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I had this random thought before going to bed.

You know how social conservatives always lament the lack of masculinity in modern society, the increasing levels of immaturity among younger generations, the lack of responsible adults, etc.?

Well it turns out attributing these changes to the failures of "leftist education" / "leftist" professors is a garbage explanation since educators AS A GROUP have ALWAYS leaned "progressive" or "reformist." (That profession ATTRACTS those personality types)

Universities / centers of learning always favored the rabble rouser (yes, even back in Colonial America - their equivalent of 1960s hippies dominated higher education)

Propaganda thru mass media has been a thing since the printing press.

So while you can argue propaganda is a contributor, I consider this a secondary factor at best and likely tertiary in importance.

For example, they have no such "wokeness" or "woke movement" in China yet their population suffers from many of the same afflictions we Americans deal with.

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You know what came about around the same time the 1980s kids and beyond were born?

Tens of thousands of CHEMICALS that are magically FDA / EPA approved or rubber stamped every year (they are in the high 100,000s or 1,000,000+ in quantity by now)

The vast majority are not "properly tested." To properly vet these chimaeras would require YEARS of experiments and observational studies, and no corporation is going to do that.

They are not going to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per major trial to "vet themselves" 

Many side effects do not show up until YEARS after they reach a critical level in the human body, and even then you have to do regression analysis to weed out the false catalysts / reasons.

You can bet your ENTIRE retirement money + future SS payments that "mental problems" have "physiological roots."

They are not diseases of the mind but more likely diseases of the body.

________

These chemicals are dispersed throughout our water, air, and soil, and make their way into human bodies slowly but surely, over decades.

And while I do not have PROOF, I strongly suspect THIS is the #1 factor for what social conservatives consider errant behavior.

-------------------

"But...but...it's a free market! There are too many reGOOLAYSHUNZ!!"

~ RETARD WHO WOULD SACRIFICE SOCIETY'S LONG TERM WELL BEING AND FABRIC FOR GEE DEE PEE GROWTH

 
 

LowIQTrash » 23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am

I had this random thought before going to bed.

You know how social conservatives always lament the lack of masculinity in modern society, the increasing levels of immaturity among younger generations, the lack of responsible adults, etc.?

Well it turns out attributing these changes to the failures of "leftist education" / "leftist" professors is a garbage explanation since educators AS A GROUP have ALWAYS leaned "progressive" or "reformist." (That profession ATTRACTS those personality types)

Universities / centers of learning always favored the rabble rouser (yes, even back in Colonial America - their equivalent of 1960s hippies dominated higher education)

Propaganda thru mass media has been a thing since the printing press.

So while you can argue propaganda is a contributor, I consider this a secondary factor at best and likely tertiary in importance.

For example, they have no such "wokeness" or "woke movement" in China yet their population suffers from many of the same afflictions we Americans deal with.

------------------------

You know what came about around the same time the 1980s kids and beyond were born?

Tens of thousands of CHEMICALS that are magically FDA / EPA approved or rubber stamped every year (they are in the high 100,000s or 1,000,000+ in quantity by now)

The vast majority are not "properly tested." To properly vet these chimaeras would require YEARS of experiments and observational studies, and no corporation is going to do that.

They are not going to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per major trial to "vet themselves" 

Many side effects do not show up until YEARS after they reach a critical level in the human body, and even then you have to do regression analysis to weed out the false catalysts / reasons.

You can bet your ENTIRE retirement money + future SS payments that "mental problems" have "physiological roots."

They are not diseases of the mind but more likely diseases of the body.

________

These chemicals are dispersed throughout our water, air, and soil, and make their way into human bodies slowly but surely, over decades.

And while I do not have PROOF, I strongly suspect THIS is the #1 factor for what social conservatives consider errant behavior.

-------------------

"But...but...it's a free market! There are too many reGOOLAYSHUNZ!!"

~ RETARD WHO WOULD SACRIFICE SOCIETY'S LONG TERM WELL BEING AND FABRIC FOR GEE DEE PEE GROWTH

Staying fixated on people "improperly" labeling themselves or parties or whatever is a fool's errand.
A Venn diagram for all the "proper" placement of each person's label would be a useless stew of overlapping ovals (or amoebas).

