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Just a few thoughts of my own...
By Varnaj42
11 Aug 2024 7:25 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
12 Aug 2024 12:49 pm
well many of the things you supported just lead naturally to what we are seeing now. For example, in the 1968 civil rights bill, anything that has 'disparate impact' on one race violates the bill. Well, law enforcement has disparate impact on blacks because they commit more crime. Ergo, we cannot have law enforcement.Varnaj42 » 11 Aug 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑ In my middle eighties now. I was alifelong democrat. I voted for JFK my first time. Everything was sort of OK for a long time. Oh sure we had big business promoting wars so they could sell war toys and all that. That's not really a party thing. It happens all the time. But something did happen to the democrat party. When the globalists' power grew to the point where their existence was obvious the US democrats began joining with them policy wise. This continued to the point where I no longer recognized my lifelong party. More recently the woke phenomena came along and the gender confusion? None of those issues whould be of concern in politics.
Lately we find people wanting special rights for groups of citizens. The gays want mroe rights. Gender benders what this or that. But I say all of these people already enjoy the exact same rights that we all have, courtesy of the Constition and the Bill of Rights. They are perfectly adequate. No one group should have any special privilege.
Abortion? Abortion rights? I, personally, am against abortion except for valid medical reasons but I am not about to try to force my views on others. I say everyone should have freedom of choice in this very serious area of life. The troubleis though that I do not believe our federal government should be involved. No. I agree with the reversal of Roe VS Wade simply because I believe the States should have the authority.
I have always been a moderate democrat. I believe the States should have much more authority than they presently do. The federal government should concerrn itself with our country's global, political questions and very few internal ones.
It was always going to be this way. The people in your generation just naively assumed that black people would eventually stop committing so much crime when they were properly 'educated. You didn't believe that just because white and blacks are different genetically that there could be any different in behavior. After all, cows only eat grass because they are tsught to. Women only get pregnant because they are talk to. If you simply educate people differently, then dna and the basic laws of physics all just dissapear.. so you can just decide your biological sex or your race and nobody needs to care about whatever innate nature human beings have because there is no such thing.
As far as globalism and constant wars go, that was all a logical consequence of everything that happened after ww2. After all, the primary role of the usa is to prevent another Hitler from appearing anywhere in the world. So we have to dominate the world to prevent that from ever happening. The holocaust narrative has NEVER been used to promote peace. If you do not want to go to war with putin, then you are an 'appeaser' like chamberlain.
So yeah.. I don't see why you seem surprised.. where else could all of this possibly gone?
12 Aug 2024 2:27 pm
Yes. The difference 'tween Fox and MSNBC is an illusion to be sure. So.... I avoid them both. I find that watching the events in the rest of the world can be more interesting than paying attention to my own country only. Deciding what or who to believe is an argument that goes away as soon as we discover that the only way to raise our minds above the level of the **** is to use the time tested and correct way pushed forward by the greatest thinker of our time, George Carlin who once famously did a piece on what he called "the subtle art of not giving a ****". When all else fails this is sound advice. And.... I have a frige full of beer. (not Bud)Cannonpointer » 12 Aug 2024, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑ Fox and MSNBC ARE on the same side of the argument. The "arguemnt" is a puppet show, with one side slow walking and the other moving apace.
WHat does Fox say about trannies? THEY CALL BRUCE JENNER SHE. They arew on the same side with MSNBC - just slow walking, and pretending to oppose. Only suckers are fooled.
It can reveal a great deal more than that.
It can reveal the intent to soundly and publicly reject political correctness.
12 Aug 2024 2:30 pm
No. I do not agree. When you speak I find a mixture of truth and conjecture. I am NOT a follower. I do my own thinking. You do yours. If we find concurrance here and there we're luckier than most. But here's one thing we probably both agree on. Laughing Kookaburra Kamala has brown eyes only because she is full of **** up to her eyebrows.Cannonpointer » 12 Aug 2024, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ Yeah, this is actually false. This conceit is not even ten years old. There is a difference between gaslighting and genuine principles. The tranny movement is Salem witch trial level **** - not a legitimate belief system. It's mass hysteria, top-down fed to these monkeys.
"Wrong body" is a bit dramatic - but I agree that they hurt.
An altered male is no more a woman than a dog with lopped nuts is a bitch. God/Nature makes women - surgeries don't.
I do not cede to conservatives the liberal principle of protecting women from sex fiends. I remain a liberal and oppose men in women's showers, prisons, and sports - up to and including those who are altered.
12 Aug 2024 2:36 pm
Dramatic? What are the liberals in our midst if not drama queens?Cannonpointer » 12 Aug 2024, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ Yeah, this is actually false. This conceit is not even ten years old. There is a difference between gaslighting and genuine principles. The tranny movement is Salem witch trial level **** - not a legitimate belief system. It's mass hysteria, top-down fed to these monkeys.
