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He lamented how those who were “the most wrong” about Iraq “suffered no consequences.” The U.S. foreign policy establishment, he asserted, “has learned zero lessons from what is perhaps the most unforced and catastrophic error in the history of this country.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/election ... nes-trump/

what is it with slack jaws refusing to own the consequences of their credulity?

Iraqnam didn't happen "because foreign policy establishment". It happened because Scrub and Snarlin' Dick WANTED it to happen, for the most craven reasons imaginable....to improve their prospects for a 2nd term.

Those who opposed Iraqnam were labeled "traitors" and "Saddam lovers" by protoMAGAts, like JD.

Now JD shunts responsibility for it, and points the finger at a group that largely opposed the invasion....AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

Because "Kumbaya Grifty"..

We need to make America Slack Jaw-rein. It's quite apparent that Slack Jaw can't be cured.
 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2024, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:05 am

He lamented how those who were “the most wrong” about Iraq “suffered no consequences.” The U.S. foreign policy establishment, he asserted, “has learned zero lessons from what is perhaps the most unforced and catastrophic error in the history of this country.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/election ... nes-trump/

what is it with slack jaws refusing to own the consequences of their credulity?

Iraqnam didn't happen "because foreign policy establishment". It happened because Scrub and Snarlin' Dick WANTED it to happen, for the most craven reasons imaginable....to improve their prospects for a 2nd term.

Those who opposed Iraqnam were labeled "traitors" and "Saddam lovers" by protoMAGAts, like JD.

Now JD shunts responsibility for it, and points the finger at a group that largely opposed the invasion....AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

Because "Kumbaya Grifty"..

We need to make America Slack Jaw-rein. It's quite apparent that Slack Jaw can't be cured.
 

 

The Iraq war happened because Democrats joined republicans and voted for it, all but 1.  That included Joe Biden and Hilary Clinton, you last two votes for president.

JD Vance was 18 or 19 when the war started, and was 20 or 21 when he did his tour there.  I don't think he is responsible for it.  Every single politician that voted for it is.  
 

*Huey » 05 Aug 2024, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:16 am

The Iraq war happened because Democrats joined republicans and voted for it, all but 1.  That included Joe Biden and Hilary Clinton, you last two votes for president.

JD Vance was 18 or 19 when the war started, and was 20 or 21 when he did his tour there.  I don't think he is responsible for it.  Every single politician that voted for it is.

Veggie is easily confused by the facts.

 
 

*Huey » 05 Aug 2024, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:16 am

The Iraq war happened because Democrats joined republicans and voted for it, all but 1.  That included Joe Biden and Hilary Clinton, you last two votes for president.

JD Vance was 18 or 19 when the war started, and was 20 or 21 when he did his tour there.  I don't think he is responsible for it.  Every single politician that voted for it is.

Thank you for that bit of revisionist narrative.

Of what, exactly, did they vote in favor?
 

*rippy38 » 05 Aug 2024, 8:21 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:21 am

Veggie is easily confused by the facts.

List three facts from that jive.

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2024, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:37 am

List three facts from that jive.

1) The Iraq war happened because all but 1 Democrat joined Republicans and voted for it.

2) Every single politician that voted for it is responsible for it, and that includes Joe Biden and Hilary Clinton, your last two votes for president.

3) JD Vance was 18 or 19 when the war started, and was 20 or 21 when he did his tour there.  

You're welcome.

 
 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2024, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:36 am

Thank you for that bit of revisionist narrative.

Of what, exactly, did they vote in favor?

Nothing revisionist about it.

Use of force authorization against Iraq

2001-2002 general use of force against those responsible for 9/11:  Only 1 voted against it. 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-con ... olution/23

Use of force 2002 Iraq:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-con ... lution/114

Which Biden and Clinton voted for.  

Acknowledge you were answered.  
 

3 stooges are at it again, with another bullspit thread.

31stArrival » 05 Aug 2024, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:46 am

3 stooges are at it again, with another bullspit thread.

Don't you have some ancestrial division to take care of or something?
 

*rippy38 » 05 Aug 2024, 8:48 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:48 am

Don't you have some ancestrial division to take care of or something?
 

I am not dividing ancestral lineages.

I am showing them how to reclaim their ancestors misled by corrupted souls promising things that never existed in actual time evolving here today without destroying what it takes to survive existing as eternally separated by genetic outcomes left alive today.

I am restoring uniqueness as self evidently been here throughout history of humanity corrupting every great great grandchild added daily last 7,000 years.
Intellectual 9 gates to eternal hell.

means, motives, methods, hope, faith, charity, power, wealth, fame educating each last ancestor born was conceived to sustain the numbers left after previous 4 generation gaps die off.

specific algorithm is 16 original gave birth to a second generation adding 8 great grandparents, providing a 3rd generation gap of 4 grandparents, then brought forth 2 parenting the 5th wave called each great great grandchild multitasking as son or daughter, grandchild, great grandchild, etc.
6th generation gap into current events follow the same algorithm each ancestral lineage(race, creed, color, national origin, etc.

Please recite your history of guessing where the missing links were at when every society only celebrates day of birth, not the date conceived 9 months earlier.

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2024, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:36 am

Thank you for that bit of revisionist narrative.

Of what, exactly, did they vote in favor?

You don't know?
 

*rippy38 » 05 Aug 2024, 8:21 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:21 am

Veggie is easily confused by the facts.

He's also confused about the words, credulity and incredulity. 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2024, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:05 am

He lamented how those who were “the most wrong” about Iraq “suffered no consequences.” The U.S. foreign policy establishment, he asserted, “has learned zero lessons from what is perhaps the most unforced and catastrophic error in the history of this country.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/election ... nes-trump/

what is it with slack jaws refusing to own the consequences of their credulity?

Iraqnam didn't happen "because foreign policy establishment". It happened because Scrub and Snarlin' Dick WANTED it to happen, for the most craven reasons imaginable....to improve their prospects for a 2nd term.

Those who opposed Iraqnam were labeled "traitors" and "Saddam lovers" by protoMAGAts, like JD.

Now JD shunts responsibility for it, and points the finger at a group that largely opposed the invasion....AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

Because "Kumbaya Grifty"..

We need to make America Slack Jaw-rein. It's quite apparent that Slack Jaw can't be cured.

JD Vance was 16 at the time, retard.
 

Cedar » 05 Aug 2024, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 9:03 am

JD Vance was 16 at the time, retard.

And?



 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2024, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 9:07 am

And?

You are a typical liberal ****

Damn I was accurate about this thread. little 3 blind mice melody, please.

FJB » 05 Aug 2024, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 9:08 am

You are a typical liberal ****

I’d add commie 

*Huey » 05 Aug 2024, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 8:46 am

Nothing revisionist about it.

Use of force authorization against Iraq

2001-2002 general use of force against those responsible for 9/11:  Only 1 voted against it. 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-con ... olution/23

Use of force 2002 Iraq:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-con ... lution/114

Which Biden and Clinton voted for.  

Acknowledge you were answered.

So it gave Scrub the discretion he requested.

Then he used his discretion to do what he wanted.

For which JD now blames "the foreign policy establishment". 

 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2024, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 9:07 am

And?

I know, weird right?

**chuckle** 
 

Cedar » 05 Aug 2024, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2024, 9:11 am

I know, weird right?

**chuckle**

What did I suggest he did at 16?