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31stArrival » 12 Dec 2024, 6:40 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 6:40 am

To protect its citizens from other people wishing to end their society because it set an example other societies don't want their citizens to know about life in real time. Take the fight to their homeland since they are invading ours illegally.
 

Asians and Eurasians are the people our gay/trans/*** military are persecuting. 

Are you alleging that these are the people sneaking across our border? And if you DO allege that, wouldn't the country assisting them be the one to attack?

Do you have numbers? I think maybe 12-20 million central Americans have invaded. How many millions of Iranians are you alleging are invading us with the intention of ending our perversions/"society"?

Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2024, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 6:10 pm

Why would a nation with two friendly neighbors and two oceans surrounding it need its military molesting other countries under the patently false and inauthentic pretense of "protecting our 'economic' interests"?

Isn't that what pirates and muggers are doing? Why would you want to support a military that mugs other countries? Just what are the **** "economic interests" that you think America's gay/transgender soldiers, thaylors and airpersons ought to be murdering foreigners over?

NAME one.

Here's just one - Exxon Mobil.  Exxon Mobil, an American company, has agreements with other nations to engage in business and explore/drill for oil there.  If another country (Yemen) decides to bomb the crap out of Exxon Mobil operations which are peaceful and done by agreement/treaty, the U.S. should have the option of using its military to retaliate and/or protect those interests. 

To say differently means that you do not believe that ANY American companies or even individuals should EVER be in other countries for travel or conducting business. You may genuinely believe that.  I, however, do not.
 

nefarious101 » 11 Dec 2024, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 4:44 pm

I don't know...I thought China was already a ****....or a close facsimile thereof

We need to make it more like North Korea - a real ****.  North Korea was the model for **** nations, well that was before Syria took the crown.
 
 

Skans » 12 Dec 2024, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 8:35 am

Here's just one - Exxon Mobil.  Exxon Mobil, an American company, has agreements with other nations to engage in business and explore/drill for oil there.  If another country (Yemen) decides to bomb the crap out of Exxon Mobil operations which are peaceful and done by agreement/treaty, the U.S. should have the option of using its military to retaliate and/or protect those interests. 

To say differently means that you do not believe that ANY American companies or even individuals should EVER be in other countries for travel or conducting business. You may genuinely believe that.  I, however, do not.

Let's unpack an implicit lie - that the United States' gay/tranny/homosexual, pride-flag-flying military is only defending innocent companies that are being attacked "fer nuthin" by "bad actors." Exxon Mobile is a hybrid demonchild of standard oil, which was broken up by the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. Books have been written about the power grabs of this Rockefeller megalith - and the breakup did little to end the machinations of them men at the levers of power. Exxon Mobile alone of the 30+ companies spawned from Standard Oil's breakup, makes about 4 billion dollars a day - they can hire their own **** security to deal with Yemenis. The dishonest pretense that America's issue with Yemen is "on accounta they're bein' mean to mobile" is sandwich-making gay. 

Next, your explicit lie that if I do not agree to our gay/tranny/homosexual, pride-flag-flying military being the private bully dog of Exxon Mobile, then I do not believe in business or leisure travel. This is my rebuttal: I do NOT agree, and I DO believe in travel for business and leisure. So, you're wrong. That was pretty easy. 

Exxon Mobile has a long history of criminal activity against other nations. This is one of their most recent crimes - against Guyana in this past decade. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXv4HyVXVDk
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Dec 2024, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 8:24 am

Asians and Eurasians are the people our gay/trans/*** military are persecuting. 

Are you alleging that these are the people sneaking across our border? And if you DO allege that, wouldn't the country assisting them be the one to attack?

Do you have numbers? I think maybe 12-20 million central Americans have invaded. How many millions of Iranians are you alleging are invading us with the intention of ending our perversions/"society"?

stop typecasting by ancestral lineages and by their specific social behavior as a mob mentality ignoring how evolving works naturally within this species native to this atmosphere evolving by temperate zone lived since inception.

Shared DNA with individual chromosomes per ancestral lineage and generation gaps so far equally alive proportionately occupying space in plain sight, daily.

Series parallel positions are spontaneously now as separately simultaneously here since their conception as another generation gap arrived so far. Learn to accept living eternally separated in plain sight. Nobody teaches that in any cultivated social consensus in history or current events.

31stArrival » 12 Dec 2024, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 9:09 am

stop typecasting by ancestral lineages and by their specific social behavior as a mob mentality ignoring how evolving works naturally within this species native to this atmosphere evolving by temperate zone lived since inception.

Shared DNA with individual chromosomes per ancestral lineage and generation gaps so far equally alive proportionately occupying space in plain sight, daily.