"Wrong body" is a bit dramatic - but I agree that they hurt.
An altered male is no more a woman than a dog with lopped nuts is a bitch. God/Nature makes women - surgeries don't.
I do not cede to conservatives the liberal principle of protecting women from sex fiends. I remain a liberal and oppose men in women's showers, prisons, and sports - up to and including those who are altered.
Regarding the surgery. If a person is playacting he won't want to lose 'em but if he is willing to go under the knife he might just be sincere in his belief that he "was born in the wrong kind of body".
We err greatly when we tell each other what is right or wrong. Opinons are like assholes. We all have one. And like assholes they can at times be the most important part of us.
12 Aug 2024 2:50 pm
No! He will die on the ****! The worst death imaginable!walkingstick » 12 Aug 2024, 8:06 am » wrote: ↑ mid eighties? you are only 1/2 way. you will live to be in your 160's. modern medical, and humping 3 squaws a day will keep you fit. best advice: stop thinking!!! be aware. stop planning. go with the flow. and you will live long, with a smile on your face.
12 Aug 2024 2:53 pm
Is that average person serving humanity or average ancestor being self aware to how evolving works naturally timing reproductions apart since conceived as part of their ancestral lineage todate..Blackvegetable » 12 Aug 2024, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑ Is the result of the 2020 election a "matter of opinion"?
But the average person is a moron.
12 Aug 2024 6:20 pm
I made a number of points. I took the liberty of numbering them. Which are problematic for you, and why?Varnaj42 » 12 Aug 2024, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑No. I do not agree. When you speak I find a mixture of truth and conjecture.Cannonpointer » 12 Aug 2024, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ 1. ...The tranny movement is Salem witch trial level **** - not a legitimate belief system. It's mass hysteria...
2. "Wrong body" is a bit dramatic - but I agree that they hurt.
3. An altered male is no more a woman than a dog with lopped nuts is a bitch. God/Nature makes women - surgeries don't.
4. I do not cede to conservatives the liberal principle of protecting women from sex fiends. I remain a liberal and oppose men in women's showers, prisons, and sports - up to and including those who are altered.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
12 Aug 2024 6:25 pm
His "belief" if not an issue. Science deals with measurables.Varnaj42 » 12 Aug 2024, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Regarding the surgery. If a person is playacting he won't want to lose 'em but if he is willing to go under the knife he might just be sincere in his belief that he "was born in the wrong kind of body".
A man's sincerity - even if it reaches the level of devout faith - does not obviate Aristotelean Science.Varnaj42 » 12 Aug 2024, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑ We err greatly when we tell each other what is right or wrong. Opinons are like assholes. We all have one. And like assholes they can at times be the most important part of us.
A is A and can never be B.
A male can be altered. He cannot be transformed, except in spirit only by the hand of God.
I have no idea why a fellow's "sincerity" should even come into play in the conversation. We are talking about science, not faith - about biology, not religion.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Aug 2024 6:55 am
Opinions need not be scientific nor need they even make sense. That's why they're called opinions.Cannonpointer » 12 Aug 2024, 6:25 pm » wrote: ↑ His "belief" if not an issue. Science deals with measurables.
A man's sincerity - even if it reaches the level of devout faith - does not obviate Aristotelean Science.
A is A and can never be B.
A male can be altered. He cannot be transformed, except in spirit only by the hand of God.
I have no idea why a fellow's "sincerity" should even come into play in the conversation. We are talking about science, not faith - about biology, not religion.
Regarding the aspect of sincerety consider the trans man. Does he really believe he should have been a female or is he simply looking for cheap sexual thrills? The word "sincere" describes his true stance.
I've noticed in all of your posts that you always seem to want to come out on top in a conversation. You never cede any point no do you allow your opponent to even have a valid opinion of which you do not approve. Indeed you even attact the idea of an opinion saying it has to be scientific and so on. Why, if this is the case, should anyone bother trying to discuss anything with you? I cede our arguments to you. Clearly your mind is superior to mine which is only 88 years old and still learning.
Cheers.
14 Aug 2024 12:31 pm
That is why they are disreputable. An opinion may be uttered in bad faith. If I saw a 30 year old Kim Basinger go into a public shower, I might be tempted to have a sudden and inexplicable transversion, that I might join the object of my youthful masturbatory fetish nekkid.Varnaj42 » 14 Aug 2024, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑ Opinions need not be scientific nor need they even make sense. That's why they're called opinions.