I can't be classified so easily since I'm supposedly a liberal **** and a conservative asshole...
and some in-between mongrel.
Depends who is trying to pee on my shoe that day.

The environment of chemicals we are bathed in every minute of the day is, in a sense, a similar stew.
I recently watched "Live to 100" on Netflix.
Apparently if we all lived in small villages, hilly terrain, ate from our own gardens, laughed and danced with other 100-year-olds, we'd be better off.
Yeah, no problem. Tell that to 8 million New Yorkers or 13 million Moscovites... Or some really big city.  

So, the balance between benefits of, and risk from, our daily chemical bath will always be a management issue.
Paper straws solve nothing. People will still act like they need straws...   
 

DeezerShoove » 23 Jan 2025, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 7:15 am

Staying fixated on people "improperly" labeling themselves or parties or whatever is a fool's errand.
A Venn diagram for all the "proper" placement of each person's label would be a useless stew of overlapping ovals (or amoebas).

I can't be classified so easily since I'm supposedly a liberal **** and a conservative asshole...
and some in-between mongrel.
Depends who is trying to pee on my shoe that day.

The environment of chemicals we are bathed in every minute of the day is, in a sense, a similar stew.
I recently watched "Live to 100" on Netflix.
Apparently if we all lived in small villages, hilly terrain, ate from our own gardens, laughed and danced with other 100-year-olds, we'd be better off.
Yeah, no problem. Tell that to 8 million New Yorkers or 13 million Moscovites... Or some really big city.  

So, the balance between benefits of, and risk from, our daily chemical bath will always be a management issue.
Paper straws solve nothing. People will still act like they need straws... 

https://youtu.be/_2sz_YwwwQ4?si=tr_-Tum6PY5p1oBL

BV THE LIBERAL SHILL

LowIQTrash » 23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am

You know what came about around the same time the 1980s kids and beyond were born?

Tens of thousands of CHEMICALS that are magically FDA / EPA approved or rubber stamped every year (they are in the high 100,000s or 1,000,000+ in quantity by now)

The vast majority are not "properly tested." To properly vet these chimaeras would require YEARS of experiments and observational studies, and no corporation is going to do that.

They are not going to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per major trial to "vet themselves" 

Many side effects do not show up until YEARS after they reach a critical level in the human body, and even then you have to do regression analysis to weed out the false catalysts / reasons.

 

Since 1970 or mid 70s up to today, researchers found that our sperm count has decreased by 50%. There has to be a strong correlation to that and the chemicals. 

Yep.
In spite of all the chemicals, pollutants, toxic exposures, self destructive lifestyle choices ....most of us are out living our recent ancestors thanks to one medical intervention or another.
It's not that unusual to see Olden Folk at the gym nowadays.

LowIQTrash » 23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am

I had this random thought before going to bed.

You know how social conservatives always lament the lack of masculinity in modern society, the increasing levels of immaturity among younger generations, the lack of responsible adults, etc.?

Well it turns out attributing these changes to the failures of "leftist education" / "leftist" professors is a garbage explanation since educators AS A GROUP have ALWAYS leaned "progressive" or "reformist." (That profession ATTRACTS those personality types)

Universities / centers of learning always favored the rabble rouser (yes, even back in Colonial America - their equivalent of 1960s hippies dominated higher education)

Propaganda thru mass media has been a thing since the printing press.

So while you can argue propaganda is a contributor, I consider this a secondary factor at best and likely tertiary in importance.

For example, they have no such "wokeness" or "woke movement" in China yet their population suffers from many of the same afflictions we Americans deal with.

------------------------

You know what came about around the same time the 1980s kids and beyond were born?

Tens of thousands of CHEMICALS that are magically FDA / EPA approved or rubber stamped every year (they are in the high 100,000s or 1,000,000+ in quantity by now)

The vast majority are not "properly tested." To properly vet these chimaeras would require YEARS of experiments and observational studies, and no corporation is going to do that.

They are not going to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per major trial to "vet themselves" 

Many side effects do not show up until YEARS after they reach a critical level in the human body, and even then you have to do regression analysis to weed out the false catalysts / reasons.

