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This BLANKET Pardon of Hunter Biden, and potentially ANYONE associated with his (Joe Bidens) administration, is an ABSOLUTE ABUSE of Power... JUST like their Law-FARE attempts, their CORRUPTION and PROFITING from foreign influence peddling, AND his attempts to SUBVERT the Constitution, Constitutional RIGHTS, and the RULE of LAW !

Ron DeSantis is RIGHT... and THIS needs to be FOUGHT... RIGHT UP to the Supreme court if necessary... on the basis of the ABUSE of POWER that IS !!

https://youtu.be/LIdmPZa1oP8
 

It is what it is pardons are a bitch if you don’t like em but it’s part of the system

BuckNaked » 10 Dec 2024, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 10:29 am

It is what it is pardons are a bitch if you don’t like em but it’s part of the system

BITCH MY *** !!  There is a Constitutional question here... for 250 years there has been an assumption that the "Pardon" clause was intended for the President to pardon a few people who the President thinks may have been political victims or have done their time... BUT, to pardon someone for EVERYTHING they MAY, or MAY NOT, have done since 2016... which may include: 1) CORRUPTION of the office of the President, 2) Influence peddling for PROFIT, and 3) TREASON ?  ...is an UTTER BASTARDIZATION of the Constitution.  ALSO, Joe Bidens OTHER considerations, of Pardoning EVERYONE in his administration who may have been guilty of ABUSES of POWER, Obstructions of Justice, CORRUPTION, ABUSES of the Citizens of the United States... or anything ELSE of the SORT.... is an utter ABOMINATION... and will encourage OTHER Presidents to ABUSE their power, and then ABSOLVE EVERYONE who DID the THEIR ILLEGAL and UNETHICAL bidding... DESPITE the LAW...  and TURN it into CORRUPTION as USUAL, where CORRUPTION is the RULE and NOT PUNISHABLE by the LAW... by EDICT of the President of the United States... and the Supreme Court MUST END it BEFORE it begins !!!

BITCH my *** !!... IF Pardons don't have limits... then America is on a slippery slope to HELL... JUST because of the ABUSES of Joe Biden !!  IT MUST END NOW... BEFORE it BEGINS !!
 

BuckNaked » 10 Dec 2024, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 10:29 am

It is what it is pardons are a bitch if you don’t like em but it’s part of the system

Well said...
 

ROG62 » 10 Dec 2024, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:29 am

Well said...

I would be SHOCKED if Donald Trump, and his administration, don't take this STRAIGHT to the Supreme Court... because it is a COMPLETE and UTTER Bastardization of the Pardon Right under the Constitution... and turning it into a POWER that the Constitution NEVER intended the President of the United States to have...

It's probably GOOD if it happens NOW... because it would have happened sometime.. and NOW is as good of a time to SQUASH it as ever !!

ConservativeWave » 10 Dec 2024, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:36 am

I would be SHOCKED if Donald Trump, and his administration, don't take this STRAIGHT to the Supreme Court... because it is a COMPLETE and UTTER Bastardization of the Pardon Right under the Constitution... and turning it into a POWER that the Constitution NEVER intended the President of the United States to have...

It's probably GOOD if it happens NOW... because it would have happened sometime.. and NOW is as good of a time to SQUASH it as ever !!

You will change your tune when tRump starts pardoning criminals again
 

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Mrkelly » 10 Dec 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:42 am

You will change your tune when tRump starts pardoning criminals again

Many pardons are giving to people that already served jail time...


 

ConservativeWave » 10 Dec 2024, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:36 am

I would be SHOCKED if Donald Trump, and his administration, don't take this STRAIGHT to the Supreme Court... because it is a COMPLETE and UTTER Bastardization of the Pardon Right under the Constitution... and turning it into a POWER that the Constitution NEVER intended the President of the United States to have...

It's probably GOOD if it happens NOW... because it would have happened sometime.. and NOW is as good of a time to SQUASH it as ever !!

Unfortunately, I don't think they'll touch it as they're an equal branch...besides, be careful what you wish for as that **** always comes back to bite them in the ***...
 

AtticusFinch » 10 Dec 2024, 11:52 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:52 am

Pardon me

but have you talked to MM    lately?

and have you convinced him to let me suck his dick?   
 