My opinion cannot be weighed and measured and should grant me no "rights" that I did not have before uttering it. Indeed, I needn't even SAY that I am trans. My right as a trans to invade the ladies' room is protected EVEN FROM INQUIRY. That's insane - effeminate concern for opinions notwithstanding.
By what objective criteria can we suss "sincerity" - and if by none, how can we POSSIBLY be expected to accommodate him?Varnaj42 » 14 Aug 2024, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑ Regarding the aspect of sincerety consider the trans man. Does he really believe he should have been a female or is he simply looking for cheap sexual thrills? The word "sincere" describes his true stance.
Ask around. I have publicly changed my stance many times. I did so yesterday, here:Varnaj42 » 14 Aug 2024, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑ I've noticed in all of your posts that you always seem to want to come out on top in a conversation. You never cede any point no do you allow your opponent to even have a valid opinion of which you do not approve.
This^ was in a small matter. I conceded my opponent's argument that Trump exaggerated his crowd size.Cannonpointer » 13 Aug 2024, 8:56 pm » wrote: ↑I have taken a longer look at the photos and I think King's was bigger - but not by a factor 2, much less five...Cannonpointer » 13 Aug 2024, 8:40 pm » wrote: ↑
I looked at the NYT's photos of the crowds of both events - looks pretty close to me. If DJT says his is bigger than a black man's, I have to give him the Slim Shady Award on that...
I have given ground in far larger matters than these. I was formerly an Obama voter and a defender of Affirmative Action. My current stance was a sea change - not a minor concession like above. That sea change was made publicly, on this board. I took ownership - I always do when admitting error, and I have admitted error more times than I can count.
You are working with too small a sample to make intelligent claims.
Look, I would be inauthentic if I argued against your conclusion that I am smarter than you. I might niggle that you failed to say an order of magnitude smarter - but I am happy to just agree and get along.Varnaj42 » 14 Aug 2024, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑Indeed you even attack the idea of an opinion saying it has to be scientific and so on. Why, if this is the case, should anyone bother trying to discuss anything with you? I cede our arguments to you. Clearly your mind is superior to mine which is only 88 years old and still learning.
Cheers.
The fact that you would base public policy on purported feelings certainly implies that I am a full order of magnitude smarter - but again, I play a big man's game. I will settle for smarter.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Aug 2024 1:14 pm
Varnaj42 » 12 Aug 2024, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Dramatic? What are the liberals in our midst if not drama queens?
Regarding the surgery. If a person is playacting he won't want to lose 'em but if he is willing to go under the knife he might just be sincere in his belief that he "was born in the wrong kind of body".
We err greatly when we tell each other what is right or wrong. Opinons are like assholes. We all have one. And like assholes they can at times be the most important part of us.
Nice try! Cannon; we know this is one of your SOKS! And you tried to fool us again!
15 Aug 2024 11:35 am
I think we can agree that I am against the left - that those who support Walz are my "opponents."Varnaj42 » 14 Aug 2024, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑ You never cede any point no do you allow your opponent to even have a valid opinion of which you do not approve.
If we agree on that, we can certainly agree that I am "ceding a point" to them by calling **** on an attack against their guy:
Cannonpointer » 12 Aug 2024, 10:24 pm » wrote: ↑Muslims aren't fond of Israel? Maybe Gov Walz didn't know this.Beekeeper » 09 Aug 2024, 2:22 pm » wrote: ↑ This is EXACTLY WHY your gal kamalyBWAhaha picked this HUMAN PIECE OF NAZI ****, @maineman !!
Because WALZ IS ANOTHER NAZI DEMOCRAT PIECE OF ****!! Is THIS what you "went to war" for??
As the JEW HATERS just keep getting EXPOSED and yall's boy WALZ is head of the party!!
As Gabe Kaminsky of the Washington Examiner reported about Walz and Imam Asad Zaman of the Muslim American Society of Minnesota:
There you have it!! Our forum mainestain is a FULLY SUPPORTING OF NAZI CARD CARRYING MEMBER of the TERRORISTS!!
Or MAYBE he was doing his job as governor.
Look, I hate walz for a pedophile. I don't NEED to play the nazi card like a damned fool.
He met with a GROUP of muslim clerics to discuss interfaith bla bla bla and mosque security. That *** was one of a dozen - making a thing about it is lame.
I mean - the **** nazi card? Give it a rest, son.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Aug 2024 11:38 am
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Aug 2024 12:29 pm
“It’s not a lie if you believe it yourself” ~ some ancient philosophique extraordinaireBlackvegetable » 12 Aug 2024, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑ Is the result of the 2020 election a "matter of opinion"?
But the average person is a moron.
