Looks Like It Will Be Up To Free Ride and Sammy da Bull To Rewrite NY Fraud Law....

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Blackvegetable
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It appears that Bragg's case against Grifty is quite solid...

Selective prosecution?

Kevin O'Leary is full of ****.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/opin ... arges.html


The books and records counts laid out in the charging papers against Mr. Trump are the bread and butter of the D.A.’s office. Mr. Trump, who pleaded not guilty to all charges on Tuesday, is the 30th defendant to be indicted on false records charges by Mr. Bragg since he took office just over a year ago, with the D.A. bringing 151 counts under the statute so far. Indeed, the Trump Organization conviction and the Weisselberg plea included business falsification felonies.


Then there's the **** about "no victim"

On this standard, the law does not require prosecutors to show “pecuniary or potential pecuniary loss” to the government or otherwise. Id. Indeed, New York Jurisprudence (Second Edition 2023) in a section titled, “Indictment or information charging falsification of business records,” states: “In an indictment for first degree falsification of business records, the grand jury presentation is not required to establish commercial or property loss.”

https://www.justsecurity.org/85831/the- ... s-records/


I believe the only way out for the convicted felon is for SCOTUS to invalidate NY law.



 
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Given the broad discretion afforded Judge Merchan, and the serial felon's repeated instances of adjudicated fraud, he should send Grifty to Ossining for the max.
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Can I comment on your thread, or are you just gonna say I'm stalking you again?

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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 9:44 am » wrote: ↑ It appears that Bragg's case against Grifty is quite solid...

Selective prosecution?

Kevin O'Leary is full of ****.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/opin ... arges.html

The books and records counts laid out in the charging papers against Mr. Trump are the bread and butter of the D.A.’s office. Mr. Trump, who pleaded not guilty to all charges on Tuesday, is the 30th defendant to be indicted on false records charges by Mr. Bragg since he took office just over a year ago, with the D.A. bringing 151 counts under the statute so far. Indeed, the Trump Organization conviction and the Weisselberg plea included business falsification felonies.

Then there's the **** about "no victim"

On this standard, the law does not require prosecutors to show “pecuniary or potential pecuniary loss” to the government or otherwise. Id. Indeed, New York Jurisprudence (Second Edition 2023) in a section titled, “Indictment or information charging falsification of business records,” states: “In an indictment for first degree falsification of business records, the grand jury presentation is not required to establish commercial or property loss.”

https://www.justsecurity.org/85831/the- ... s-records/


I believe the only way out for the convicted felon is for SCOTUS to invalidate NY law.
I suspect he'll beat it on the statute of limitations violations anyway. You know since FEC violations are federal laws, and the feds never charged him.
 
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Cedar » 06 Jun 2024, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑ I suspect he'll beat it on the statute of limitations violations anyway. You know since FEC violations are federal laws, and the feds never charged him.
Wrong.

Cohen stipulated to the facts of the election offense with his guilty plea in 2018.

I believe the statute of limitations was restarted with Hope's sworn testimony.
 
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*rippy38 » 06 Jun 2024, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑ Can I comment on your thread, or are you just gonna say I'm stalking you again?

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You accuse me of stalking for responding to your posts...
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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ Wrong.

Cohen stipulated to the facts of the election offense with his guilty plea in 2018.

I believe the statute of limitations was restarted with Hope's sworn testimony.
Cohen is a self proclaimed liar.

Unfortunately for you, NY can't prosecute federal law, so the alleged "crime" is a misdemeanor with a 2 year SOL. It's not illegal to pay a hooker to keep her mouth shut, hell congress even has a slush fund for it.
 
 
 
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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑
I believe the statute of limitations was restarted with Hope's sworn testimony.
Cite from NY law?

 
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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ Wrong.

Cohen stipulated to the facts of the election offense with his guilty plea in 2018.

 
LoL!

The Central Park 5 stipulated to the facts of the rape and assault with their guilty plea 😆


 
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Cedar » 06 Jun 2024, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Unfortunately for you, NY can't prosecute federal law, so the alleged "crime" is a misdemeanor with a 2 year SOL makes. It's not illegal to pay a hooker to keep her mouth shut, hell congress even has a slush fund for it.
They didn't and it isn't necessary.

Furthermore, there was a state election offense as well.
 
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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑ You accuse me of stalking for responding to your posts...
You've been calling me "stalky" for a week now...

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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 12:44 pm » wrote: ↑ They didn't and it isn't necessary.

Furthermore, there was a state election offense as well.
Which count was that?
 
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Cedar » 06 Jun 2024, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑ Which count was that?
It was one of the 3 step ups
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*rippy38 » 06 Jun 2024, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑ You've been calling me "stalky" for a week now...

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Because you've become increasingly manic.
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Warcok » 06 Jun 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑ LoL!

The Central Park 5 stipulated to the facts of the rape and assault with their guilty plea 😆
Beat the **** out of him first, then he can appeal.
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When you have the decency to acknowledge that it's been done.
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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑ When you have the decency to acknowledge that it's been done.

You haven't done anything yet.
 
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ConsRule » 06 Jun 2024, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑ You haven't done anything yet.
You failed to do so last time.
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Blackvegetable » 06 Jun 2024, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Because you've become increasingly manic.
So... you admit to calling me "stalky" for a week, and then getting offended when I called you a stalker today.

And you call me manic?

Classic.

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