Challenge to the Left re: Project 2025

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Cannonpointer
19 Jan 2025 9:56 pm
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Tell us what problem you have with Project 2025.

Name one provision you find bad, and tell us why it is bad. 

Do it here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93357
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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20 Jan 2025 10:29 am
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Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2025, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Tell us what problem you have with Project 2025.

Name one provision you find bad, and tell us why it is bad. 

Do it here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93357
Too soon to tell for me

I didn’t buy the book

I have seen bullet points about it, and they seem to have a lot of merit 

the devilish details are yet to be seen 

but, what could go wrong with a bunch of religious zealots telling us how we should live our lives?

and how it should be mandated 

but here is a guy that has been given a copy of the book 

https://youtube.com/shorts/Q-oBVEAAa1s? ... uIW6PzB77M
 
 
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20 Jan 2025 10:34 am
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Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2025, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Tell us what problem you have with Project 2025.

Name one provision you find bad, and tell us why it is bad. 

Do it here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93357

You do realize that @Blackvegetable  wont answer, right? Here, I'll save time and give you his response now: "You are a **** idiot." 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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20 Jan 2025 10:37 am
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Mrkelly » 20 Jan 2025, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑ Too soon to tell for me

I didn’t buy the book

I have seen bullet points about it, and they seem to have a lot of merit 

the devilish details are yet to be seen 

but, what could go wrong with a bunch of religious zealots telling us how we should live our lives?

and how it should be mandated
That is what we have NOW.

Climate change, sex change, DEI, forced "multi-culturalism" - all of these are religion. 100% religion, entirely faith based and against ALL evidence of efficacy. Anti-science at the core. Pure religion. 

One of the major hallmarks of a religion is that you are not allowed to question PRECEPTS of the faith. Anyone who does so must be shouted down and publicly scourged. 

We are driven by religious fervor NOW. And it is driving us right off the cliff. 

If you find any scintilla of ye olde Christendom's zeitgeist more frightening than what we have now, then you either do not understand Christendom, or you do not understand what we are experiencing now. Or both. 

What part of our CONSTITUTION is threatened (rather than salvaged) by Project 2025? That is the essential question. Because I can tell you that EVERY part of our Constitution is eroded, violated and ignored by what is going on right now.

Tell me, do you have a problem with the federal government bowing out of education? Has it done a fine job? Should we have it stay the course?

I would like for someone to tell me what about Project 2025 is not a good thing. I, too, have only seen the bullet points. I do not recall seeing anything I considered extreme. 
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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20 Jan 2025 10:39 am
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Vegas » 20 Jan 2025, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑ You do realize that @Blackvegetable  wont answer, right? Here, I'll save time and give you his response now: "You are a **** idiot."
Beevee will skirt hike for sure.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Mrkelly
20 Jan 2025 10:46 am
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jan 2025, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑ That is what we have NOW.

Climate change, sex change, DEI, forced "multi-culturalism" - all of these are religion. 100% religion, entirely faith based and against ALL evidence of efficacy. Anti-science at the core. Pure religion. 

One of the major hallmarks of a religion is that you are not allowed to question PRECEPTS of the faith. Anyone who does so must be shouted down and publicly scourged. 

We are driven by religious fervor NOW. And it is driving us right off the cliff. 

If you find any scintilla of ye olde Christendom's zeitgeist more frightening than what we have now, then you either do not understand Christendom, or you do not understand what we are experiencing now. Or both. 

What part of our CONSTITUTION is threatened (rather than salvaged) by Project 2025? That is the essential question. Because I can tell you that EVERY part of our Constitution is eroded, violated and ignored by what is going on right now.

Tell me, do you have a problem with the federal government bowing out of education? Has it done a fine job? Should we have it stay the course?

I would like for someone to tell me what about Project 2025 is not a good thing. I, too, have only seen the bullet points. I do not recall seeing anything I considered extreme.
Like I said 

what I have seen about it has merit 

tRump said it was extreme and ridiculous…. not me

but I won’t be celebrating something that I know little about yet

One that was written by religious zealots 

I just have more of a cautious optimism about it that you do

cool story tho
 
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20 Jan 2025 11:00 am
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Mrkelly » 20 Jan 2025, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑ Like I said 

what I have seen about it has merit 

tRump said it was extreme and ridiculous…. not me

but I won’t be celebrating something that I know little about yet

One that was written by religious zealots 

I just have more of a cautious optimism about it that you do

cool story tho
What Trump said on the campaign trail is, IMO, dispositive of nothing. 

