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murdock » 30 Jan 2025, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2025, 7:38 pm

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ok, it's an alleged plan and it's a bit suspicious that it's leaked by Ukraine, how would they know, but we will see what happens..

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Ukrainian Media Outlet Leaks Alleged Trump Plan To End The War

The Ukrainian news outlet Strana has published leaked details of President Trump’s alleged plan to end the war in Ukraine in 100 days.

According to Newsweek, which said it couldn’t verify if the details were accurate, the plan starts with holding a phone call between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in late January or early February, followed by meetings with both Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in February or March.

The leaked plan calls for a ceasefire to be declared by Easter, which falls on April 20. The truce would involve Ukraine withdrawing troops from Russia’s Kursk Oblast.

Once the ceasefire comes into effect, a peace conference will begin hammering out the details of a lasting agreement. The plan calls for a deal to be reached by May 9.

Once the details of the agreement are released, Ukraine will be instructed to end martial law and mobilization. That would mean Zelensky could lose power since his presidential term expired in May 2024, and he used martial law as the justification for not holding new elections. The plan would require allowing parties who oppose continuing the war with Russia to run for office.

Some of the proposed ideas under the plan for a Russia-Ukraine peace deal include barring Ukraine from joining NATO, an agreement for Ukraine to join the EU by 2030, and the EU facilitating Ukraine’s construction. Ukraine would also be able to keep its military and continue receiving military aid from the US, which could be a non-starter for Moscow.

The proposal would also require Ukraine to cede the territory Russia has captured. Ukraine would have to “refuse military and diplomatic attempts to return the occupied territories” and “officially recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over them.”
 

Sumela » 30 Jan 2025, 8:47 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jan 2025, 8:47 pm

AND...as Kaja Kallas admitted last week...""the goal is to split Russia into smaller pieces"".

Their demonic lust for Russian resources will only end when the EU is burning.

 

What was USSR?
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). No matter how labels change people are governed the same way daily regardless which generation gap alive, now since eolving in space at their individual conception.

Your vobabulary doesn't align with spontaneously living simultaneously alive since birth.

You have the common missing link of what you been since conceived celebrating your character development socially here after birth so far.

31stArrival » 29 Jan 2025, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jan 2025, 2:40 pm

What does eventually mean?

any other time forward than the moment here. Life only evolves the whole species nummerically alive now by specificity to ancestral lineage and generation gap ancestors occupying space achieved after birth.

Eventually there is no entropy left to reverse.  Everybody goes gray.  Haven't you seen ET?

Jantje_Smit » 31 Jan 2025, 5:33 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 5:33 am

ok, it's an alleged plan and it's a bit suspicious that it's leaked by Ukraine, how would they know, but we will see what happens..

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Ukrainian Media Outlet Leaks Alleged Trump Plan To End The War

The Ukrainian news outlet Strana has published leaked details of President Trump’s alleged plan to end the war in Ukraine in 100 days.

According to Newsweek, which said it couldn’t verify if the details were accurate, the plan starts with holding a phone call between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in late January or early February, followed by meetings with both Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in February or March.

The leaked plan calls for a ceasefire to be declared by Easter, which falls on April 20. The truce would involve Ukraine withdrawing troops from Russia’s Kursk Oblast.

Once the ceasefire comes into effect, a peace conference will begin hammering out the details of a lasting agreement. The plan calls for a deal to be reached by May 9.

Once the details of the agreement are released, Ukraine will be instructed to end martial law and mobilization. That would mean Zelensky could lose power since his presidential term expired in May 2024, and he used martial law as the justification for not holding new elections. The plan would require allowing parties who oppose continuing the war with Russia to run for office.

Some of the proposed ideas under the plan for a Russia-Ukraine peace deal include barring Ukraine from joining NATO, an agreement for Ukraine to join the EU by 2030, and the EU facilitating Ukraine’s construction. Ukraine would also be able to keep its military and continue receiving military aid from the US, which could be a non-starter for Moscow.

The proposal would also require Ukraine to cede the territory Russia has captured. Ukraine would have to “refuse military and diplomatic attempts to return the occupied territories” and “officially recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over them.”

