Kabul vs. Beirut

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Cannonpointer » 04 Sep 2024, 4:27 pm » wrote: I won't take issue with the criminal negligence argument, but the false flag argument is lacking. In the end, Reagan ran like a *** up a tree. If this were a willful "oopsie doopsey," there'd have been a pay off. False flags have targets - this was just blithe, stupid, utter incompetence.

I agree.  and yet, the GOP still revere him and name airports after him.
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maineman » 04 Sep 2024, 6:26 pm » wrote: I agree.  and yet, the GOP still revere him and name airports after him.
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USS Cancer *** McCain :LOL:  
 
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maineman » 04 Sep 2024, 6:26 pm » wrote: I agree.  and yet, the GOP still revere him and name airports after him.
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Sumela » 04 Sep 2024, 6:27 pm » wrote: Image Like....the

USS Cancer *** McCain Image
Nicknamed, "The Songbird."
 
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Cannonpointer » 04 Sep 2024, 8:02 pm » wrote: Nicknamed, "The Songbird."
dayyyyum, thats hard bro.  Yet true.
 
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Cannonpointer » 04 Sep 2024, 4:25 pm » wrote: We were a friendly support structure to Afghanistan: INVITEES - not at war with them, dummy.
Yeah.
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Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 9:58 am » wrote: Yeah.
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No, no, Zeke - ya fruitcake.

You don't get to beat your chest and wave the flag and support a nation-building exercise for twenty years on ONE premise, and then whine about it on the opposite premise. 

You're a blood thirsty little neocon whore, is what you are. You'll shill for Ukraine until THAT falls flat, and then you'll pretend to have opposed THAT blood-suck. 

Until you have the integrity to put America first, you're just maineman with a red jersey instead of a blue jersey. It's when you stand on PRINCIPLE that you matter - and I don't mind that you don't matter. 

Here is the principle: America for Americans - not America second, Israel first. You either DO, or you DO NOT, believe in socialism. You either DO, or you DO NOT, believe in putting YOUR hand into MY pocket for a "good cause."

And you do. So you're a socialist. 

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Cannonpointer » 05 Sep 2024, 10:13 am » wrote: No, no, Zeke - ya fruitcake.

You don't get to beat your chest and wave the flag and support a nation-building exercise for twenty years on ONE premise, and then whine about it on the opposite premise. 

You're a blood thirsty little neocon whore, is what you are. You'll shill for Ukraine until THAT falls flat, and then you'll pretend to have opposed THAT blood-suck. 

Until you have the integrity to put America first, you're just maineman with a red jersey instead of a blue jersey. It's when you stand on PRINCIPLE that you matter - and I don't mind that you don't matter. 

Here is the principle: America for Americans - not America second, Israel first. You either DO, or you DO NOT, believe in socialism. You either DO, or you DO NOT, believe in putting YOUR hand into MY pocket for a "good cause."

And you do. So you're a socialist. 

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You really need to stop talking out of your ***, moron!
I NEVER supported spending A **** DIME TO SUPPORT UKRAINE!
And I defy you to find a single post of mine where I did, you liar!
Right from the onset I clearly stated that Ukraine WAS NOT a NATO member, AND WE HAD NO REASON TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS TO SUPPORT IT, especially when we have a corrupt president like Biden and his family getting kickbacks from those taxpayer billions he gave them!
I said that since Russia was determined to take back at least some portion of Ukraine, THERE WAS NO WAY UKRAINE COULD STOP THEM, even with the help of NATO.  Russia WILL NOT and CAN NOT relent in their war, even if it takes using illegal chemical weapons OR even nukes to do so.  Thanks to Biden's corruption and his stupidity, tens of thousands on both sides are now dead, hundreds of thousands living in Ukraine have been displaces, and trillions of dollars worth of damage has been done to their country as both sides continue to escalate the conflict.

So don't you EVER compare me to an ignorant commie like Maineman, dickhead!! 
 
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Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 10:29 am » wrote: You really need to stop talking out of your ***, moron!
I NEVER supported spending A **** DIME TO SUPPORT UKRAINE!
And I defy you to find a single post of mine where I did, you liar!
Right from the onset I clearly stated that Ukraine WAS NOT a NATO member, AND WE HAD NO REASON TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS TO SUPPORT IT, especially when we have a corrupt president like Biden and his family getting kickbacks from those taxpayer billions he gave them!
Even when Trump was raiding the coffers for Ukraine, my neocon 'friend'?
Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 10:29 am » wrote: I said that since Russia was determined to take back at least some portion of Ukraine, THERE WAS NO WAY UKRAINE COULD STOP THEM, even with the help of NATO.  Russia WILL NOT and CAN NOT relent in their war, even if it takes using illegal chemical weapons OR even nukes to do so.  Thanks to Biden's corruption and his stupidity, tens of thousands on both sides are now dead, hundreds of thousands living in Ukraine have been displaces, and trillions of dollars worth of damage has been done to their country as both sides continue to escalate the conflict.

