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December 10, 2024

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong

By Olivia Murray 

Climate scientists recently discovered that they’ve been underestimating the impact of a particular organic compound in the atmosphere, and the oversight’s significance is so profound that it’s left existing climate models completely obsolete. As Jo Nova writes, “This is so big, it may change the sacred ‘climate sensitivity’ of the whole Earth”. 

Isoprene is what’s known as a volatile organic compound, or a VOC, and “has a recognized role in protecting plants against many abiotic stresses” like “heat stress…drought…[and] oxidative stress” with trees being the greatest emitters. (When the chemical isoprene interacts with other compounds in the atmosphere, the products are a number of secondary organic aerosols.)Here’s some additional context, from Jo Nova: 

To put some perspective on this, isoprene is the most abundant non-methane hydrocarbon emitted into the atmosphere.

And, from a study published in the Annals of Botany and sourced from the NIH: 

In the tropics, plant leaves can grow very large, and this creates a large boundary layer insulating the leaf from air temperature, allowing the leaf temperature to exceed air temperature by 10 °C and more. Also, in humid air, heat loss by latent heat of evaporation is reduced. The humid tropics are known to have many isoprene-emitting species….

(Think the Amazon.)  Now, back to the original point, and Nova’s item:

But climate models have … been estimating aerosols in the atmosphere for hundreds of years, and they [scientists] didn’t realize trees made so much aerosol than they thought.

Nova also includes this blurb, from CERN researcher and study spokesman Jasper Kirkby:

‘This new source of biogenic particles in the upper troposphere may impact estimates of Earth's climate sensitivity, since it implies that more aerosol particles were produced in the pristine pre-industrial atmosphere than previously thought,’ adds Kirkby. ‘However, until our findings have been evaluated in global climate models, it’s not possible to quantify the effect.’

So there’s a substance that’s shockingly abundant and has a far greater effect on the climate and weather patterns than previously thought, and it hasn’t been considered in the current “global climate models” — but it’s hard to “quantify” how consequential this error is? According to CERN, climate models and predictions just need to be “refined” in light of the new information.Try thrown out and redone from scratch.

Maybe the impact of isoprene can’t be exactly quantified, but we can roughly evaluate the effects, and acknowledge that their “climate change” narratives (and accompanying agendas) began on a false premise.

We call that a fallacy—which coincidentally, underpins all progressive weather theories.

This all begs the question: What else are they missing?

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong - American Thinker

What else are they LYING about? 
 

Buffalo » 11 Dec 2024, 6:48 am » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 6:48 am

December 10, 2024

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong

By Olivia Murray 

Climate scientists recently discovered that they’ve been underestimating the impact of a particular organic compound in the atmosphere, and the oversight’s significance is so profound that it’s left existing climate models completely obsolete. As Jo Nova writes, “This is so big, it may change the sacred ‘climate sensitivity’ of the whole Earth”. 

Isoprene is what’s known as a volatile organic compound, or a VOC, and “has a recognized role in protecting plants against many abiotic stresses” like “heat stress…drought…[and] oxidative stress” with trees being the greatest emitters. (When the chemical isoprene interacts with other compounds in the atmosphere, the products are a number of secondary organic aerosols.)Here’s some additional context, from Jo Nova: 


And, from a study published in the Annals of Botany and sourced from the NIH: 


(Think the Amazon.)  Now, back to the original point, and Nova’s item:


Nova also includes this blurb, from CERN researcher and study spokesman Jasper Kirkby:


So there’s a substance that’s shockingly abundant and has a far greater effect on the climate and weather patterns than previously thought, and it hasn’t been considered in the current “global climate models” — but it’s hard to “quantify” how consequential this error is? According to CERN, climate models and predictions just need to be “refined” in light of the new information.Try thrown out and redone from scratch.

Maybe the impact of isoprene can’t be exactly quantified, but we can roughly evaluate the effects, and acknowledge that their “climate change” narratives (and accompanying agendas) began on a false premise.

We call that a fallacy—which coincidentally, underpins all progressive weather theories.

This all begs the question: What else are they missing?

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong - American Thinker

What else are they LYING about? 
 