Just in time for Xi to jump on Taiwan like an AI Sex Doll.

Thanks for sharing. I say we take Crimea back.  Gorbachev gave them sovereignty.  Ukraine agreed to give back the nukes if we took care of them.

It's all about the bread basket and the port.  The region feeds billions daily on export.  Food is power.  Duhh, literally.
 
 

Johnny You » 31 Jan 2025, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 5:38 pm

Eventually there is no entropy left to reverse.  Everybody goes gray.  Haven't you seen ET?

Do you understand the difference between mechanical and evolving? Ingenuity of lifetimes to manage things to work as planned outcomes to work and the workings of evolving in plain sight as naturally timed apart ancestrally here now?

Ancestral incoming replacements vs outcomes of those displaced each rotation alive now here.

You use language to sustain reasonable doubt every generation living forward daily. It is cusomizing outcomes to match speculation the past isn't self evident current events forward each rotation relaitive time divides the two sides of day and night separated by leading edge of the planet revolving around the star working the polarities of midday and midnight between dawn an dusk.

The 4 corners of 8 hemispheres daily within the sphere rotating on an axis, orbited by a moon, revolving around a star as one solar system in this galaxy of all the galaxies universally visible at night looking outside the solar system as daytime is looking into self contained solar system unique from everything else around this solar system existing in series parallel space and time is the event horizons of every cycle present from atoms becoming 4 stages of molecular forms shaped in charcteristics of gaseous, liquid, mineral parts of the 4th dimension of objects creating distance apart spontaneously present simultaneously here became everything that is here so far. Quantum mechanical outcomes of time spaced apart specifically here gravity of the situation every reproduction faces daily, now.

Along with spinning, orbiting, revolving started with expansion and contraction reaction to magnetic push and pull of magetic combinations of 4 dimensional objects combined as galaxies, solar systems, planetary positions speicific food chains are unique to each location located here now.

Resistance, inertia, momentum, centrifigual force, current flows of magnetic wave frequencies of perpendicular push and pull expanding detail actions, creating a reaction of electronagnetism 90 degrees apart from contracting results diagonally between 7 bands of light and 6 electrical currents spontaneously different and simutaneously happening balancing what is, is never duplicated twice results at the same time details never same total sum of the universe developed now.

Eternity between eternal separtion of inorganic and ancestral results in specific locations like Earth self evidently here experience daily by every reproduction staying in the reality governed by social consensus alive now.

The kinetic God vs the potential outcomes devil in the details suggesting life isn't exactly being alive now. Event horizons are balance points to what did and does continue to exist currently here evolving as specifically present now.

Actuality vs factuality of humanity throughout history and current events established by vernacular tribalism weaponized by ancestors in each generation gap lived so far. Morality, legality, ethics, economics, social consensus between all 5 ancestral lineages and their 5 generation gaps united in the ideas life exceeds time adapting here so far.

Common cause to common effects humanity cannot sustain a stable social enviroment throughout history so far. Incoming education of hope, faith, charity vs outcomes of orchestrated mayhem, madness, and misery up on anyone defining human rights to stay in intellectual characters saving the New World Order concept vernacular tribalism is greater than the ancestries performing alternate realities daily.

Humanity created an Eternal Hell pretending now isn't eternity. I was born into this mess and my brain got me out of it. Social minds obey artificial intelligence(contextual facts) life exceeds adatping forward per individual beating hearts, now.

Self Evident Time Displaced.

JohnnyYou » 31 Jan 2025, 5:40 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 5:40 pm

Ukraine agreed to give back the nukes if we took care of them.

No. They didn't.

They made no such agreement - not that they KEPT, anyway. The agreement never countenanced Ukraine declaring war on London, or building a bio-weapon to drop on Warsaw, or any number of things that could nullify the agreement.

The ACTUAL agreement included perpetual neutrality - which is BUILT INTO THEIR CONTSTITUTION, and which was a precondition of the involved parties guaranteeing Ukraine's borders. So mentioning that agreement as if it still exists shows the stupid. 