15 Aug 2024 12:33 pm
Cheddy of Tremley?LowIQTrash » 15 Aug 2024, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ “It’s not a lie if you believe it yourself” ~ some ancient philosophique extraordinaire
15 Aug 2024 12:46 pm
NO QUESTIONS, DICK SUCKER!
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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Aug 2024 12:49 pm
“Plumber” and “philosopher” rarely coexist in the same celestial body…
15 Aug 2024 12:50 pm
The Sage of Lilliput Circle?LowIQTrash » 15 Aug 2024, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ “It’s not a lie if you believe it yourself” ~ some ancient philosophique extraordinaire
Morrissey?
15 Aug 2024 1:52 pm
Wonderful post...!!!Varnaj42 » 11 Aug 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑ In my middle eighties now. I was alifelong democrat. I voted for JFK my first time. Everything was sort of OK for a long time. Oh sure we had big business promoting wars so they could sell war toys and all that. That's not really a party thing. It happens all the time. But something did happen to the democrat party. When the globalists' power grew to the point where their existence was obvious the US democrats began joining with them policy wise. This continued to the point where I no longer recognized my lifelong party. More recently the woke phenomena came along and the gender confusion? None of those issues whould be of concern in politics.
Lately we find people wanting special rights for groups of citizens. The gays want mroe rights. Gender benders what this or that. But I say all of these people already enjoy the exact same rights that we all have, courtesy of the Constition and the Bill of Rights. They are perfectly adequate. No one group should have any special privilege.
Abortion? Abortion rights? I, personally, am against abortion except for valid medical reasons but I am not about to try to force my views on others. I say everyone should have freedom of choice in this very serious area of life. The troubleis though that I do not believe our federal government should be involved. No. I agree with the reversal of Roe VS Wade simply because I believe the States should have the authority.
I have always been a moderate democrat. I believe the States should have much more authority than they presently do. The federal government should concerrn itself with our country's global, political questions and very few internal ones.
I voted for Obama twice but since then I've seen the democrat party move further to the left than I care to go. This time, this next election, I'm voting for Kennedy. He is a real democrat, one who is not afraid to stand against the quest for global power that is so strong in our world today.
I suppose I'm going to catch hell for expressing my opinion. Oh... one more thing. Racism. It does exist to an extend inside of each of us. There are no official, national policies that are meant to be racist though. I remember the America of the 1950s. I was a teen then in high school. I remember damned well what blacks had to put up with. All of that is gone now. Those who claim America is tainted by "institutional racism" do not know what they are talking about. In the late 1960s all that was dealth a death blow. Does racism exist today? Sure but it's inside of each of us, not the government. I'm glad it's gone but one more thing. Reverse racism is just as bad as the original, anti minority, kind. Those actions that harm whites now are just as bad as those older ones that harmed blacks and Jews long ago. Again though... it iswe who harbor these kinds of things. No legislation or orders can make them go away if we hold them close.
I myself sometimes have anti black tendencies. When I hear an angry black using foul language (bitches. mother ****... etc) I react by wanting to be as far from that person as possible. I will never accept that kind of crude, uncivilized speech when I have the power to avoid it. This is the extent of my racist tendancies. Each of us has to fight our own demons. Life is not supposed to be easy. If it were we would never learn anything.
Another "Racist Tendency" that most people who aren't Black have....they don't even look at real estate to purchase for their homes and businesses within so many blocks of MLK boulevard or with in the heart of ANY of our Democrat run AFRICA USA / URBAN CONGOS.
15 Aug 2024 1:58 pm
What are theories and theologies alike? Brain not accepting how one self originated into being alive daily minding what a collective bunch of people believe true to their wishful outcome tomorrow. What is a physical tomorrow living eternally separated each rotation remains today. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, each quarter phase of the moon, 12.375 months, 52 weeks a year 365, 365, 365, 366.LowIQTrash » 15 Aug 2024, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ “It’s not a lie if you believe it yourself” ~ some ancient philosophique extraordinaire
All charted on a society provided chart to mark off how many day lived since birth, ignoring the 0-9 months conceived to born because it isn't wise to count your chickens before they hatch. Always define ancestry as a forest of family trees so people forget DNA is the truck, original generation is the roots, 2nd generation is the truck. 3rd generation is the limbs, 4th generation the branches, 5th generation twigs, 6th generation seasonal foliage until no more foliage again.
Metaphors are designed to keep sole brain from paying attention to never exceeding adapting since displaced the last generation added until becoming a parent to a 6th crop of soliage.
This is why when the first time I watched Cool Hand Luke in 1967, my mind felt like it was coming out of my skull after I heard the line 'What we have here is a failure to communicate and the final scene at the church got my brain seeing humanity for all it ever was. I was 15 years old when I knew mankind was dishonest everywhere, but I can't live anytime else than the moment here.
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