The claim that the people who wrote it are "religious zealots" is only that - a claim. Anyone can call names. 

I would say that my optimism is equally cautious - hence my request for input. As I stated, I've not read it. I've just seen the same bullet point that you've seen, and it does not appear that either of us were much put off by those bullet points. 

When I make challenges, it isn't to rub people's faces in it. It's to have mine rubbed in it. I am always trying to learn. I'm not positional about Project 2025. I do want to become so, though. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jan 2025, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑ Beevee will skirt hike for sure.
No Questions meets No Thoughts....
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20 Jan 2025 11:03 am
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Blackvegetable » 20 Jan 2025, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑ No Questions meets No Thoughts....
Address the OP, ******. 

Oh, wait - you're the no thoughts guy. 

Which is why you only ask irrelevant questions - to APPEAR to be in the fray.
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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20 Jan 2025 11:08 am
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Blackvegetable » 20 Jan 2025, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑ No Questions meets No Thoughts....
KOOLS ***!!  :wave:  

No KAKA meets GUTTED KAKA :rofl:  

DEAD KAKA!!!
 
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Sumela
20 Jan 2025 11:38 am
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Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2025, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Tell us what problem you have with Project 2025.

Name one provision you find bad, and tell us why it is bad. 

Do it here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93357
I will have to check this out later.  

Initial thoughts are that it appears to be mostly a project created by Christian Zionists
and is primarily domestic policy.  I do not like these people and I do not respect them.  
And I do not trust them.

A bit like Rat Face Ben...
I may agree with him on some domestic issues, but I abhor his arrogance and bloodlust on foreign policy.  He is abhorrent.
 
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20 Jan 2025 11:40 am
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jan 2025, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑ Address the OP, ******. 

Oh, wait - you're the no thoughts guy. 

Which is why you only ask irrelevant questions - to APPEAR to be in the fray.
Just resolve the contradiction, here and now...
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20 Jan 2025 11:42 am
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Blackvegetable » 20 Jan 2025, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Just resolve the contradiction, here and now...
What I will resolve is to ignore *** who do not respond to the OP before they try to derail, queenie. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Blackvegetable » 20 Jan 2025, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Just resolve the contradiction, here and now...
Contradiction...

KAKA dead?
KAKA alive?

:LOL:  
 
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20 Jan 2025 1:12 pm
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Cannonpointer » 19 Jan 2025, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Tell us what problem you have with Project 2025.

Name one provision you find bad, and tell us why it is bad. 

Do it here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93357
For context, this is what the ACLU says it says.

 https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained
 
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Fuelman » 20 Jan 2025, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑ For context, this is what the ACLU says it says.

 https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained
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Project 2025 is a federal policy agenda and blueprint for a radical restructuring of the executive branch authored and published by former Trump administration officials in partnership with The Heritage Foundation, a longstanding conservative think tank that opposes abortion and reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights, immigrants’ rights, and racial equity. Project 2025’s largest publication, “Mandate For Leadership,” is a 900-page manual for reorganizing the entire federal government agency by agency to serve a conservative agenda.
I read this ^ as an endorsement!
 
The ACLU went on to say this:
Project 2025 includes a long list of extreme policy recommendations touching on nearly every aspect of American life, from immigration and abortion rights, to free speech and racial justice. A number of its recommendations rely on support from the executive branch and from Congress.
What is that - racial justice? Is that in the Constitution they purport to defend? Are "trans" "rights" in that document? What are immigration "rights," and whence do they derive?
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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20 Jan 2025 1:54 pm
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Fuelman » 20 Jan 2025, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑ For context, this is what the ACLU says it says.

 https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

I read further, but there was only partisan fluff. Y'know, they used to be lawyers over there.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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20 Jan 2025 2:06 pm
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jan 2025, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑ I read further, but there was only partisan fluff. Y'know, they used to be lawyers over there.
:rofl:   :rofl:  I admit I didn't make it to far into the article before the gag reflexes started kicking in. I stopped right about where they mentioned free speech!

Just curious what the Al Sharpton types had to say.
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