Attempting to join NATO violated both their Constitution and the treaty upon which your badly formed argument is based. They can make no claim on ANYONE under an agreement that no longer exists. Learn to think legally if you are going to comment on legal matters.

And you mentioned grain. Crimea produces no grain. Nor does it ship grain - not now, and not before the war. It is - and was before the war - a major world power's primary deep water, warm water naval base. Odesa was the primary grain shipping port, and will be again when NATO and the EU stop waging this proxy war. There are a few other bases still in Ukrainian hands that were, and will be again, conduits for grain and other exports. Crimea never was. 

If you think the low level thoughts of a political midwit who could not find Ukraine on a map have any bearing on how this is going to go, you're drunk. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 01 Feb 2025, 6:03 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2025, 6:03 pm

No. They didn't.

They made no such agreement - not that they KEPT, anyway. The agreement never countenanced Ukraine declaring war on London, or building a bio-weapon to drop on Warsaw, or any number of things that could nullify the agreement.

The ACTUAL agreement included perpetual neutrality - which is BUILT INTO THEIR CONTSTITUTION, and which was a precondition of the involved parties guaranteeing Ukraine's borders. So mentioning that agreement as if it still exists shows the stupid. 

Attempting to join NATO violated both their Constitution and the treaty upon which your badly formed argument is based. They can make no claim on ANYONE under an agreement that no longer exists. Learn to think legally if you are going to comment on legal matters.

And you mentioned grain. Crimea produces no grain. Nor does it ship grain - not now, and not before the war. It is - and was before the war - a major world power's primary deep water, warm water naval base. Odesa was the primary grain shipping port, and will be again when NATO and the EU stop waging this proxy war. There are a few other bases still in Ukrainian hands that were, and will be again, conduits for grain and other exports. Crimea never was. 

If you think the low level thoughts of a political midwit who could not find Ukraine on a map have any bearing on how this is going to go, you're drunk.

I did not know that farmers were  not still farming and ships were still exporting in Crimea.

Honestly, I don't know if Tik Tok is banned or not and I really could give a flying turd either way.

If you want to engage in fellatio with Putin in front of everbody go right ahead.  You own the place.  You can go K$sh Crazy Investigate on me anytime.
 

JohnnyYou » 01 Feb 2025, 8:30 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2025, 8:30 pm

I did not know that farmers were  not still farming and ships were still exporting in Crimea.

Honestly, I don't know if Tik Tok is banned or not and I really could give a flying turd either way.

If you want to engage in fellatio with Putin in front of everbody go right ahead.  You own the place.  You can go K$sh Crazy Investigate on me anytime.

It has nothing to do with farmers farming, uninformed one. 

Ukraine has mined a lot of the sea lanes. Russia is quarantining Ukrainian vessels. Insurers are refusing to insure ships, regardless of where they are flagged, and ships are refusing to brave a war zone uninsured. 

Wars tend to interrupt commerce - you can google it. 

Cannonpointer » 27 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

27 minutes ago

It has nothing to do with farmers farming, uninformed one. 

Ukraine has mined a lot of the sea lanes. Russia is quarantining Ukrainian vessels. Insurers are refusing to insure ships, regardless of where they are flagged, and ships are refusing to brave a war zone uninsured. 

Wars tend to interrupt commerce - you can google it.

And Oppenheimer has stockpiled Armageddon.

Did Old Mack go No Ghost?

Cannonpointer » 01 Feb 2025, 9:06 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2025, 9:06 pm

It has nothing to do with farmers farming, uninformed one. 

Ukraine has mined a lot of the sea lanes. Russia is quarantining Ukrainian vessels. Insurers are refusing to insure ships, regardless of where they are flagged, and ships are refusing to brave a war zone uninsured. 

Wars tend to interrupt commerce - you can google it. 

People have to learn the futility of chasing tomorrows that fade contextually away noon to midnight each rotation forward now. Stop blaming the west for the east pretending to be the dawn of a new day when a factual day only happens by syllables in charge of tomorrow when international dateline(0/360 Longitude) reaches mid night north pole to south pole regardless temperate zones between equator and each axis of rotation creating climate change never same twice as is each genetic outcome incoming as a great great grandchild generation gap.