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Sumela » 11 Jul 2024, 8:27 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 8:27 pm

     
Summer in St. Pete.   

https://youtu.be/-eRsPLLi7dw

THE BEAUTY
THE CULTURE
THE HISTORY
THE PATRIOTISM
THE CLEANLINESS

WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE

 

righteous » 11 Jul 2024, 9:40 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 9:40 pm

THE BEAUTY
THE CULTURE
THE HISTORY
THE PATRIOTISM
THE CLEANLINESS

WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE

I just spent seven weeks in southern Brazil, where they are going thru a very similar thing to what we are going thru - and they insist the CIA did it. The "it" in question being that the cia supposedly installed biden-like Lula as their president, when trump-like Bolsonaro was the people's choice. Their Real was going up against the Dollar under Bolsonaro, and now, under Lula, the Real is going down (which helped me but sucks for them).

What I noticed mostly was how peaceful the people were in Florianopolis, how little threat of violence existed. Now, Rio is another story - but just being away from the US for that extended period in a place where zombies do not wander the streets reminded me of how inured we are to so, so, so much that is off on these shores.

The people seemed to have every bit as much freedom as we do, but never once did I apprehend their government or their press reminding them 200 times a day how free they were and how great and lucky it was that they were Brazilians. 

One thing I liked a lot - the thing I liked best about living in San Francisco in its better days - was not needing to own a car. When I lived in SF, I could certainly rent a car when I needed one, so it's not like I was stuck being a perpetual pedestrian reliant on public transport. I liked that the city was walkable and that small businesses proliferated (for now; Lula is working hard to kill them off). When you have all sorts of mom and pop shops specializing in different consumer goods, it makes shopping more pleasurable and keeps a city very walkable. Though it was very different in many ways, it put me in mind of the America I used to know: An America where small businesses were everywhere, and consumers genuinely had choices.

Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2024, 4:42 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 4:42 am

I just spent seven weeks in southern Brazil, where they are going thru a very similar thing to what we are going thru - and they insist the CIA did it. The "it" in question being that the cia supposedly installed biden-like Lula as their president, when trump-like Bolsonaro was the people's choice. Their Real was going up against the Dollar under Bolsonaro, and now, under Lula, the Real is going down (which helped me but sucks for them).

What I noticed mostly was how peaceful the people were in Florianopolis, how little threat of violence existed. Now, Rio is another story - but just being away from the US for that extended period in a place where zombies do not wander the streets reminded me of how inured we are to so, so, so much that is off on these shores.

The people seemed to have every bit as much freedom as we do, but never once did I apprehend their government or their press reminding them 200 times a day how free they were and how great and lucky it was that they were Brazilians. 

One thing I liked a lot - the thing I liked best about living in San Francisco in its better days - was not needing to own a car. When I lived in SF, I could certainly rent a car when I needed one, so it's not like I was stuck being a perpetual pedestrian reliant on public transport. I liked that the city was walkable and that small businesses proliferated (for now; Lula is working hard to kill them off). When you have all sorts of mom and pop shops specializing in different consumer goods, it makes shopping more pleasurable and keeps a city very walkable. Though it was very different in many ways, it put me in mind of the America I used to know: An America where small businesses were everywhere, and consumers genuinely had choices.

BRAZIL HAS BEEN ON MY BUCKET LIST FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I'LL CHECK BACK WITH YOU WHEN I'M READY TO GO.
 WITH THE ONCE IMPRISONED FOR CORRUPTION LULA ELECTED, NOW BRAZIL WILL BE FOLLOWING THE POLICIES OF THE BIDEN CRIME ORGANIZATION.
LULU PLANS TO ELIMINATE THE TAX CUT ON FUELS
TO BRING BACK THE FAKE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY
DISTRIBUTING FREE FEDERAL MONTHLY MONEY FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES
 INSTITUTING DEI
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2024, 4:42 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 4:42 am

I just spent seven weeks in southern Brazil, where they are going thru a very similar thing to what we are going thru - and they insist the CIA did it. The "it" in question being that the cia supposedly installed biden-like Lula as their president, when trump-like Bolsonaro was the people's choice. Their Real was going up against the Dollar under Bolsonaro, and now, under Lula, the Real is going down (which helped me but sucks for them).

What I noticed mostly was how peaceful the people were in Florianopolis, how little threat of violence existed. Now, Rio is another story - but just being away from the US for that extended period in a place where zombies do not wander the streets reminded me of how inured we are to so, so, so much that is off on these shores.

The people seemed to have every bit as much freedom as we do, but never once did I apprehend their government or their press reminding them 200 times a day how free they were and how great and lucky it was that they were Brazilians. 

