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*Nucleus » 30 Aug 2024, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:28 am

@Blackvegetable  RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

https://youtu.be/dAY3jAmgGcM

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/fede ... itutional/

I stand my ground & pound.

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:29 am

I stand my ground & pound.

No, you would huddle in the duplex with your Binky.

The ruling will probably be overturned because the USSC has already ruled that the machine gun regulations are constitutional.

I suggest you do not participate in another firearms discussion.  You are not intellectually armed for it.    

*Huey » 30 Aug 2024, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:34 am

No, you would huddle in the duplex with your Binky.

The ruling will probably be overturned because the USSC has already ruled that the machine gun regulations are constitutional.

I suggest you do not participate in another firearms discussion.  You are not intellectually armed for it.  

I stood my ground & pounded.

The ruling will probably be overturned because the USSC has already ruled that the machine gun regulations are constitutional.

Bold stand.

I suggest you do not participate in another firearms discussion.  You are not intellectually armed for it.

It's quite simple, really...

the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design
 
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:39 am

I stood my ground & pounded.

Bold stand.

It's quite simple, really...

the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design

Notice you have not taken ANY stand.  Just attempting hijack and control the conversation.

That has nothing to do with this conversation.  If you wish to discuss the differences between a semi auto sports rifle and what the government deems a machine gun are welcome to do so here:

viewtopic.php?p=2581413#p2581413

This thread is about a Federal Judge in Kansas tossing 2 machine gun possession counts against a defendant.

There is no argument on whether or not they were actual machine guns.  Please stay on topic or go to existing threads to make your case.


Broomes, an appointee of President Donald Trump, on Wednesday dismissed two machine gun possession counts against Tamori Morgan, who was indicted last year. Morgan was accused of possessing a model AM-15 .300-caliber machine gun and a machine gun conversion device known as a “Glock switch” that can make a semi-automatic weapon fire like a machine gun.“The court finds that the Second Amendment applies to the weapons charged because they are ‘bearable arms’ within the original meaning of the amendment,” Broomes wrote. He added that the government “has the burden to show that the regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical firearm regulation tradition.”


https://apnews.com/article/machine-guns ... 21571811ce
 

*Huey » 30 Aug 2024, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:47 am

Notice you have not taken ANY stand.  Just attempting hijack and control the conversation.

That has nothing to do with this conversation.  If you wish to discuss the differences between a semi auto sports rifle and what the government deems a machine gun are welcome to do so here:

viewtopic.php?p=2581413#p2581413

This thread is about a Federal Judge in Kansas tossing 2 machine gun possession counts against a defendant.

There is no argument on whether or not they were actual machine guns.  Please stay on topic or go to existing threads to make your case.

Broomes, an appointee of President Donald Trump, on Wednesday dismissed two machine gun possession counts against Tamori Morgan, who was indicted last year. Morgan was accused of possessing a model AM-15 .300-caliber machine gun and a machine gun conversion device known as a “Glock switch” that can make a semi-automatic weapon fire like a machine gun.“The court finds that the Second Amendment applies to the weapons charged because they are ‘bearable arms’ within the original meaning of the amendment,” Broomes wrote. He added that the government “has the burden to show that the regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical firearm regulation tradition.”

https://apnews.com/article/machine-guns ... 21571811ce

Are these your words, Yappy?

No, you would huddle in the duplex with your Binky.

....

I suggest you do not participate in another firearms discussion.  You are not intellectually armed for it.

 

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:29 am

I stand my ground & pound.

POUND SAND
I AM BUYING A MACHINE GUN
 

*Huey » 30 Aug 2024, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:47 am

Notice you have not taken ANY stand.  Just attempting hijack and control the conversation.

That has nothing to do with this conversation.  If you wish to discuss the differences between a semi auto sports rifle and what the government deems a machine gun are welcome to do so here:

viewtopic.php?p=2581413#p2581413

This thread is about a Federal Judge in Kansas tossing 2 machine gun possession counts against a defendant.

There is no argument on whether or not they were actual machine guns.  Please stay on topic or go to existing threads to make your case.

Broomes, an appointee of President Donald Trump, on Wednesday dismissed two machine gun possession counts against Tamori Morgan, who was indicted last year. Morgan was accused of possessing a model AM-15 .300-caliber machine gun and a machine gun conversion device known as a “Glock switch” that can make a semi-automatic weapon fire like a machine gun.“The court finds that the Second Amendment applies to the weapons charged because they are ‘bearable arms’ within the original meaning of the amendment,” Broomes wrote. He added that the government “has the burden to show that the regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical firearm regulation tradition.”

https://apnews.com/article/machine-guns ... 21571811ce

and a machine gun conversion device known as a “Glock switch” that can make a semi-automatic weapon fire like a machine gun.“

"machine gun conversion device"?

“The court finds that the Second Amendment applies to the weapons charged because they are ‘bearable arms’ within the original meaning of the amendment,” Broomes wrote. He added that the government “has the burden to show that the regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical firearm regulation tradition.”

where **** legal reasoning leads....

Will Free Ride offer the lone dissent, again?

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:53 am

"machine gun conversion device"?

where **** legal reasoning leads....

Will Free Ride offer the lone dissent, again?

