FL Gov. Desantis speaks out on Joe Bidens Pardon of Hunter... and the ABUSE of POWER that it is !!

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Mrkelly » 10 Dec 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑ You will change your tune when tRump starts pardoning criminals again
they ok anything trump

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Former professor and Trump lawyer John Eastman, who spoke to a crowd of supporters at the “Stop the Steal” rally on 6 January, has invoked his constitutional protection rights against self-incrimination nearly 150 times, according to reports.Dr Eastman is among a number of those in Trump’s circle who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, after receiving subpoenas relating to the insurrection on 6 January. According to CNN, Dr Eastman refused to answer questions 146 times.“Dr Eastman has a more than reasonable fear that any statements he makes pursuant to this subpoena will be used in an attempt to mount a criminal investigation against him,” Mr Eastman’s lawyer, Charles Burnham, told the 6 January committee in a letter on Wednesday. However, a federal judge on Monday ordered Dr Eastman to respond to another committee subpoena – one sent to his former employer, Chapman University.
 
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BuckNaked » 12 Dec 2024, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑ Does the constitution state all those limits?
THIS is what the Constitution says:

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Someone could make the case that THAT might NOT include offenses against the "Constitutional RIGHTS of an individual" (i.e. Donald Trump)"... but only against the PROPERTY, INSTITUTION, or EMBLEMS of the "United States"... AND THAT, Pardoning a SON who may have engaged in TREASON... and/or ENTIRE segments, and departments, of the Government, that were weaponized AGAINST Donald Trump, and in effect... Abuses against "We the PEOPLE"... and LEADING to the subversion of MILLIONS of persons from THEIR Constitutional RIGHTS... THAT, MIGHT be going a bit over the line... based on a Presidential power, that is delineated by ONE sentence, and 20 words, in the U.S. Constitution !!

 
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ConservativeWave » 12 Dec 2024, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑ THIS is what the Constitution says:

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Someone could make the case that THAT might NOT include offenses against the "Constitutional RIGHTS of an individual" (i.e. Donald Trump)"... but only against the PROPERTY, INSTITUTION, or EMBLEMS of the "United States"... AND THAT, Pardoning a SON who may have engaged in TREASON... and/or ENTIRE segments, and departments, of the Government, that were weaponized AGAINST Donald Trump, and in effect... Abuses against "We the PEOPLE"... and LEADING to the subversion of MILLIONS of persons from THEIR Constitutional RIGHTS... THAT, MIGHT be going a bit over the line... based on a Presidential power, that is delineated by ONE sentence, and 20 words, in the U.S. Constitution !!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------PHOENIX (AP) — A Republican activist who signed a document falsely claiming Donald Trump had won Arizona in 2020 became the first person to be convicted in the state’s fake elector case.Loraine Pellegrino, a past president of the group Ahwatukee Republican Women, has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of filing a false document, Arizona Attorney General’s Office spokesperson Richie Taylor said Tuesday, declining to comment further. Records documenting her guilty plea haven’t yet been posted by the court. Still, court records show Pellegrino was sentenced to unsupervised probation. Before the plea, she faced nine felony charges.Seventeen other people had been charged in the case, including 10 other Republicans who had signed a certificate saying they were “duly elected and qualified” electors and claimed Trump had carried Arizona in the 2020 election. President Joe Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes. Joshua Kolsrud, an attorney representing Pellegrino, said in a statement that his client has accepted responsibility for her actions. “Loraine Pellegrino’s decision to accept a plea to a lesser charge reflects her desire to move forward and put this matter behind her,” Kolsrud said.On Monday, former Trump’s campaign attorney Jenna Ellis, who worked closely with his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, entered a cooperation agreement with prosecutors who have asked for her charges to be dismissed. The remaining defendants, including Giuliani and Trump presidential chief of staff Mark Meadows, have pleaded not guilty to conspiracy, fraud and forgery charges.
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jerrab » 12 Dec 2024, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑ how about all the trump people using the fifth?
They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...
 
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ROG62 » 12 Dec 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...
implicate themselves from what?
 
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ROG62 » 12 Dec 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...
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 A Republican activist who signed a document falsely claiming Donald Trump had won Arizona in 2020 became the first person to be convicted in the state’s fake elector case.
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ROG62 » 12 Dec 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...
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Loraine Pellegrino, a past president of the group Ahwatukee Republican Women, has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of filing a false document, Arizona Attorney General’s Office spokesperson Richie Taylor said Tuesday,
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ROG62 » 12 Dec 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...

trump will pardon those convicted for 1/6
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ROG62 » 12 Dec 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... nald_Trump
 
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ROG62 » 12 Dec 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...

rump's use of the pardon power was marked by an unprecedented degree of favoritism.[12] He frequently granted executive clemency to his supporters or political allies,[17][18] or following personal appeals or campaigns in conservative media,[19] as in the cases of Rod Blagojevich, Michael Milken, Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D'Souza, and Clint Lorance, as well as Bernard Kerik.[17] Trump granted clemency to five of his former campaign staff members and political advisers: Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Stephen K. Bannon, and George Papadopoulos.[20]
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ROG62 » 12 Dec 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ They did what they have to do not to implicate themselves...

Those pardoned cannot be implicated...

are you really sure you want to open that can of beans?
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jerrab » 12 Dec 2024, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑ are you really sure you want to open that can of beans?
No can of beans to open, jb, 2 different legalities....
 
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jerrab » 12 Dec 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑ rump's use of the pardon power was marked by an unprecedented degree of favoritism.[12] He frequently granted executive clemency to his supporters or political allies,[17][18] or following personal appeals or campaigns in conservative media,[19] as in the cases of Rod Blagojevich, Michael Milken, Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D'Souza, and Clint Lorance, as well as Bernard Kerik.[17] Trump granted clemency to five of his former campaign staff members and political advisers: Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Stephen K. Bannon, and George Papadopoulos.[20]
It's the President's right...
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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jerrab » 12 Dec 2024, 3:44 pm » wrote: ↑ trump will pardon those convicted for 1/6
I certainly hope so...it's a new era...and the end to democratic lawfare...
 
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jerrab » 12 Dec 2024, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑ ------------------------------------------

 A Republican activist who signed a document falsely claiming Donald Trump had won Arizona in 2020 became the first person to be convicted in the state’s fake elector case.
She'll probably be pardoned as well...
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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jerrab » 12 Dec 2024, 3:27 pm » wrote: ↑ implicate themselves from what?
Incrimination...
 
 
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Mrkelly » 10 Dec 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑ You will change your tune when tRump starts pardoning criminals again
Listen up, a Democrat conviction is worthless......they are liars and **** and are not reticent about jailing their political rivals. 
PS, I'll keep busting your *** until you learn to spell his name. In the mean time, just know that I'll be watching.

 
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RebelGator » 12 Dec 2024, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑ Listen up, a Democrat conviction is worthless......they are liars and **** and are not reticent about jailing their political rivals. 
PS, I'll keep busting your *** until you learn to spell his name. In the mean time, just know that I'll be watching.
:LOL:  tRumpers 
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