One thing I liked a lot - the thing I liked best about living in San Francisco in its better days - was not needing to own a car. When I lived in SF, I could certainly rent a car when I needed one, so it's not like I was stuck being a perpetual pedestrian reliant on public transport. I liked that the city was walkable and that small businesses proliferated (for now; Lula is working hard to kill them off). When you have all sorts of mom and pop shops specializing in different consumer goods, it makes shopping more pleasurable and keeps a city very walkable. Though it was very different in many ways, it put me in mind of the America I used to know: An America where small businesses were everywhere, and consumers genuinely had choices.

Glad you had a good trip brother.

Yes, in fact, US cities are designed and cared for terribly.  Everything is designed for cars and shopping.

""America does not build anything beautiful any more.  Only boxes
for consumers to work in, reside in, and shop in.""" --- Tucker Carlson

 

righteous » 12 Jul 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:18 am

BRAZIL HAS BEEN ON MY BUCKET LIST FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I'LL CHECK BACK WITH YOU WHEN I'M READY TO GO.
 WITH THE ONCE IMPRISONED FOR CORRUPTION LULA ELECTED, NOW BRAZIL WILL BE FOLLOWING THE POLICIES OF THE BIDEN CRIME ORGANIZATION.
LULU PLANS TO ELIMINATE THE TAX CUT ON FUELS
TO BRING BACK THE FAKE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY
DISTRIBUTING FREE FEDERAL MONTHLY MONEY FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES
 INSTITUTING DEI

I highly recommend Florianopolis. Great mountain hikes of any comfort level, world class food, lots of walkable neighborhoods. If you get with me before you go, I will give you more information about various areas via PM. 

I'm not interested in giving folks the exact location I was at, because I intend to revisit and there are lots of shady **** on this board who might use their unemployed free time to think of ways to cause me problems. 
 

Sumela » 12 Jul 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:35 am

Glad you had a good trip brother.

Yes, in fact, US cities are designed and cared for terribly.  Everything is designed for cars and shopping.

""America does not build anything beautiful any more.  Only boxes
for consumers to work in, reside in, and shop in.""" --- Tucker Carlson

Interesting fact: In Brazil, they are every bit as dog crazy as we are. And because the neighborhoods are so walkable, most of the grocery stores have cages out front for you to leave your dog while you shop. You are welcome to bring your dog into the vast majority of restaurants. 

 

Sumela » 12 Jul 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:35 am

Glad you had a good trip brother.

Yes, in fact, US cities are designed and cared for terribly.  Everything is designed for cars and shopping.

""America does not build anything beautiful any more.  Only boxes
for consumers to work in, reside in, and shop in.""" --- Tucker Carlson

Has anyone noticed what McDonalds looks like now. An UGLY square box painted **** MUD GREY. Used to be a cute place. cheerful looking place...
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2024, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:40 am

Interesting fact: In Brazil, they are every bit as dog crazy as we are. And because the neighborhoods are so walkable, most of the grocery stores have cages out front for you to leave your dog while you shop. You are welcome to bring your dog into the vast majority of restaurants.

Hard to hate a country of dog lovers.  
Sounds like they go the extra mile for family enjoyment.
 

Sumela » 12 Jul 2024, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:52 am

Hard to hate a country of dog lovers.  
Sounds like they go the extra mile for family enjoyment.

Where I stayed was very much a family beach.

I could have stayed in El Centro where the action is, but I'm mellowing in my dotage.
 

sootedupCyndi » 12 Jul 2024, 10:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:50 am

Has anyone noticed what McDonalds looks like now. An UGLY square box painted **** MUD GREY. Used to be a cute place. cheerful looking place...

No ma'am, I have not noticed this.  
**** Mud Grey...sounds simply terrible.

And here it is....very industrial looking, like a sweat shop for fast food  

Sumela » 12 Jul 2024, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:55 am

No ma'am, I have not noticed this.  
**** Mud Grey...sounds simply terrible.

And here it is....very industrial looking, like a sweat shop for fast food  

That's a good pic of it. Reminds me when i was a kid-   building model railroad kits- the Cheap Ones.
 

sootedupCyndi » 12 Jul 2024, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:58 am

That's a good pic of it. Reminds me when i was a kid-   building model railroad kits- the Cheap Ones.

You were spoiled. 

We hadda play on the tracks. 

You must have lived on the other side of em.   

Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2024, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 11:03 am

You were spoiled. 

We hadda play on the tracks. 

You must have lived on the other side of em. 

I may have been. LOL But i've digressed. To the wrong side of the tracks now.  
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2024, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 10:53 am

Where I stayed was very much a family beach.

I could have stayed in El Centro where the action is, but I'm mellowing in my dotage.

Thongs galore?  

Sumela » 12 Jul 2024, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 11:19 am

Thongs galore?

Not at all. It's winter there, and they are on the same latitude as Jupiter, FL. It wasn't freezing, but it wasn't hot sunny days, either.