Genetic outcomes are naturally eternally separated lifeforms adapting to the moment daily as existing reproductively here so far. 7,000 year old practice every alternate reality within the 5 ancestral lineages native to this atmosphere since evolving started. way before the last 7,000 years of intellectual minds controlling brains cradle to grave with power of suggesting life isn't self evident time adapting to the moment here since conceived.

Thermodynamic results as displaced here now regardless inorganic molecular elements combined or combined chromosomes of the population left alive now.

Buffalo » 11 Dec 2024, 6:48 am » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 6:48 am

December 10, 2024

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong

By Olivia Murray 

Climate scientists recently discovered that they’ve been underestimating the impact of a particular organic compound in the atmosphere, and the oversight’s significance is so profound that it’s left existing climate models completely obsolete. As Jo Nova writes, “This is so big, it may change the sacred ‘climate sensitivity’ of the whole Earth”. 

Isoprene is what’s known as a volatile organic compound, or a VOC, and “has a recognized role in protecting plants against many abiotic stresses” like “heat stress…drought…[and] oxidative stress” with trees being the greatest emitters. (When the chemical isoprene interacts with other compounds in the atmosphere, the products are a number of secondary organic aerosols.)Here’s some additional context, from Jo Nova: 

And, from a study published in the Annals of Botany and sourced from the NIH: 

(Think the Amazon.)  Now, back to the original point, and Nova’s item:

Nova also includes this blurb, from CERN researcher and study spokesman Jasper Kirkby:

So there’s a substance that’s shockingly abundant and has a far greater effect on the climate and weather patterns than previously thought, and it hasn’t been considered in the current “global climate models” — but it’s hard to “quantify” how consequential this error is? According to CERN, climate models and predictions just need to be “refined” in light of the new information.Try thrown out and redone from scratch.

Maybe the impact of isoprene can’t be exactly quantified, but we can roughly evaluate the effects, and acknowledge that their “climate change” narratives (and accompanying agendas) began on a false premise.

We call that a fallacy—which coincidentally, underpins all progressive weather theories.

This all begs the question: What else are they missing?

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong - American Thinker

What else are they LYING about?

They (climate alarmists) always talk about "carbon" levels...

https://www.livescience.com/44330-juras ... oxide.html

https://nov79.com/gbwm/gbwm.html
 

I knew it. Climate change **** is a Democrat hoax.

Buffalo » 11 Dec 2024, 6:48 am » wrote: ↑

11 Dec 2024, 6:48 am

December 10, 2024

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong

By Olivia Murray 

Climate scientists recently discovered that they’ve been underestimating the impact of a particular organic compound in the atmosphere, and the oversight’s significance is so profound that it’s left existing climate models completely obsolete. As Jo Nova writes, “This is so big, it may change the sacred ‘climate sensitivity’ of the whole Earth”. 

Isoprene is what’s known as a volatile organic compound, or a VOC, and “has a recognized role in protecting plants against many abiotic stresses” like “heat stress…drought…[and] oxidative stress” with trees being the greatest emitters. (When the chemical isoprene interacts with other compounds in the atmosphere, the products are a number of secondary organic aerosols.)Here’s some additional context, from Jo Nova: 

And, from a study published in the Annals of Botany and sourced from the NIH: 

(Think the Amazon.)  Now, back to the original point, and Nova’s item:

Nova also includes this blurb, from CERN researcher and study spokesman Jasper Kirkby:

So there’s a substance that’s shockingly abundant and has a far greater effect on the climate and weather patterns than previously thought, and it hasn’t been considered in the current “global climate models” — but it’s hard to “quantify” how consequential this error is? According to CERN, climate models and predictions just need to be “refined” in light of the new information.Try thrown out and redone from scratch.

Maybe the impact of isoprene can’t be exactly quantified, but we can roughly evaluate the effects, and acknowledge that their “climate change” narratives (and accompanying agendas) began on a false premise.

We call that a fallacy—which coincidentally, underpins all progressive weather theories.

This all begs the question: What else are they missing?

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrong - American Thinker

What else are they LYING about?

They haven't even figured out how much the oceans actually contribute or distribute to the atmospheric temperature.
Clouds affect reflectivity, currents affect the heat sink factor.
Models are all "estimates masquerading as evidence".

Throw in one more variable. Like adding a bay leaf to a cement truck... 
That new driveway will smell that much better.