasn't created instantly.....just like evolution.

Why does this have to be an either/or concept? I don't see any contradiction in God using evolution to create mankind. 

And if you are an atheist, then you are going to hell anyway, so nobody cares about you.

I've known some pretty intelligent people who firmly believe that God created all creatures exactly as we see them today. 
Not just every species, but every breed, race and sub species.
In their minds evolution is impossible and there is no evidence that living things can gradually evolve, no matter how many years or what the environmental pressures are.
So in their minds there must have been separate Garden of Eden tales for Caucasians, ****** and Mongoloids, since according to the Creationists we were all created by God simultaneously.


 


 

Vegas » 04 May 2024, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 8:53 am

In Genesis:

• the animal kingdom and all other life was created before mankind...just like evolution.
• the world wasn't created instantly.....just like evolution.

Why does this have to be an either/or concept? I don't see any contradiction in God using evolution to create mankind. 

And if you are an atheist, then you are going to hell anyway, so nobody cares about you.

One of the things I always found odd is that creationists always claimed that evolution involved 'chance' or that something jad to randomly occur.

That is not true.

Our best models of physics would actually suggest that it was inevitable. It could have been forseen by the start of the universe combined with the various laws which dictate how particles move around and how energy is transfered.

Thus if some 'god' started the big bang, it would necessarily be intending for life to be a necessary consequence.

Current scientific models basically support a diestic outlook.
 

GHETTO BLASTER » 04 May 2024, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 10:01 am

I've known some pretty intelligent people who firmly believe that God created all creatures exactly as we see them today. 
Not just every species, but every breed, race and sub species.
In their minds evolution is impossible and there is no evidence that living things can gradually evolve, no matter how many years or what the environmental pressures are.
So in their minds there must have been separate Garden of Eden tales for Caucasians, ****** and Mongoloids, since according to the Creationists we were all created by God simultaneously.


 


 

In your evolution theory time changes everything in linear positions beyond adapting to the moment here only on this rotating planet never staying same form as personalized fertilized cell arrived and current shape left each rotation added never same total sum as all previous.

FOS » 04 May 2024, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 10:13 am

Thus if some 'god' started the big bang, it would necessarily be intending for life to be a necessary consequence.

Current scientific models basically support a diestic outlook.

And so, if you believe [as I do] that our universe is eternal, this means that  it never had a beginning, no boundaries  and it can never end.
It is impossible to understand.
If the   Big Bang  had enough force to achieve "Escape Velocity" and be ever-expanding there would be  no way for gravity to eventually win the tug of war and return all matter back to the original "Cosmic Egg" for another Big Bang to occur. 
This would put a wrench into the notion that the Universe is eternal
but....
If ever expanding  Black Holes can act as "janitors" to suck up all the cold, inert matter and consolidate it,  this would bring that matter "back to life" to become more "Cosmic Eggs".
That would  make the  Big Bang Cycle everlasting.

You pray to monkeys, I'll pray to God.

PhiloBeddo » 04 May 2024, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 10:49 am

You pray to monkeys, I'll pray to God.

Gee..now I've been accused of "praying to monkeys"
Well you certainly know more about this stuff than I do...!

 
 

If i'm wrong, what have I lost. If you are wrong, you are ****.

PhiloBeddo » 04 May 2024, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 10:49 am

You pray to monkeys, I'll pray to God.

You become prey to anyone or every ideology suggesting life isn't evolving as self evidently adapting to life never same total sum any rotation of the planet one is uniquely occupying space now.

PhiloBeddo » 04 May 2024, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 11:33 am

If i'm wrong, what have I lost. If you are wrong, you are ****.

...Eternally **** for how I "pray to monkeys"....got it...!      

GHETTO BLASTER » 04 May 2024, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 1:29 pm

...Eternally **** for how I "pray to monkeys"....got it...!     :rolleyes:  

What separates right and wrong isn't true or false, but completely accurate or incomplete. It is wrong to base truth on incomplete ideas where everyone never seeks a complete understanding of how genetics keeps ancestors living eternally separated occupying time this rotation of the planet being counted as days changing life beyond adapting to the moment here.

If humanity didn't invent longitudes for 24 time zones and latitudes for temperate zones between equator and opposite poles of the rotating axis this planet rotates on the horizontal plane revolving around the star. 365, 365, 365, 366 every 4 years.each year having 4 seasons, 2 twice in the same revolution.

8 seasonal shifts each revolution around the star. 4 in northern and 4 in southern being opposites in the same rotation. same as night happens same time as dawn, daylight, and dusk are occurring, 5 generation gaps are overlapping the specific numbers inhabiting space now.

but hoping now isn't eternity and intellectually counting rotations make time larger than adapting as displaced since conceived.

Mrkelly » 04 May 2024, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 9:39 am

never thought about it that way

tell me more

Dear God man....!


 
 

Here is what I am convinced of.
If an amoeba, over billions of years, evolved into Kate Upton....?
Now that takes LOADS OF FAITH...yup, FAITH. Hallelujah!!

I prefer to believe she may have been ....Eve.... Now it all makes sense.

Mrkelly » 04 May 2024, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 9:39 am

never thought about it that way

tell me more

Jesus Christ...







 

Sumela » 04 May 2024, 9:39 pm » wrote: ↑

04 May 2024, 9:39 pm

Here is what I am convinced of.
If an amoeba, over billions of years, evolved into Kate Upton....?
Now that takes LOADS OF FAITH...yup, FAITH. Hallelujah!!

I prefer to believe she may have been ....Eve.... Now it all makes sense.

Intellectual diversion working power of suggestion attempting to keep people honoring reasonable doubt in each of the 5 remaining generation gaps separating the lifetimes unique this rotation of the planet evolving in plain sight as eternally never same forms twice each rotation since conceived individually here so far.

Cornered you in your unique time adapting as displaced pretending your corrupted soul doesn't need your sole time occupying space here now. You are a fool that won't change your mind and use your evolved fertilized cell that gave you free will to accept your actual time only happens occupying space this rotation of the planet as changing form shaped since your fertilized cell was added.