So don't you EVER compare me to an ignorant commie like Maineman, dickhead!!
I notice you la-lal-la-ed right past the Israel First business, my socialist 'friend'. :)
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Cannonpointer » 05 Sep 2024, 11:14 am » wrote: Even when Trump was raiding the coffers for Ukraine, my neocon 'friend'?

I notice you la-lal-la-ed right past the Israel First business, my socialist 'friend'. Image
Trump took actions giving Ukraine weapons to defend themselves BEFORE Russia invaded, didn't he, nitwit?
And if Biden hadn't stolen the 2020 election, Russia would NEVER have invaded Ukraine.  To me, that was a worthy investment.  But once Russia didn't have to fear Trump any longer and invaded, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE SPENT ANOTHER DIME THERE!

I trust that you wore your stubby fingers to the bone searching for a post where I supported Biden's wild spending in Ukraine, didn't you?
Find anything, ******?

And while you're at it, you might as well search for any post I've EVER made that promoted an "Israel first" agenda in this country.
So stop your lying and stop being so lazy to accuse someone of such stupidity because you couldn't be bothered to do the research necessary to defend such a phony accusation.

You can call me a neocon or a socialist all you like because that just rolls off my back.
But stop calling me your "friend" because that's something I don't EVER imagine would be possible with a blowhard like you!
 
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Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: Trump took actions giving Ukraine weapons to defend themselves BEFORE Russia invaded, didn't he, nitwit?
That's what I said. Trump gave AMERICANS' wealth to foreigners.
Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: And if Biden hadn't stolen the 2020 election, Russia would NEVER have invaded Ukraine.  To me, that was a worthy investment.  But once Russia didn't have to fear Trump any longer and invaded, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE SPENT ANOTHER DIME THERE!
Russia went decades without attacking Ukraine, with no input from America. Setting up a coup government and arming it is what caused the invasion - not a lack of fear.

Contrary to your implicit stance, fear of america is not what stops every country on earth from attacking its neighbors.

If anything, Trump played his role in giving Russia good reason to attack its neighbor.
Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: I trust that you wore your stubby fingers to the bone searching for a post where I supported Biden's wild spending in Ukraine, didn't you?
Find anything, ******?
Your faith is misplaced, fruitcake. My formerly nicotine-stained fingers never touched a key. You running from the fact that you're an Israel-Firster satisfied me.
Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: And while you're at it, you might as well search for any post I've EVER made that promoted an "Israel first" agenda in this country.
So stop your lying and stop being so lazy to accuse someone of such stupidity because you couldn't be bothered to do the research necessary to defend such a phony accusation.

You can call me a neocon or a socialist all you like because that just rolls off my back.
But stop calling me your "friend" because that's something I don't EVER imagine would be possible with a blowhard like you!
Now, Zeke, there's no reason to take it personal that you put the interests of Israel above those of your own country.

You're a neocon and a socialist - just own it, man. C'mon, man. You're a dog faced pony soldier.
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Zeets2 » 26 Aug 2024, 10:50 am » wrote: Did Reagan get unanimous reports from his top military advisers that he refused to follow the way Biden did?

Or is this just another of your own feeble attempt to create the impression that other presidents took the same kind of ill-advised steps and ignored their military advisors DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE WEREN'T AT WAR WITH LEBANON AS WE WERE IN AFGHANISTAN?
Nor were we pulling out...
 
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ROG62 » 05 Sep 2024, 7:18 pm » wrote: Nor were we pulling out...
^^^^^
Can never decide when MuriQUEER

should illegally occupy countries or not.  

Empire Neocon Roggy.
 
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Sumela » 05 Sep 2024, 8:02 pm » wrote: ^^^^^
Can never decide when MuriQUEER

should illegally occupy countries or not.  

Empire Neocon Roggy.
You and I had this discussion...I've never agreed with US foreign policies regarding occupation...so cut the ****..
 