You can bet your ENTIRE retirement money + future SS payments that "mental problems" have "physiological roots."

They are not diseases of the mind but more likely diseases of the body.

________

These chemicals are dispersed throughout our water, air, and soil, and make their way into human bodies slowly but surely, over decades.

And while I do not have PROOF, I strongly suspect THIS is the #1 factor for what social conservatives consider errant behavior.

-------------------

"But...but...it's a free market! There are too many reGOOLAYSHUNZ!!"

~ RETARD WHO WOULD SACRIFICE SOCIETY'S LONG TERM WELL BEING AND FABRIC FOR GEE DEE PEE GROWTH

Yes.  Many of these chemicals interfere with testosterone and estrogen pathways as well as puberty itself.
America is ****.

But.....PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT...is GOD!
 

LowIQTrash » 23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am

I had this random thought before going to bed.

You know how social conservatives always lament the lack of masculinity in modern society, the increasing levels of immaturity among younger generations, the lack of responsible adults, etc.?

Well it turns out attributing these changes to the failures of "leftist education" / "leftist" professors is a garbage explanation since educators AS A GROUP have ALWAYS leaned "progressive" or "reformist." (That profession ATTRACTS those personality types)

Universities / centers of learning always favored the rabble rouser (yes, even back in Colonial America - their equivalent of 1960s hippies dominated higher education)

Propaganda thru mass media has been a thing since the printing press.

So while you can argue propaganda is a contributor, I consider this a secondary factor at best and likely tertiary in importance.

For example, they have no such "wokeness" or "woke movement" in China yet their population suffers from many of the same afflictions we Americans deal with.

------------------------

You know what came about around the same time the 1980s kids and beyond were born?

Tens of thousands of CHEMICALS that are magically FDA / EPA approved or rubber stamped every year (they are in the high 100,000s or 1,000,000+ in quantity by now)

The vast majority are not "properly tested." To properly vet these chimaeras would require YEARS of experiments and observational studies, and no corporation is going to do that.

They are not going to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per major trial to "vet themselves" 

Many side effects do not show up until YEARS after they reach a critical level in the human body, and even then you have to do regression analysis to weed out the false catalysts / reasons.

You can bet your ENTIRE retirement money + future SS payments that "mental problems" have "physiological roots."

They are not diseases of the mind but more likely diseases of the body.

________

These chemicals are dispersed throughout our water, air, and soil, and make their way into human bodies slowly but surely, over decades.

And while I do not have PROOF, I strongly suspect THIS is the #1 factor for what social conservatives consider errant behavior.

-------------------

"But...but...it's a free market! There are too many reGOOLAYSHUNZ!!"

~ RETARD WHO WOULD SACRIFICE SOCIETY'S LONG TERM WELL BEING AND FABRIC FOR GEE DEE PEE GROWTH

Indica, Sativa or Hybrid?
 

everyone else on this website is a conservative of humanity governing tomorrows every day where I am against corruption governing ancestries every generation gap, mandated believing now isn't eternity and anyone showing how it has always been is ridiculed by everyone saving humanity, shunned by ancestry, exiled by community, executed for non compliance to social consensus of people rejecting how evolving works naturally here.

Life evolving does so without ever exceeding changing form in the moment here concieved to decomposed corpse.

LowIQTrash » 23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am

I had this random thought before going to bed.

You know how social conservatives always lament the lack of masculinity in modern society, the increasing levels of immaturity among younger generations, the lack of responsible adults, etc.?

Well it turns out attributing these changes to the failures of "leftist education" / "leftist" professors is a garbage explanation since educators AS A GROUP have ALWAYS leaned "progressive" or "reformist." (That profession ATTRACTS those personality types)

Universities / centers of learning always favored the rabble rouser (yes, even back in Colonial America - their equivalent of 1960s hippies dominated higher education)

Propaganda thru mass media has been a thing since the printing press.

So while you can argue propaganda is a contributor, I consider this a secondary factor at best and likely tertiary in importance.

For example, they have no such "wokeness" or "woke movement" in China yet their population suffers from many of the same afflictions we Americans deal with.