  Damn Z09
 

ROG62 » 10 Dec 2024, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:55 am

Unfortunately, I don't think they'll touch it as they're an equal branch...besides, be careful what you wish for as that **** always comes back to bite them in the ***...

Heard an interesting perspective on the ABUSIVE "pardons" that Biden is proposing to escape responsibility for the Weaponization of the Federal Government... that Biden is trying to cover up... and it goes something like this:

The pardons WILL NOT stop Congressional Committee's and other government agencies from investigating the wrong doing that occurred (REGARDLESS of the "Pardons").. SO, when witnesses are brought in for questioning, those who have been pardoned would be IDEAL candidates !  The can NO LONGER plead the 5th (because they have been pardoned)... and so, the will have to answer any questions HONESTLY, or be subject to PERJURY charges, and/or Obstruction of Justice... WHICH WILL NOT be covered by the pardons...

So, SINCE those pardoned have no recourse BUT to tell the truth... their testimony could BLOW he TOP off of what was going on in Washington, under the control and over site of Democrats, EVEN THOUGH THEY could not be charged... IT COULD become a BIGGER FIASCO than Watergate, MUCH BIGGER than if the pardons were NEVER granted !!

AT THE VERY LEAST... It will be FUN to see how it all plays out !!

ConservativeWave » 11 Dec 2024, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 2:49 pm

Heard an interesting perspective on the ABUSIVE "pardons" that Biden is proposing to escape responsibility for the Weaponization of the Federal Government... that Biden is trying to cover up... and it goes something like this:

The pardons WILL NOT stop Congressional Committee's and other government agencies from investigating the wrong doing that occurred (REGARDLESS of the "Pardons").. SO, when witnesses are brought in for questioning, those who have been pardoned would be IDEAL candidates !  The can NO LONGER plead the 5th (because they have been pardoned)... and so, the will have to answer any questions HONESTLY, or be subject to PERJURY charges, and/or Obstruction of Justice... WHICH WILL NOT be covered by the pardons...

So, SINCE those pardoned have no recourse BUT to tell the truth... their testimony could BLOW he TOP off of what was going on in Washington, under the control and over site of Democrats, EVEN THOUGH THEY could not be charged... IT COULD become a BIGGER FIASCO than Watergate, MUCH BIGGER than if the pardons were NEVER granted !!

AT THE VERY LEAST... It will be FUN to see how it all plays out !!

I heard that as well...once pardoned, the 5th doesn't apply...
 

ConservativeWave » 10 Dec 2024, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 10:23 am

This BLANKET Pardon of Hunter Biden, and potentially ANYONE associated with his (Joe Bidens) administration, is an ABSOLUTE ABUSE of Power... JUST like their Law-FARE attempts, their CORRUPTION and PROFITING from foreign influence peddling, AND his attempts to SUBVERT the Constitution, Constitutional RIGHTS, and the RULE of LAW !

Ron DeSantis is RIGHT... and THIS needs to be FOUGHT... RIGHT UP to the Supreme court if necessary... on the basis of the ABUSE of POWER that IS !!

https://youtu.be/LIdmPZa1oP8

Desantis is a good governor but he's also a mediocre checker-player at best.  Pam Bondi needs to come up with the right strategy to get any blanket pardons properly before the Supreme Court in a way that the Justices don't just **** it right back at them.

Remember when the first time you stuck your dick in a ****** and it exploded in a useless mess?  You were likely embarrassed, the girl was sadly disappointed and you had to wait to even try again.  Seems like Desantis still has that problem.
 

Skans » 12 Dec 2024, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 9:26 am

Desantis is a good governor but he's also a mediocre checker-player at best.  Pam Bondi needs to come up with the right strategy to get any blanket pardons properly before the Supreme Court in a way that the Justices don't just **** it right back at them.

Remember when the first time you stuck your dick in a ****** and it exploded in a useless mess?  You were likely embarrassed, the girl was sadly disappointed and you had to wait to even try again.  Seems like Desantis still has that problem.

You're correct... there is a process, and the process is important !  but...

That said... I like Desantis... He's a smart guy and usually wants to do what's RIGHT, FOR the RIGHT reasons, and USUALLY doesn't go off, half cocked... If put in the position... he'll do what needs to be done !!

