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nefarious101 » 25 Sep 2024, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 9:58 am

in what world do yo live?  If the neighbor came to your house and killed members and said they are coming back to kill the rest of you, would moral high ground be your first and only concern?  

That pager thing was brilliant....James Bond **** completely....followed up with the explosive walkies the next day was the icing on the cake.  Joos 1 radical islamo-fascists 0

Majik » 25 Sep 2024, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 10:25 am

It wasn't brilliant..... it was pure unadulterated terrorism and a war crime.
Which killed and maimed more innocent Lebanese than Hezbollah fighters.
 While you champion that Terrorism .....
You fail to understand that what Israel has done is destroy any semblance of ethical rules of engagement in this conflict and has now opened the gates for the return of the bomb belt or much worse.
You claim that Israel's security will be strengthened by all of this ....
When the Truth is .....
It will have the opposite effect....
Just as it will have the opposite effect here in North America as well.....in relation to our own security.....
Neocons will be Neocons ....

Majik » 25 Sep 2024, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 10:25 am

It wasn't brilliant..... it was pure unadulterated terrorism and a war crime.
Which killed and maimed more innocent Lebanese than Hezbollah fighters.
 While you champion that Terrorism .....
You fail to understand that what Israel has done is destroy any semblance of ethical rules of engagement in this conflict and has now opened the gates for the return of the bomb belt or much worse.
You claim that Israel's security will be strengthened by all of this ....
When the Truth is .....
It will have the opposite effect....
Just as it will have the opposite effect here in North America as well.....in relation to our own security.....
Neocons will be Neocons ....

Majik » 25 Sep 2024, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 9:53 am

Source?

“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” LAVRENTIY BERIA

Majik » 25 Sep 2024, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 10:04 am

Shouldn't Israel be held to a higher standard of ethics considering it claims to be moral and just while doing this ....I think it wouldn’t be right to say a country is bad or wrong in its entirety, but many of Israel’s actions are deplorable.

1. It continues to occupy pieces of Syria and Palestine and Lebanon for 53 years now and refuses to leave them despite continuous UN appeals.
2. It unilaterally and illegally annexed pieces of those territories.
3. It builds illegal civilian settlements in occupied territory, on territories taking from indigenous, occupied population.
4. It forced out / didn’t let back in hundreds of thousands of indigenous population from its land in 1947–1949 and later, changing the ethnic composition of its territory completely. It confiscated their land too.
5. It destroyed a number of cultural and religious sites, even quite important in history (like the mosque of Al-Husayn in Ascalon).
6. Arab citizens are treaten as second-class citizens; it is a state of Jewish nation, not of all of its citizens, and this shows in many aspects.
7. In occupied territories; its forces used human shields several times, even children. Indigenous population is not adequately protected from attacks by radical Israel settlers, who f.e. vandalise their churches and mosques, cut their orchards etc. Also, indigenous population is virtually deprived of possibilities to build new houses or new wells etc, and Israel even happened to demolish repaired ancient wells (repaired with help of foreign charity organisations). Israel also makes transport and living there hard for the population, as well as uses excessive force and collective responsibility, resulting in many deaths, mostly civilians, often children.
8. Unlike what Israel tries to say, wars of 1956, 1967, 1978, 1982 etc. with Israel’s neighbours were started by Israel, which launched offensive, even if it had some pretext for this, good (in 1967 it was good) or not. Only wars in 1973 and 1948 were clearly started by Israel’s neighbours.
9. Israel used its secret services in questionable ways. For example, in Lavon affair, Israeli spies were targetting western, including American, objects in Egypt, trying to pose it as work of Egyptian radicals, to spoil relations between USA and the West in general and Egypt. Not so nice, is it.
10. Israel often tries to make really outrageous excuses for its actions, blaming the victims or trying to present valid criticisement of Israeli state’s actions as antisemitism. Which is dangerous for battling actual antisemitism too.

“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” LAVRENTIY BERIA

RebelGator » 25 Sep 2024, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 11:33 am

Meanwhile, you ignore the missiles dropping daily on Israeli neighborhoods.

ROG62 » 25 Sep 2024, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 12:24 pm

Everyone should be held to the same standards...

who is the arbiter of standards and does anyone ever adhere to them?

history says no...

Majik » 25 Sep 2024, 6:52 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 6:52 pm

Hahahahaha!!!!!!
NOBODY, AND I MEAN NOBODY.....
Is ignoring the missiles .....that have killed ......what? 10 maybe 20 people since the fighting began....
How can they ?
With constant media attention and Jew money pushing their narratives.....

While Israel has killed and maimed a hundred thousand ...many of which....were women and children...how much primitive immorality do you Harbour?

Majik » 25 Sep 2024, 7:30 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 7:30 pm

History does not say...."No".....

That is a fallacy.....

There is something called "common decency" that every true "civilized"....civilization that has ever come into being ..MOSTLY adheres too...
and encompasses...
civility, correctness, courtesy, decorum, dignity, good manners, honesty,  modesty, propriety, righteousness,  laws and virtue.......
Without those ....No "True" civilization could arise....EVER....
According to the human condition.....you have no faith in ....

RebelGator » 25 Sep 2024, 7:45 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 7:45 pm

How many would the missiles have killed if the Israelis didn't shoot down 90% of the incoming?
Don't dare talk about immorality when the Jews are fighting defensive battles against terrorists....if your scumbags weren't hiding behind and using women and children as shields, the collateral numbers would decrease dramatically.

Majik » Yesterday, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:16 am

How long will it be before China and Russia learn how to blow up their foes’ gadgets, asks one pundit, exposing the West’s collective delusion

On September 17, Israel launched one of the largest and cruelest terrorist attacks in modern history. For Lebanon and Syria, the victim countries, 9/17 will now have a meaning akin to that of 9/11 in the US. That date will be remembered for a very long time, and beyond those two states, as the start of two waves of explosions, mostly affecting pagers on the first day and walkie-talkies the following day. There have been reports of other everyday objects, such as laptops and tablets as well as solar energy systems blowing up as well.While some details are still murky, we already know that the attacks were devastating: According to an Amnesty International summary from September 20, more than 2,931 victims were injured and at least 37 were killed. Amnesty International tends to be cautious and conservative with its figures, and it is still too early for a full assessment of casualties and damage. It is certain that the final count will be worse.Events are moving fast. The onslaught seems to have served to either provoke or start a larger war; UN General Secretary António Guterres quickly – and plausibly – suspected that 9/17 was meant as a preventive strike and prelude to a larger escalation. It has been followed by more and increasingly brutal bombings and massacres, in the manner that we know so well from the rogue state Israel. For now, it is already clear that after a horrific scene of mass terror in shops, streets, and homes, many of the victims of 9/17 have been injured severely, often leaving them with “life-changing injuries.” 

Continued....

Sumela » 25 Sep 2024, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 12:55 pm

     

Lil Zelle snorting up 1 million dead Uke lives....  

Bidencrimefamily » 25 Sep 2024, 10:39 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 10:39 pm

We have had that for years. It's not special.

LowIQTrash » 26 Sep 2024, 12:25 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 12:25 am

Time to shovel more "taxpayer dollars" to Ukraine, because conservatives are so...fiscally conservative 

Sumela » 26 Sep 2024, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 8:28 am

 CONtards were never fiscally conservative or for "small govt".  Those were posturing lies.
CONtards do not hate BIG GOVT.....

They are just pissed when they arent in charge of BIG GOVT & BIG WARS  

LowIQTrash » 26 Sep 2024, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 9:58 am

DUBYA was their “role model”…he was someone you could sit down and have a beer with =O