------------------------

You know what came about around the same time the 1980s kids and beyond were born?

Tens of thousands of CHEMICALS that are magically FDA / EPA approved or rubber stamped every year (they are in the high 100,000s or 1,000,000+ in quantity by now)

The vast majority are not "properly tested." To properly vet these chimaeras would require YEARS of experiments and observational studies, and no corporation is going to do that.

They are not going to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per major trial to "vet themselves" 

Many side effects do not show up until YEARS after they reach a critical level in the human body, and even then you have to do regression analysis to weed out the false catalysts / reasons.

You can bet your ENTIRE retirement money + future SS payments that "mental problems" have "physiological roots."

They are not diseases of the mind but more likely diseases of the body.

________

These chemicals are dispersed throughout our water, air, and soil, and make their way into human bodies slowly but surely, over decades.

And while I do not have PROOF, I strongly suspect THIS is the #1 factor for what social conservatives consider errant behavior.

-------------------

"But...but...it's a free market! There are too many reGOOLAYSHUNZ!!"

~ RETARD WHO WOULD SACRIFICE SOCIETY'S LONG TERM WELL BEING AND FABRIC FOR GEE DEE PEE GROWTH

The sacrifice is not for gdp growth. That's just the argument.

The sacrifice is on the altar of their tautology, which rules them as a god. 
 

Fuelman » 23 Jan 2025, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 1:18 pm

Indica, Sativa or Hybrid?

CNN, NBC, CBS, FOX, MSNBC...et al

Read up
 

*GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jan 2025, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 11:05 am

Yep.
In spite of all the chemicals, pollutants, toxic exposures, self destructive lifestyle choices ....most of us are out living our recent ancestors thanks to one medical intervention or another.
It's not that unusual to see Olden Folk at the gym nowadays.

Actually, a lot of that is likely to do with OSHA, and with Ralph Nader. 

The two things that were killing people back in the day were their jobs and their cars. OSHA handled the jobs, and Nader handled the cars. 

When you look at average life spans, you are going one level deep. There's nothing granular about the claim, "The average life span has gone up ten years. People are living longer." When you start looking a little deeper, and you control for car wrecks and industrial accidents, you'll find that things are not quite so improved. As to old folks making it to the gym these days, that MIGHT have something to do with there being gyms these days. It might also have to do with there being more leisure these days, such that people actually NEED gyms to stay active. The oldsters in todays gyms were raised by parents who joined bowling leagues or softball leagues or went sport fishing all the time or spent their leisure time water skiing and camping and such. 
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Jan 2025, 11:24 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 11:24 pm

Actually, a lot of that is likely to do with OSHA, and with Ralph Nader. 

The two things that were killing people back in the day were their jobs and their cars. OSHA handled the jobs, and Nader handled the cars. 

When you look at average life spans, you are going one level deep. There's nothing granular about the claim, "The average life span has gone up ten years. People are living longer." When you start looking a little deeper, and you control for car wrecks and industrial accidents, you'll find that things are not quite so improved. As to old folks making it to the gym these days, that MIGHT have something to do with there being gyms these days. It might also have to do with there being more leisure these days, such that people actually NEED gyms to stay active. The oldsters in todays gyms were raised by parents who joined bowling leagues or softball leagues or went sport fishing all the time or spent their leisure time water skiing and camping and such=15px

Here's a quick read about what Ralph Nader was up against as a Safety Crusader......https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/ ... 972-240609
I just asked [[[GOOGLE]]] this question..."Was Ralph Nader a credentialed automotive engineer or was he just simply an opportunistic Jew Lawyer...?"   
[I think he did force Detroit to focus more on driver safety,,,[but in a typically predatory Jew Lawyer kind of way]     
Also....
There must be 1/2 the amount of cigarette smokers nowadays too...?
The word has been out about saturated [hydrogenated] fats for 30 years
Improvements with catheter lab procedures and  with routine cancer testing and  treatment protocols have helped greatly.
Free access.to  advice on the internet..like "how to do  CPR right **** now...~~~  "  .

