Kabul vs. Beirut
By maineman
26 Aug 2024 10:11 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
26 Aug 2024 1:41 pm
maineman » 26 Aug 2024, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑ They didn't take any steps. That's the point. The entire Reagan administration was asleep at the switch. I know for a fact that the Ambassador, Bill Dillon, was urged to put up barriers. He did not. Then in the aftermath of the embassy bombing, the Pentagon did not bother to protect their marines in the barracks even after they had clear proof that arab extremists IN BEIRUT had successfully used a truck laden with explosives to blow up a US target in the same city. And then... when Team Reagan moved into a brand new embassy IN THE SAME CITY, they STILL didn't bother to put up cement barriers and let it happen yet again.
And I take issue with your casual use of the word "unanimous". Prove it or find another, more accurate word.
Swabbie, brush up on your history:
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1981-1988/lebanon
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26 Aug 2024 1:50 pm
Zeets2 » 26 Aug 2024, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Hey dickhead!
A UN Peacekeeping force standing guard in front of an embassy IS NOT THE EQUIVALENT OF HAVING A FULLY EQUIPPED US AIR BASE IN AFGHANISTAN to prevent a terrorist attack! You claim to be a veteran AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT?!?!?
And OF COURSE you're trying to exonerate Biden for his colossal failures there! YOU **** PRAISED HIM FOR "ONLY" ALLOWING 13 MARINES TO BE BRUTALLY MURDERED!!! And you're trying to do that by making the totally unrelated kind of attack that took place 40 years ago under ANOTHER great American president that you also stupidly hate was in charge!
Have you got the same unmitigated hatred for Hillary and Obama for THEIR incompetence that killed our soldiers and a US Ambassador in Libya? How come, when THAT was far more recent than anything that went on during the Reagan years?
Isn't if funny how you glossed right over THAT stupidity SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU LOVE WEAK, ****** LEADERS WHO HATE THIS COUNTRY like Obama, Hillary, and of course, Biden!
The Marines were not a UN Peacekeeping Force and they weren't standing guard in front of an embassy. You really are dumber than a box of rocks.
13 versus 327
Ask a Marine which day is a sadder day for the Corps:
8/26/21 or 10/23/83
26 Aug 2024 1:51 pm
MurKKA takes a massive
*** whoopin'....
running like lil *** **** from the Taliban
https://x.com/i/status/1828104454144704767
*** whoopin'....
running like lil *** **** from the Taliban
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26 Aug 2024 1:51 pm
STFU YOU **** ****** COWARDmaineman » 26 Aug 2024, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑ The Marines were not a UN Peacekeeping Force and they weren't standing guard in front of an embassy. You really are dumber than a box of rocks.
13 versus 327
Ask a Marine which day is a sadder day for the Corps:
8/26/21 or 10/23/83
26 Aug 2024 2:36 pm
Your words:maineman » 26 Aug 2024, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑ The Marines were not a UN Peacekeeping Force and they weren't standing guard in front of an embassy. You really are dumber than a box of rocks.
13 versus 327
Ask a Marine which day is a sadder day for the Corps:
8/26/21 or 10/23/83
Folks here claim it was the most embarrassing moment in American history. Joe Biden is a horrible president for letting it happen.
It wasn't about which was sadder, but what was more embarrassing for America according to some. I gotta go with Afghanistan.
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4 Sep 2024 4:12 pm
There were some minor mistakes, yes. But he cleaned it all up in his brilliant campaign against Grenada, which was literally monopolizing the Grenadine Syrup market. Reagan made America great against by breaking that stranglehold.maineman » 26 Aug 2024, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑ Three years ago:
Kabul: One suicide bomber
13 American dead, 100 (est) Afghanis dead
Folks here claim it was the most embarrassing moment in American history. Joe Biden is a horrible president for letting it happen.
Let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we?
April 1983. Beirut, Lebanon
One suicide bomber in an explosives-laden truck drives right into the courtyard of the US Embassy on the corniche in West Beirut, drives right up under the building's porte-cochère, and detonates. 63 dead: 32 Lebanese, 17 Americans, 14 visitors and passers-by.
Oddly enough, even though the previous Naval Attache, a Marine Colonel, had strongly recommended cement security barriers in front of the embassy, none had been installed.
Same City. Five months and two days later
One suicide bomber in an explosives-laden truck drives right up the front stairs of the US Marine barracks at the Beirut International Airport, drives right into the front lobby, and detonates. 241 Dead Marines.
Oddly enough, even after a suicide bomber had used the exact same weapon in the exact same manner in the same city against the only OTHER US target in that city, cement security barriers had still not been installed.
Same City. 362 days later.
One suicide bomber in an explosives-laden truck drives right up into the courtyard of the brand new US Embassy in a posh neighborhood of East Beirut. drives right up next to the building and detonates. 23 dead. 2 US servicemen, 21 Lebanese. Both the US Ambassador to Lebanon and the British Ambassador to Lebanon were both injured in the blast.
