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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:50 am

Not so sure about that last part.

There are people who don't need one. Most Amish and Mennonites do not have them, for example. 

Pretty sure they don't have smart phones, either.

Even 3 year old babies are required to get SSNs last time I checked....?

Blackvegetable » Yesterday, 1:09 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 1:09 am

What if people just stopped making groundless assertions about voter fraud?

These people would beg to differ...


 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:09 am

Renters vote.

Under legal names and legal addresses...

*GHETTO BLASTER » Yesterday, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:06 am

A very rare occurrence...especially when the voter's SSN is part of the security test.
If there was a rash epidemic of identity theft nobody would do any on line banking or trading. 
 
 

If it goes unreported does it ever continue to happen daily? Look at all those commercials for insuring deeds of home ownership. Lifelock? all these services charge a fee. they eventually hire those caught doing it to show theya re doing everything possible to prevent it again and it keeps happening 7 days a week 52 times a year evolving only happens this rotation never same total sum of all previous ones so far.

*GHETTOBLASTER » Yesterday, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:07 am

Even 3 year old babies are required to get SSNs last time I checked....?

They like to hand them out when the kid is born, but the parents have to consent to that. There are people who, when they reach the age of majority and are their own legal person, repudiate their SS number. They cannot work for corporations - they have to make their own way. But such people exist. 

If you would care to do a quick google search, you will find I am correct about the Amish and the Mennonites.

There are also people who believe in not entangling/incorporating with the federal government for the purpose of life by getting a SS number. They protect their children from being entered into a what they view as a contract with the feds. Some consider the SS number the mark of the beast, or a precursor thereto. 

 

ROG62 » Yesterday, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:13 am

Under legal names and legal addresses...

When people rent rooms, their addresses will not be shown in the property tax office.

Millions of Americans rent rooms. There is a room renter in my house, right now. I had a girl in one of my bedrooms in Vegas for three years. My niece rented a room from me there, as well. My mom lived with me - her name was not in the tax records. Just mine. 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:15 am

They like to hand them out when the kid is born, but the parents have to consent to that. There are people who, when they reach the age of majority and are their own legal person, repudiate their SS number. They cannot work for corporations - they have to make their own way. But such people exist. 

If you would care to do a quick google search, you will find I am correct about the Amish and the Mennonites.

There are also people who believe in not entangling/incorporating with the federal government for the purpose of life by getting a SS number. They protect their children from being entered into a what they view as a contract with the feds. Some consider the SS number the mark of the beast, or a precursor thereto.

The Amish have license plates for their buggies so their identities are in that "electronic data base" with their own unique serial number.
I don't see why the can't be expected to register themselves into a voting data base with  unique passwords and registration number..
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:50 am

Not so sure about that last part.

There are people who don't need one. Most Amish and Mennonites do not have them, for example. 

Pretty sure they don't have smart phones, either.

  Actually is a lot more complicated than that. MANY Amish and Mennonites do have SS numbers.

Do the Amish Have Social Security Numbers? – Amish Rules

Do the Amish Have Social Security Numbers? 

While the Amish are governed by the law, they don’t want to have social security numbers. However, they do get one when they join the church as an adult.Because the Amish come from the Anabaptist tradition, they believe that you should be baptized as an adult when you’re fully able to consent. Once they receive their social security number they can then file for an exemption. 

So in effect, they ARE "tracked" through the SS Administration as "exempt" if they file for one, or "has a SS number" if they don't.

Either way, the SS Administration knows who they are.
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:09 am

Renters vote.

Unfortunately.  
 

*Beekeeper » Yesterday, 6:53 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 6:53 am

There is still no way to trace a burner phone's owner and no way to determine if a number is a burner phone with the technology we have today. And there isn't likely any change to happen in the near future since it takes a lot more than we have now to "assign" some different set of numbers to burner phones to identify them as such. Sorry. 

This is a HORRIBLE idea and one ripe for fraud and abuse. What's to prevent a bunch of foreign adversaries from getting phones by the millions and having valid addresses, etc and voting in our elections?? NO ONE thought about that one. And trust me, it WOULD be happening if this was implemented.