 
 

Sumela » 23 Jan 2025, 11:03 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 11:03 pm

CNN, NBC, CBS, FOX, MSNBC...et al

Read up
 

Watch evolving, not listen to reports by people ignoring how their own body evolved since a fertilzied cell each heartbeat added.

*GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Jan 2025, 1:39 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2025, 1:39 am

Here's a quick read about what Ralph Nader was up against as a Safety Crusader......https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/ ... 972-240609
I just asked [[[GOOGLE]]] this question..."Was Ralph Nader a credentialed automotive engineer or was he just simply an opportunistic Jew Lawyer...?"   
[I think he did force Detroit to focus more on driver safety,,,[but in a typically predatory Jew Lawyer kind of way]     
Also....
There must be 1/2 the amount of cigarette smokers nowadays too...?
The word has been out about saturated [hydrogenated] fats for 30 years
Improvements with catheter lab procedures and  with routine cancer testing and  treatment protocols have helped greatly.
Free access.to  advice on the internet..like "how to do  CPR right **** now...~~~  "  .

Nader was the jew that I loved - until I found out that he was Lebanese - not jewish.

Cannonpointer » 24 Jan 2025, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2025, 9:05 am

Nader was the jew that I loved - until I found out that he was Lebanese - not jewish.

Well I'll be damned...https://www.jns.org/ralph-nader-targets ... -semitism/
He's right on point about this issue too.
 

LowIQTrash » 23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 2:54 am

I had this random thought before going to bed.

You know how social conservatives always lament the lack of masculinity in modern society, the increasing levels of immaturity among younger generations, the lack of responsible adults, etc.?

Well it turns out attributing these changes to the failures of "leftist education" / "leftist" professors is a garbage explanation since educators AS A GROUP have ALWAYS leaned "progressive" or "reformist." (That profession ATTRACTS those personality types)

Universities / centers of learning always favored the rabble rouser (yes, even back in Colonial America - their equivalent of 1960s hippies dominated higher education)

Propaganda thru mass media has been a thing since the printing press.

So while you can argue propaganda is a contributor, I consider this a secondary factor at best and likely tertiary in importance.

For example, they have no such "wokeness" or "woke movement" in China yet their population suffers from many of the same afflictions we Americans deal with.

------------------------

You know what came about around the same time the 1980s kids and beyond were born?

Tens of thousands of CHEMICALS that are magically FDA / EPA approved or rubber stamped every year (they are in the high 100,000s or 1,000,000+ in quantity by now)

The vast majority are not "properly tested." To properly vet these chimaeras would require YEARS of experiments and observational studies, and no corporation is going to do that.

They are not going to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per major trial to "vet themselves" 

Many side effects do not show up until YEARS after they reach a critical level in the human body, and even then you have to do regression analysis to weed out the false catalysts / reasons.

You can bet your ENTIRE retirement money + future SS payments that "mental problems" have "physiological roots."

They are not diseases of the mind but more likely diseases of the body.

________

These chemicals are dispersed throughout our water, air, and soil, and make their way into human bodies slowly but surely, over decades.

And while I do not have PROOF, I strongly suspect THIS is the #1 factor for what social conservatives consider errant behavior.

-------------------

"But...but...it's a free market! There are too many reGOOLAYSHUNZ!!"

~ RETARD WHO WOULD SACRIFICE SOCIETY'S LONG TERM WELL BEING AND FABRIC FOR GEE DEE PEE GROWTH

 
 

Since the written word on scrolls before English was an alphabet language.

Sumela » 23 Jan 2025, 11:03 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 11:03 pm

CNN, NBC, CBS, FOX, MSNBC...et al

Read up

Pretty sure they have all moved onto the stronger drugs!
 

Vegas » 23 Jan 2025, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 10:58 am

Since 1970 or mid 70s up to today, researchers found that our sperm count has decreased by 50%. There has to be a strong correlation to that and the chemicals.

Nope, that's about when I got the vasectomy.   

Blackvegetable » 23 Jan 2025, 7:45 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 7:45 am

https://youtu.be/_2sz_YwwwQ4?si=tr_-Tum6PY5p1oBL

Life isn't defined by time, it is lived by the ancestors occupying space now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILZndyh ... rt_radio=1