Series parallel positions are spontaneously now as separately simultaneously here since their conception as another generation gap arrived so far. Learn to accept living eternally separated in plain sight. Nobody teaches that in any cultivated social consensus in history or current events.

No number, then? You just just jack-jawing about claptrap?

That's what I thought at the time. Thanks for confirming. 
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Dec 2024, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 9:13 am

No number, then? You just just jack-jawing about claptrap?

That's what I thought at the time. Thanks for confirming. 
 

What is the current total sum population of this species in this atmosphere today? Nobody knows with births and deaths happening at the same time in this atmosphere regardless longitude time one and temperate zone between one equator and two opposing polar seasons each solstice and equinox. current estimates are between 8.13 and 8.2 billion ancestors alive now. How and why are ancestors occupying time 24/7?

Evolving in series parallel positions now. Eternally separated here since conceived to replace their previous 4 lived generation gaps. 30 specific persons make up each great great grandchild's 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great, 16 great great. I have the event horizons mapped out in that figure of my avatar with 4 parallel vertical axes of the central vertical mom and dad conceiving each great great grandchild.

Natural algorithm between expanding details never duplicated and contracting results never same forms since arriving a fertilized cell. Eternal life changing in plain sight now everything operates in a perpetual balancing state of existence here.

Doesn't matter universal location be it galaxy, solar system, planetary, food chain, species, ancestral lineage, generation gap, reproduction here. Self evident results doing what each has done since birth. History records social consensus, not evolving in plain sight as eternally separated now.

Facts vs actual time evolving since conceived last each rotation a body changes form each heartbeat added until dead and decomposition starts. Binary code 0 or 1.

0-9 months prior to birth 1-100 years alive infant, toddler, adolescent, puberty, adult never reproduced, parent outlived offspring, becomes 1 of 4 grandparents, becomes 1 of 8 great grandparents, etc. Karma of what goes around comes around full circle.

Do unto others as you would have other do unto you because life doesn't exceed time adapting in the moment here regardless which longitude or latitude you occupying space now the generation gap you arrived in. You treat life like it isn't self evident and you reject your own time living eternally separated now.

This is where humanity went wrong since dawn of civilization.

Cannonpointer » 12 Dec 2024, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 9:02 am

Let's unpack an implicit lie Go ahead and try...
- that the United States' gay/tranny/homosexual, pride-flag-flying military is only defending innocent companies that are being attacked "fer nuthin" Off topic.

by "bad actors." Unsupported and nebulous statement.

Exxon Mobile is a hybrid demonchild Dumb hyperbole.

of standard oil, which was broken up by the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. F-ing irrelevant  
Books have been written What books?  And, who cares...

about the power grabs of this Rockefeller megalith - Rockefeller = Standard Oil.  Not Exon Mobile.  Never involved with this company and certainly not in the 2000's.
- and the breakup did little to end the machinations of them men at the levers of power. Again, Rockefeller did not control Exon Mobile. 

Exxon Mobile alone of the 30+ companies spawned from Standard Oil's breakup, Again, so what.  ROCKEFELLER NEVER CONTROLLED EXON MOBILE.  AND EVEN IF HE/THEY DID, WHO F-ING CARS!

makes about 4 billion dollars a day Good for them.  Go Capitalism.  Again, your half-truths about Standard Oil and its successors after its breakup is not relevant.

- they can hire their own **** security to deal with Yemenis. Finally, at least something you said is relevant.  Yes, they can and they should.  BUT, the U.S. may feel they have an independent interest in defending U.S. interests abroad - we as a nation have an interest in US companies being able to do business abroad.  I'm good with this.

The dishonest pretense that America's issue with Yemen is "on accounta they're bein' mean to mobile" is sandwich-making gay. Dumb.

Next, your explicit lie that if I do not agree to our gay/tranny/homosexual, pride-flag-flying... Dumb.  Off-topic.  Get back on your meds...

military being the private bully dog of Exxon Mobile, I never said that.  I said that I am good with the US militarily defending its interests in foreign lands when they are being attacked without provocation.

then I do not believe in business or leisure travel. Fine, you don't believe in business or leisure travel because you don't believe in the US using force to keep its economic interests and citizens safe.  We can agree to disagree on that.  While I think your position is short-sighted, not thought through and probably a grand overstatement of what your REAL position on this is, I'll accept that. 

 

Skans » 12 Dec 2024, 9:41 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 9:41 am

- that the United States' gay/tranny/homosexual, pride-flag-flying military is only defending innocent companies that are being attacked "fer nuthin" Off topic. IT WAS YOUR CLAIM, YOU JACKASS. YOU MADE IT THE TOPIC.

by "bad actors." Unsupported and nebulous statement. AGAIN, YOUR CLAIM[/b].

...