IN PERSON, WITH VALID PHOTO ID AND ONLY THOSE WHO CAN PRODUCE IT that are on the voter rolls get to vote. PERIOD!!

I tried finding more info on it, but it isn't available yet..I did find this in the comments...

https://eiprotocol.org/eip/nutshell/
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:18 am

When people rent rooms, their addresses will not be shown in the property tax office.

Millions of Americans rent rooms. There is a room renter in my house, right now. I had a girl in one of my bedrooms in Vegas for three years. My niece rented a room from me there, as well. My mom lived with me - her name was not in the tax records. Just mine.

correct, but in order to vote, they have to give a legitimate address that matches the tax records...which are verified as a residence, not an empty lot, Walmart or post office...which NGO's use because there's never been a way to verify these addresses in real time...they've documented hundreds of thousands of bogus ballots this way...WI was one state where they were able to identify 31,000 ballots last election, having them discarded giving Trump the state...

this is another interesting approach that beekeeper was getting at...

https://eiprotocol.org/eip/nutshell/
 
 

ROG62 » Yesterday, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:38 am

I tried finding more info on it, but it isn't available yet..I did find this in the comments...

https://eiprotocol.org/eip/nutshell/

That does NOTHING to prevent illegal ballots from being tossed into the hopper at counting time. So what if YOU can trace YOUR BALLOT, what about the 10,000 fraudulent ones that no one can trace because you have no "special number"  to allow you to look it up??

Bottom line is, those that want to cheat to steal an election WILL find a way to do it no matter the measures taken to prevent it. Democrats prove that every **** election. They weren't ready for the onslaught of legal eagles and poll watchers that kept their antics to a bare minimum in this one and had NO preparation to combat it so they could stuff the ballot boxes. They didn't think Republicans would be THAT prepared.

Still, the BEST way is in person, WITH PHOTO ID, and your name on the voter rolls. PERIOD!! Florida does this and has had near ZERO issue with fraudulent voting. Yeah, they get some in the mail-in ballots, but good Elections office people are catching those pretty damn good.
 

*GHETTOBLASTER » Yesterday, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:24 am

The Amish have license plates for their buggies so their identities are in that "electronic data base" with their own unique serial number.
I don't see why the can't be expected to register themselves into a voting data base with  unique passwords and registration number..

I wouldn't imagine that should be a problem for them. I was just pointing out that they don't do social security.
 

Laws, laws, laws....Cons care so much....

Until it comes to foreign policy and regime change crimes.

*GHETTOBLASTER » Yesterday, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:24 am

The Amish have license plates for their buggies
 

  Nope.
Not here they don't.
Also they don't charge sales tax for their goods.
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Squatchman » Yesterday, 11:11 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 11:11 pm

  Nope.
Not here they don't.
Also they don't charge sales tax for their goods.
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 Do the Amish Have Social Security Numbers?

While the Amish are governed by the law, they don’t want to have social security numbers.
However, they do get one when they join the church as an adult.
Because the Amish come from the Anabaptist tradition, they believe that you should be baptized as an adult when you’re fully able to consent.
Once they receive their social security number they can then file for an exemption. 

https://amishrules.com/do-the-amish-hav ... y-numbers/
 

ROG62 » Yesterday, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:12 am

These people would beg to differ...


 

Beg to differ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Being a unique position in ancestry as a singularity of a one time event evolving fertilized cell to decomposed corpse, I am eternally different from anyone and anything ever ever existed in this universe in my ancestral lineage along with every other species in the food chain.

My brain navigates with the serenity of what I am able to do and what never happens when being alive today. This is how I can debunk any social consensus demanding everyone believe now isn't eternity by geometrical results following thermodynamic principles.

ROG62 » 04 Feb 2025, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Feb 2025, 3:42 pm

 
 
 

I worked 32 years for a utility suppying instant communication around the globe and let me explain wireless communicaitons takes the same principles for redistribution of data as does print medium, copper wire, cable, radio, tv, satellite, fiber optics into a network/cloud with filtering points everywhere between local link up to total numbers linked up to one technology.

Same principles work for genetic outcomes alive now.