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Ten years from now, what one stock are you going to wish you bought (assuming you're not dead)? 

Or, are you one of those who says "F- THE STOCK MARKET", and prefers to buy gold, real estate or brothels.

Communists can respond too.  Just note that you are a communist so I know to short your pick.


PS: I was doing a deep dive this morning on the biggest stock winners of the 1980's and 1990's - therefore, I figured I'd just ask.

Skans » 25 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

25 minutes ago

Ten years from now, what one stock are you going to wish you bought (assuming you're not dead)? 

Or, are you one of those who says "F- THE STOCK MARKET", and prefers to buy gold, real estate or brothels.

Communists can respond too.  Just note that you are a communist so I know to short your pick.

PS: I was doing a deep dive this morning on the biggest stock winners of the 1980's and 1990's - therefore, I figured I'd just ask.

Are you aware of Anduril, or LEOLabs?

You can't buy them, unless you are "accredited"....

Whatever it is, it is highly unlikely to be public now.

Blackvegetable » 30 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

30 minutes ago

Are you aware of Anduril, or LEOLabs?

You can't buy them, unless you are "accredited"....

Whatever it is, it is highly unlikely to be public now.

No, I am not familiar with either.  But, if they are not publicly traded, then I typically would not consider them. I exclusively stick with publicly traded companies because their financials receive far more scrutiny than private companies. Their financial information is readily available, easy to digest and analyze.  Also, I can get in and out easy.  Many private companies pay everything out and have little to no profits.  In other words, they screw the passive investors until they bring the company public.

I did take a look at what I could find on both.  Not much out there on their financials. So, I'm not sure why you like them as an investment?
 

Skans » Today, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:09 am

Ten years from now, what one stock are you going to wish you bought (assuming you're not dead)? 

Or, are you one of those who says "F- THE STOCK MARKET", and prefers to buy gold, real estate or brothels.

Communists can respond too.  Just note that you are a communist so I know to short your pick.

PS: I was doing a deep dive this morning on the biggest stock winners of the 1980's and 1990's - therefore, I figured I'd just ask.

Bump stocks.

RebelGator » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

Bump stocks.

Ohhhhhh!!!! 

P.S. Echo or Franklin triggers are better. Faster.  More accurate and controllable.
 

Skans » Today, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:58 am

No, I am not familiar with either.  But, if they are not publicly traded, then I typically would not consider them. I exclusively stick with publicly traded companies because their financials receive far more scrutiny than private companies. Their financial information is readily available, easy to digest and analyze.  Also, I can get in and out easy.  Many private companies pay everything out and have little to no profits.  In other words, they screw the passive investors until they bring the company public.

I did take a look at what I could find on both.  Not much out there on their financials. So, I'm not sure why you like them as an investment?

 

But, if they are not publicly traded, then I typically would not consider them.

because you don't have the option.

because their financials receive far more scrutiny than private companies.

Audited financials are audited financials.

Many private companies pay everything out and have little to no profits.  In other words, they screw the passive investors until they bring the company public.

That's the nature of equity...not all publicly traded issues pay a dividend. 

In theory, dividends are "concessions" that the issuer cannot generate better returns than the investor can by investing somewhere else.

Which need not be a bad thing.

Not much out there on their financials. So, I'm not sure why you like them as an investment?

I do not recommend issues or offer investment advice online.

I posted them as examples of what you asked for.

Private offerings employ "data rooms", wherein the qualified can access more details.

Companies tend to put off going public now...small floats are subject to manipulation. Because the equity holders don't want the value of their positions to be subject to it, they go out at multibillion dollar valuations.

Just learned that Anduril and LEO may be eyeballing some kind of association. Autonomous weapons systems in low earth orbit.

 
 

A fiberforce stock for my ak47.

Blackvegetable » 32 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

32 minutes ago

because you don't have the option.

Audited financials are audited financials.

That's the nature of equity...not all publicly traded issues pay a dividend. 

In theory, dividends are "concessions" that the issuer cannot generate better returns than the investor can by investing somewhere else.

Which need not be a bad thing.

I do not recommend issues or offer investment advice online.

I posted them as examples of what you asked for.

Private offerings employ "data rooms", wherein the qualified can access more details.

Companies tend to put off going public now...small floats are subject to manipulation. Because the equity holders don't want the value of their positions to be subject to it, they go out at multibillion dollar valuations.

Just learned that Anduril and LEO may be eyeballing some kind of association. Autonomous weapons systems in low earth orbit.

I wouldn't consider them even if I had the option. I have had plenty of opportunities to invest in private companies run by others. I just don't.

Not all investments need to be dividend driven. Companies pay dividends for many reasons.  It is untrue that dividends are simply concessions because the company cannot generate better returns. While this can be true, its just not necessarily the case. However, companies should be profitable within a specified time period. Paying dividends does not equate to profitability.