Books have been written What books?  And, who cares...PEOPLE WHO PREFER TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THINGS INSTEAD OF SPEWING NARRATIVES AND REMAINING BLITHELY IGNORANT PARROTS.

about the power grabs of this Rockefeller megalith - Rockefeller = Standard Oil.  Not Exon Mobile.  Never involved with this company and certainly not in the 2000's.
- and the breakup did little to end the machinations of them men at the levers of power. Again, Rockefeller did not control Exon Mobile.  ARE YOU CLAIMING THAT ROCKEFELLER CONTROLLED EXXON MOBILE? IS THAT YOUR CLAIM?

Exxon Mobile alone of the 30+ companies spawned from Standard Oil's breakup, Again, so what.  ROCKEFELLER NEVER CONTROLLED EXON MOBILE.  AND EVEN IF HE/THEY DID, WHO F-ING CARS!SLAVE BOYS SURE DON'T. ANY LEADER WITH A PETER FOR A NEOCON **** EATER.

makes about 4 billion dollars a day Good for them.  Go Capitalism.  Again, your half-truths about Standard Oil and its successors after its breakup is not relevant. IT IS RELEVANT TO YOUR POOR MOUTHING ON THEIR BEHALF, YOU EAGER LITTLE SYCOPHANT. YOU NEED AYN RAND'S VOICE TURNED DOWN, FRUITCAKE.

- they can hire their own **** security to deal with Yemenis. Finally, at least something you said is relevant.  Yes, they can and they should.  BUT, the U.S. may feel they have an independent interest in defending U.S. interests abroad - we as a nation have an interest in US companies being able to do business abroad.  I'm good with this. YOU ARE GOOD WITH BUMPER STICKERS AND NARRATIVES. MAKING ENEMIES FOR OUR GRANDCHILDREN IS NOT IN OUR INTERESTS. PRETENDING THAT WE HAVE TO DEFEND GOON COMPANIES THAT **** ON THE LOCALS IS THE OPPOSITE OF PATRIOTISM AND THE OPPOSITE OF DECENCY - OR, "NEOCONSERVATISM."

The dishonest pretense that America's issue with Yemen is "on accounta they're bein' mean to mobile" is sandwich-making gay. Dumb.

Next, your explicit lie that if I do not agree to our gay/tranny/homosexual, pride-flag-flying... Dumb.  Off-topic.  Get back on your meds...YOU SPECIFICALLY MADE THIS THE TOPIC WHEN YOU CLAIMED DISAGREEING WITH YOU MEANT THAT I BELIEVED NO AMERICAN HAS THE RIGHT TO TRAVEL. YOU KEEP MAKING CLAIMS AND THEN SAYING MY RESPONSE IS OFF TOPIC - WHICH IS YOUR ADMISSION THAT YOUR **** WAS OFF TOPIC.

military being the private bully dog of Exxon Mobile, I never said that.YOU SAID THAT.  I said that I am good with the US militarily defending its interests in foreign lands when they are being attacked without provocation.

then I do not believe in business or leisure travel. Fine, you don't believe in business or leisure travel because you don't believe in the US using force to keep its economic interests and citizens safe. OFF TOPIC! OFF TOPIC! CITIZENS ARRAYUST! CITIZEN'S ARRAYUST! We can agree to disagree on that.  While I think your position is short-sighted, not thought through and probably a grand overstatement of what your REAL position on this is, I'll accept that. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM

Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2024, 4:07 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 4:07 pm

I do not agree. Nations need conservatives for their survival. 

Neocons threaten a nation's survival.

If you’re talking about the 1800s type, that applies. 

Modern conjobs = delivery boyZ for Wall St

Cannonpointer » 12 Dec 2024, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2024, 8:24 am

Asians and Eurasians are the people our gay/trans/*** military are persecuting. 

Are you alleging that these are the people sneaking across our border? And if you DO allege that, wouldn't the country assisting them be the one to attack?

Do you have numbers? I think maybe 12-20 million central Americans have invaded. How many millions of Iranians are you alleging are invading us with the intention of ending our perversions/"society"?

Why are you declaring all 12 to 20 million were just central and south Americans. They were illegal so if not caught crossing why wouldn't couple of million be from another country getting into the human wave attack on depleting this country's economy day by day?

Intellectual warfare as described by Nikita Khrushchev idea of crushing the United States during JFK's incomplete term as president.

LowIQTrash » 13 Dec 2024, 1:12 am » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2024, 1:12 am

If you’re talking about the 1800s type, that applies. 

Modern conjobs = delivery boyZ for Wall St

Conservatives always serve the status quo. The best conservatives ever are status quo servants - agents of wealth. But such people are necessary to the health of a nation. 

Never look for justice. Stability is the best conservatives offer the world. But the opposite of stability is chaos - and in chaos, anything approaching justice is inconceivable.