Oddly enough, even after suicide bombers had used the exact same weapons in the exact same manner in the same city against TWO OTHER US targets in that city, cement security barriers had STILL not been installed at the new Embassy either.
Folks here don't even remember it, and they think that Ronald Reagan - who was the president for all three of those suicide bombing attacks and who had the blood of all 327 casualties on his trembling hands - they think he was a **** God, and they name airports after him.
Curious, perhaps?
Hypocritical, perhaps?
Discuss.
Just curious - why are you suddenly counting foreigners as people, too?
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4 Sep 2024 4:24 pm
How about unambiguous and uncontested?maineman » 26 Aug 2024, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑ They didn't take any steps. That's the point. The entire Reagan administration was asleep at the switch. I know for a fact that the Ambassador, Bill Dillon, was urged to put up barriers. He did not. Then in the aftermath of the embassy bombing, the Pentagon did not bother to protect their marines in the barracks even after they had clear proof that arab extremists IN BEIRUT had successfully used a truck laden with explosives to blow up a US target in the same city. And then... when Team Reagan moved into a brand new embassy IN THE SAME CITY, they STILL didn't bother to put up cement barriers and let it happen yet again.
And I take issue with your casual use of the word "unanimous". Prove it or find another, more accurate word.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 4:25 pm
We were a friendly support structure to Afghanistan: INVITEES - not at war with them, dummy.Zeets2 » 26 Aug 2024, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑ When were we at war with Lebanon like we were with Afghanistan?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 4:27 pm
I won't take issue with the criminal negligence argument, but the false flag argument is lacking. In the end, Reagan ran like a *** up a tree. If this were a willful "oopsie doopsey," there'd have been a pay off. False flags have targets - this was just blithe, stupid, utter incompetence.maineman » 26 Aug 2024, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑ My thought is that the first truck bomb in Beirut was knowingly but willfully not prevented, and the second was worse, and the third was criminal negligence on the part of the Reagan administration.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 4:33 pm
That's been amended to unambiguous and uncontested.maineman » 26 Aug 2024, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑ The Reagan administration KNEW that senior Marines on the ground in Beirut wanted concrete barriers, especially AFTER the embassy was attacked.
And what do you call the suicide bomber at the Kabul airport? Was he NOT somehow a terrorist?
And you can repeat the "unanimous" lie all you want... it still won't make you something other than a cowardly liar
And, we were NOT in any way under anyone's else's control... certainly not the UN for chrissakes! It was a US brokered cease fire and a US negotiated four nation peacekeeping operation. We were there and our Marine Colonel was in overall command of forces from America, Britain, France and Italy. NOBODY wore blue berets. You just flat make **** up, don't you?
I am not trying to exonerate Biden for anything. I merely point out the utter hypocrisy of believing that 13 dead in Kabul is SUCH a terrible failure of leadership while giving Reagan a total free pass on not upgrading the defenses of not one not two but THREE different US facilities in the same city within months of each other that resulted in SIGNIFICANTLY more American casualties .
My client assumes you're good with that.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 4:38 pm
My client has amended it to "unambiguous and uncontested."
We assume you are sanguine with that.
There is also a widely shared assumption that you are gay.
Please advise.
About the amendment. Don't wanna hear your lies about the gay stuff.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 4:39 pm
The TWENTY YEAR, TRILLION DOLLAR investment argues for your case.*Huey » 26 Aug 2024, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Your words:
It wasn't about which was sadder, but what was more embarrassing for America according to some. I gotta go with Afghanistan.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 4:59 pm
Zeets is never much for details and facts. Just sky screaming.Cannonpointer » 04 Sep 2024, 4:25 pm » wrote: ↑ We were a friendly support structure to Afghanistan: INVITEES - not at war with them, dummy.
4 Sep 2024 5:13 pm
I gotta go with Beirut*Huey » 26 Aug 2024, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Your words:
It wasn't about which was sadder, but what was more embarrassing for America according to some. I gotta go with Afghanistan.
220 marines killed and Raygun cut and ran without retaliation
THAT was embarrassing
4 Sep 2024 5:17 pm
That was a beautiful day.Mrkelly » 04 Sep 2024, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑ I gotta go with Beirut
220 marines killed and Raygun cut and ran without retaliation
THAT was embarrassing
4 Sep 2024 5:22 pm
so was getting out of Afghanistan
a big **** you to the MIC is always a beautiful day
4 Sep 2024 5:53 pm
I thought his name was Zeke.Sumela » 04 Sep 2024, 4:59 pm » wrote: ↑ Zeets is never much for details and facts. Just sky screaming.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 5:54 pm
He lobbed some shells into some villages on the way out - a parting "**** you" to the democracy they'd shown the audacity to defend.Mrkelly » 04 Sep 2024, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑ I gotta go with Beirut
220 marines killed and Raygun cut and ran without retaliation
THAT was embarrassing
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
4 Sep 2024 5:55 pm
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