Take a stand.......

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:50 am

Are these your words, Yappy?

NO QUESTIONS, DICK SUCKER!

https://i.postimg.cc/rF6VjZNN/image.png
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 30 Aug 2024, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 12:07 pm

NO QUESTIONS, DICK SUCKER!

https://i.postimg.cc/rF6VjZNN/image.png

that guy   
 

*Nucleus » 30 Aug 2024, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 11:28 am

@Blackvegetable  RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

https://youtu.be/dAY3jAmgGcM

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/fede ... itutional/

@Blackvegetable  

I got this just for you:

*Huey » 30 Aug 2024, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 12:25 pm

@Blackvegetable  

I got this just for you:

Questions scare @*soybottoms...


 

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 12:53 pm

Questions scare @*soybottoms...

Tell you what, Low T.  This was what you typed:

"machine gun conversion device"?

So....what is it you want to know?  I guess you are unaware of what a Glock Switch is, what is does, and the fact that the ATF classifies it as a machine gun like they do an auto sear.  

Does this clear up your confusion and ignorance?
 

*Huey » 30 Aug 2024, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 12:25 pm

@Blackvegetable  

I got this just for you:

Where the white women at?

*Huey » 30 Aug 2024, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 12:59 pm

Tell you what, Low T.  This was what you typed:

So....what is it you want to know?  I guess you are unaware of what a Glock Switch is, what is does, and the fact that the ATF .classifies it as a machine gun like they do an auto sear.  

Does this clear up your confusion and ignorance?

Tiny,

Bruen is a piece of **** which will be taken down by a thousand cuts...unless the Constitution makes specific reference to "auto-sears", the ATF prohibition is in conflict with recently established standards.

This is, of course, patently silly...SCOTUS will reverse 8-1 with someone tasked with writing a majority opinion which doesn't make Free Ride look like the putz he is. Free Ride will submit a surly dissent.
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 1:10 pm

Tiny,

Bruen is a piece of **** which will be taken down by a thousand cuts...unless the Constitution makes specific reference to "auto-sears", the ATF prohibition is in conflict with recently established standards.

This is, of course, patently silly...SCOTUS will reverse 8-1 with someone tasked with writing a majority opinion which doesn't make Free Ride look like the putz he is. Free Ride will submit a surly dissent.

Who is Bruen?
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 1:10 pm

Tiny,

Bruen is a piece of **** which will be taken down by a thousand cuts...unless the Constitution makes specific reference to "auto-sears", the ATF prohibition is in conflict with recently established standards.

This is, of course, patently silly...SCOTUS will reverse 8-1 with someone tasked with writing a majority opinion which doesn't make Free Ride look like the putz he is. Free Ride will submit a surly dissent.

I already told you it was probably going to be overturned so no, that is not some ground breaking position.

The USSC has already ruled on machine guns. And it is not an ATF prohibition, moron.  You can still get them.  BUT, it is the same process as obtaining a NFA weapon (machine gun)

But in 1981, the ATF ruled that an auto sear is, legally, a machine gun. Without the proper licensing and taxes paid, possession of one of the devices is punishable with up to 10 years in prison.

https://www.thetrace.org/2022/06/atf-au ... ck-switch/

Please educate yourself on the topic's material.
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Aug 2024, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2024, 1:10 pm

Tiny,

Bruen is a piece of **** which will be taken down by a thousand cuts...unless the Constitution makes specific reference to "auto-sears", the ATF prohibition is in conflict with recently established standards.

This is, of course, patently silly...SCOTUS will reverse 8-1 with someone tasked with writing a majority opinion which doesn't make Free Ride look like the putz he is. Free Ride will submit a surly dissent.

Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said the "historical tradition" test for gun rules that the court created in its landmark 2022 decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen is “unworkable.” 

Rather than evaluating whether a gun rule is a justifiable way of addressing a modern problem, judges must sift through centuries-old evidence to find a previous law that’s roughly equivalent, she wrote in a concurring opinion joined by Justice Sonia Sotomayor.

For example, in the case decided June 18, Justice Neil Gorsuch cited the drinking habits of the founding fathers as evidence that historical laws restricting the rights of habitual drinkers were not a good match for a modern law that makes it a crime for a regular marijuana user to have a gun. 

“Had habitual drunkard laws applied to those who simply drank regularly," he wrote, "many notable early Americans could have faced trouble."

Jackson agreed with that reasoning but said the test itself is bad. She said the court should consider in a future case “whether to retire the failed Bruen experiment.”  

The court, which has a conservative 6-3 majority, split along ideological lines when deciding Bruen in a case that expanded the Second Amendment right to bear arms outside the home.

Two years later, all but Justice Clarence Thomas signed onto an opinion that made it easier to apply the historical tradition test. 

But lower courts are still having trouble applying it. 

Jonathan Lowy, president of Global Action on Gun Violence, said Jackson is exactly right that judges are not equipped to play historians and the Bruen test should be scrapped.

“While the court was correct that a gummy at bedtime should not automatically disqualify someone from guns, that’s because of 2026 views on marijuana use, not because of 18th or 19th century laws that now determine the fate of all gun laws,” he said in a statement. “Twenty-first century gun violence can’t be solved with 18th century solutions.” 
 
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