Pick your poison.  If you think you can capture bigger returns with less risk doing private equity investing, great!  It's just not my thing.  I feel that they tend to be too easily manipulated to evaluate whether they are good investments or not.

From my experience, the creator of private investments is the majority stock holder. He also controls if and when the company will ever be sold, and all investors get are tag-along and drag-along rights. Often, these CEO's are drawing such a large salary from operating the company that they are reluctant to ever sell. So, investors sit around perhaps forever waiting to get their money + profits back out (assuming it is even profitable).  In the mean time, it is there is no market to buy/sell your stock.  So, explain to me how the moon and the stars and ants in the sand all line up to get a knowledgeable investor to say YES, I WANT IN!!!


 

I wish I bought Bitcoin when it as 9 cents a coin. But for now I have a fair amount of AMD. They do AI chips.

PhiloBeddo » 23 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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I wish I bought Bitcoin when it as 9 cents a coin. But for now I have a fair amount of AMD. They do AI chips.

Finally, someone who can give a direct answer!  AMD is kicking its direct competitor, Intel's ***.  But, I think NVIDIA is the big winner in the AI chip arena. AMD P/E = 112   NVIDIA P/E = 55.  But, Nvidia is down 6% today!

While I understand Bitcoin, it's just not my thing for an investment.  Its really more of  commodity, doesn't actually make money selling a product or service.  People like Tesla too, but I don't.
 
 

Blackvegetable » Today, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 3:33 pm

because you don't have the option.

Audited financials are audited financials.

That's the nature of equity...not all publicly traded issues pay a dividend. 

In theory, dividends are "concessions" that the issuer cannot generate better returns than the investor can by investing somewhere else.

Which need not be a bad thing.

I do not recommend issues or offer investment advice online.

I posted them as examples of what you asked for.

Private offerings employ "data rooms", wherein the qualified can access more details.

Companies tend to put off going public now...small floats are subject to manipulation. Because the equity holders don't want the value of their positions to be subject to it, they go out at multibillion dollar valuations.

Just learned that Anduril and LEO may be eyeballing some kind of association. Autonomous weapons systems in low earth orbit.

**** you jungle bunny.

I have 1200 shares of AMD I bought between 15 and 20 dollars a share. I am thinking of buy some more now, it seems to be down a little.

PhiloBeddo » 1 minute ago » wrote: ↑

1 minute ago

I have 1200 shares of AMD I bought between 15 and 20 dollars a share. I am thinking of buy some more now, it seems to be down a little.

What's AMD doing that you like?
 

They have moved into developing AI technology. At this point it seems everybody is into AI.

OpenAI. Not a huge fan of AI taking over the workplace but nothing I can do the stop the tide.

The sex-change industry is

BOOMING in MuriQUEER!!

 
 

I would love to invest into Elon's companies, but they are so damn expensive.

PhiloBeddo » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

I would love to invest into Elon's companies, but they are so damn expensive.

Exactly.  I don't see any value in investing in them.  Just too expensive for me.

impartialobserver » 14 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

14 minutes ago

OpenAI. Not a huge fan of AI taking over the workplace but nothing I can do the stop the tide.

Its one of those things that we all know will likely end up badly, but seems impossible to stop.  Even if the US passed some strict anti-AI laws, China, Europe, Japan and S. Korea will simply plow forward with it. We would just be left out if we were to try and stop it. 

It's like the development of nuclear weapons - there was no stopping it.  So far, we survived. Lucky, I guess.

So, I figure if you can't stop it, buy it.  Make whatever money you can on it.  Then, buy a fortified piece of land, with access to water, and hope tomorrow's bot-cops don't find you.
 

Skans » Today, 5:28 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:28 pm

Its one of those things that we all know will likely end up badly, but seems impossible to stop.  Even if the US passed some strict anti-AI laws, China, Europe, Japan and S. Korea will simply plow forward with it. We would just be left out if we were to try and stop it. 

It's like the development of nuclear weapons - there was no stopping it.  So far, we survived. Lucky, I guess.

So, I figure if you can't stop it, buy it.  Make whatever money you can on it.  Then, buy a fortified piece of land, with access to water, and hope tomorrow's bot-cops don't find you.

If we were to stop using it then folks would stop purchasing the more expensive American digital products and get them from Japan/Korea/UK/Canada/or China. I do not think it will end well. One of the things that keeps the masses pacified is labor and the ability to translate one's time/effort into a decent standard of living. If the transactional labor (where you follow repetitive steps making something from raw to finished) are automated away, there will be no jobs in other sectors to absorb them into. The purpose of AI is not to transform labor from one form/shape into another.. its to decrease the amount of labor.