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Zeets2 » 05 Sep 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: Trump took actions giving Ukraine weapons to defend themselves BEFORE Russia invaded, didn't he, nitwit?
And if Biden hadn't stolen the 2020 election, Russia would NEVER have invaded Ukraine.  To me, that was a worthy investment. 
To EVERY socialist, EVERY "investment" they make with other people's money is "worthy," you dunce. 
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maineman » 26 Aug 2024, 10:11 am » wrote: Three years ago:

Kabul:  One suicide bomber
13 American dead, 100 (est) Afghanis dead

Folks here claim it was the most embarrassing moment in American history.  Joe Biden is a horrible president for letting it happen.

Let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we?

April 1983.  Beirut, Lebanon

One suicide bomber in an explosives-laden truck drives right into the courtyard of the US Embassy on the corniche in West Beirut, drives right up under the building's porte-cochère, and detonates.  63 dead:  32 Lebanese, 17 Americans, 14 visitors and passers-by.

Oddly enough, even though the previous Naval Attache, a Marine Colonel, had strongly recommended cement security barriers in front of the embassy, none had been installed.

Same City. Five months and two days later

One suicide bomber in an explosives-laden truck drives right up the front stairs of the US Marine barracks at the Beirut International Airport, drives right into the front lobby, and detonates.  241 Dead Marines.

Oddly enough, even after a suicide bomber had used the exact same weapon in the exact same manner in the same city against the only OTHER US target in that city, cement security barriers had still not been installed.

Same City. 362 days later.

One suicide bomber in an explosives-laden truck drives right up into the courtyard of the brand new US Embassy in a posh neighborhood of East Beirut.  drives right up next to the building and detonates.  23 dead.  2 US servicemen, 21 Lebanese.  Both the US Ambassador to Lebanon and the British Ambassador to Lebanon were both injured in the blast.

Oddly enough, even after suicide bombers had used the exact same weapons in the exact same manner in the same city against TWO  OTHER US targets in that city, cement security barriers had STILL not been installed at the new Embassy either.

Folks here don't even remember it, and they think that Ronald Reagan - who was the president for all three of those suicide bombing attacks and who had the blood of all 327 casualties on his trembling hands - they think he was a **** God, and they name airports after him.

Curious, perhaps?

Hypocritical, perhaps?

Discuss.
Aimed at the Lebanese. ........
Thread Fail......
 
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Majik » 05 Sep 2024, 9:54 pm » wrote: Aimed at the Lebanese. ........
Thread Fail......

The US Marine barracks?  The US Embassy?  Twice?

Lebanese?

WTF?
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Cannonpointer » 05 Sep 2024, 9:51 pm » wrote: To EVERY socialist, EVERY "investment" they make with other people's money is "worthy," you dunce.
Then I guess I don't qualify as a socialist according to your warped definition, since I DO NOT consider most government "investments" to be worthy.
And if you require further proof, just go and review any one of my posts regarding the trillions of dollars that both Obama and Biden threw at the hoax of "climate change", buying oil from terrorist countries when we have an ample supply of our own, paying off deadbeat student loans, subsidies for electric vehicles, "green energy" tax credits, or the hundreds of billions for free child care and free preschool.

If you need more examples to mollify a self-appointed expert like yourself, just ask.
 
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Zeets2 » 06 Sep 2024, 8:58 am » wrote:
Cannonpointer » 05 Sep 2024, 9:51 pm » wrote: To EVERY socialist, EVERY "investment" they make with other people's money is "worthy," you dunce.
Then I guess I don't qualify as a socialist according to your warped definition, since I DO NOT consider most government "investments" to be worthy.
Reading comprehension issues.^

No socialist considers EVERY giveaway "worthy." Just the ones THEY support, socialist.

Here's a thought: If you wanna support ukraine and israel, do it with your own money, you freak. Not with mine.
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Cannonpointer » 06 Sep 2024, 9:16 am » wrote: Reading comprehension issues.^

No socialist considers EVERY giveaway "worthy." Just the ones THEY support, socialist.

Here's a thought: If you wanna support ukraine and israel, do it with your own money, you freak. Not with mine.
My comprehension is just fine!
YOU'RE the idiot who tried to claim that "EVERY SOCIALIST" believes that "EVERY INVESTMENT" is worthy, and I just proved to you that I don't qualify as a socialist under your idiotic definition, so now you have to change it?

And you think I HAVE READING COMPREHENSION ISSUES!!??!?  
What a dolt!    :rofl:   :die:  
 
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