ConservativeWave » 12 Dec 2024, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 9:55 am

You're correct... there is a process, and the process is important !  but...

That said... I like Desantis... He's a smart guy and usually wants to do what's RIGHT, FOR the RIGHT reasons, and USUALLY doesn't go off, half cocked... If put in the position... he'll do what needs to be done !!

I like Desantis too. He is a good governor and knows how to run a state. I also agree he wants to do what's right for the right reasons. 

However, Desantis is not a real "smart guy" - he has above-average intelligence. And, he sure-as-**** is prone to going off half-cocked. Did you listen to the roll-out of his presidential-campaign?  I listened to the entire painful thing.  Half-cocked is describing that disaster mildly. He shat himself with that ill-planned debut.  And, what was his "end-game" in fighting Disney?  Good start, but he had no endgame in mind before going down that road - the definition of "half-cocked".

I can like and support a good Republican, but be critical of that person at the same time.  Democrats cover-up weakness within their ranks.  Republicans should strive never to do that.  That doesn't mean cannibalize our top team players either.  But, a little critical self-analysis can be good.
 

Skans » 12 Dec 2024, 10:02 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 10:02 am

I like Desantis too. He is a good governor and knows how to run a state. I also agree he wants to do what's right for the right reasons. 

However, Desantis is not a real "smart guy" - he has above-average intelligence. And, he sure-as-**** is prone to going off half-cocked. Did you listen to the roll-out of his presidential-campaign?  I listened to the entire painful thing.  Half-cocked is describing that disaster mildly. He shat himself with that ill-planned debut.  And, what was his "end-game" in fighting Disney?  Good start, but he had no endgame in mind before going down that road - the definition of "half-cocked".

I can like and support a good Republican, but be critical of that person at the same time.  Democrats cover-up weakness within their ranks.  Republicans should strive never to do that.  That doesn't mean cannibalize our top team players either.  But, a little critical self-analysis can be good.

Yea, I think I watched that too... I left it feeling that DeSantis "Wasn't Ready" for the BIG chair... and that his time might be in the future !  It seems that a LOT of Republicans felt the same way.  STILL, I think he can HELP Trump "Over-Haul the CORRUPT American Bureaucracy"... and I think he will !

We should NOT let "PERFECTION" be the enemy of the "GOOD" !
 
 

ConservativeWave » 12 Dec 2024, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 10:12 am

We should NOT let "PERFECTION" be the enemy of the "GOOD" !
 

A very wise statement.
 

Mrkelly » 10 Dec 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:42 am

You will change your tune when tRump starts pardoning criminals again

he will say trump  is a genius and a true american president using his presidency to advance his ideals.

ConservativeWave » 10 Dec 2024, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2024, 11:27 am

BITCH MY *** !!  There is a Constitutional question here... for 250 years there has been an assumption that the "Pardon" clause was intended for the President to pardon a few people who the President thinks may have been political victims or have done their time... BUT, to pardon someone for EVERYTHING they MAY, or MAY NOT, have done since 2016... which may include: 1) CORRUPTION of the office of the President, 2) Influence peddling for PROFIT, and 3) TREASON ?  ...is an UTTER BASTARDIZATION of the Constitution.  ALSO, Joe Bidens OTHER considerations, of Pardoning EVERYONE in his administration who may have been guilty of ABUSES of POWER, Obstructions of Justice, CORRUPTION, ABUSES of the Citizens of the United States... or anything ELSE of the SORT.... is an utter ABOMINATION... and will encourage OTHER Presidents to ABUSE their power, and then ABSOLVE EVERYONE who DID the THEIR ILLEGAL and UNETHICAL bidding... DESPITE the LAW...  and TURN it into CORRUPTION as USUAL, where CORRUPTION is the RULE and NOT PUNISHABLE by the LAW... by EDICT of the President of the United States... and the Supreme Court MUST END it BEFORE it begins !!!

BITCH my *** !!... IF Pardons don't have limits... then America is on a slippery slope to HELL... JUST because of the ABUSES of Joe Biden !!  IT MUST END NOW... BEFORE it BEGINS !!

Does the constitution state all those limits?

ROG62 » 11 Dec 2024, 6:44 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 6:44 pm

I heard that as well...once pardoned, the 5th doesn't apply...

how about all the trump people using the fifth?