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**** The Man. 

Never give an extra ounce of effort for your work. Whatever you agreed to in the job description is exactly what you should do. Not one thing more. No less either, since you made an agreement to do it, but only the bare minimum to keep your word.  Give the extra mile to people who do not see you as replaceable, such as family and friends. Never to a place of employment. Bare minimum at work, and extra mile with family/friends. 

Start your own business. Yes, it's hard, but so? Work for yourself. If you have to work hard as hell because you can't help it, then work your *** off to make yourself a lot of money, not somebody else who finds you replaceable. 

 

You either have a good work ethic or you don't. **** employees never succeed as business owners. They have no drive and don't care about anybody but themselves. As a business owner for a long time, I can say it is harder than working for someone else. You have to care more about your employees and customers more than yourself.

PhiloBeddo » 28 Feb 2025, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:45 am

You either have a good work ethic or you don't. **** employees never succeed as business owners. They have no drive and don't care about anybody but themselves. As a business owner for a long time, I can say it is harder than working for someone else. You have to care more about your employees and customers more than yourself.

Untrue. It's about incentive. Sure, there will always be lazy asses. However, there are a lot of **** employees who are deliberately lazy because they see no incentive in making The Man happy. It's pointless. Why in the hell should an ambitious person be an ambitious employee to make someone else a **** load of money? 

Disagree 100% It does not matter what the job is. You either have pride in your work or you don't. If you don't like the job or who you are working for, Quit. Doing a **** job is a reflection on your character.

Vegas » 28 Feb 2025, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:13 am

**** The Man. 

Never give an extra ounce of effort for your work. Whatever you agreed to in the job description is exactly what you should do. Not one thing more. No less either, since you made an agreement to do it, but only the bare minimum to keep your word.  Give the extra mile to people who do not see you as replaceable, such as family and friends. Never to a place of employment. Bare minimum at work, and extra mile with family/friends. 

Start your own business. Yes, it's hard, but so? Work for yourself. If you have to work hard as hell because you can't help it, then work your *** off to make yourself a lot of money, not somebody else who finds you replaceable.

I would rather "**** The Woman"....just a personal preference of mine  

nefarious101 » 28 Feb 2025, 10:59 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:59 am

I would rather "**** The Woman"....just a personal preference of mine

If they are hot, then of course. 

Vegas » 28 Feb 2025, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 11:00 am

If they are hot, then of course.

hot?...as in she has all the right moves?

PhiloBeddo » 28 Feb 2025, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:56 am

Disagree 100% It does not matter what the job is. You either have pride in your work or you don't. If you don't like the job or who you are working for, Quit. Doing a **** job is a reflection on your character.

Why would anyone have pride making a **** of money for somebody else? 

Vegas » 28 Feb 2025, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 12:47 pm

Why would anyone have pride making a **** of money for somebody else?

You couldn't work for an employer small enough to personally know his employees....stick to the anonymity of a large work force, preferably union so you can disappear from ethical productivity.

PhiloBeddo » 28 Feb 2025, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:45 am

You either have a good work ethic or you don't. **** employees never succeed as business owners. They have no drive and don't care about anybody but themselves. As a business owner for a long time, I can say it is harder than working for someone else. You have to care more about your employees and customers more than yourself.

Agreed!
And in over 50 years as a business owner, I can attest to the fact that those who DO exert more than the minimum effort at their job are always the first to get promoted and earn higher pay and benefits.  I ALWAYS promoted from within, regardless of which employees may have had longer tenure.  Many workers ARE content to do the minimum work they were hired to do, and that was fine with me but others who cared far more about the success of the business were promoted. And that's the primary reason I would never let a union get a foothold in any of my businesses. 

Unions create the antithesis of a good work ethic.
 

Go Forth, Drill Baby Drill and create taxpayers.. We need 4 Billion more on this spaceship in twenty years.

Elon's gonna pay to Make Gaza Great Again.

If we Buy a Tesla he will give 47 the Keys to the Kingdom and Trumpocalypse will be out of America's hair.

Does Elon shower?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5BL4RNFr58
 
God Help You Kids...

Vegas » 28 Feb 2025, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:13 am

**** The Man. 

Never give an extra ounce of effort for your work. Whatever you agreed to in the job description is exactly what you should do. Not one thing more. No less either, since you made an agreement to do it, but only the bare minimum to keep your word.  Give the extra mile to people who do not see you as replaceable, such as family and friends. Never to a place of employment. Bare minimum at work, and extra mile with family/friends. 

Start your own business. Yes, it's hard, but so? Work for yourself. If you have to work hard as hell because you can't help it, then work your *** off to make yourself a lot of money, not somebody else who finds you replaceable. 

 

Doesn't correct the corruption you followed since birth.

never met an oligawky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBhR99pdHps

Lick the Public Restroom Floor 3 times a Day per Doctor Wormbrain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Rl8TpGIP4

Vegas » 28 Feb 2025, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:13 am

**** The Man. 

Never give an extra ounce of effort for your work. Whatever you agreed to in the job description is exactly what you should do. Not one thing more. No less either, since you made an agreement to do it, but only the bare minimum to keep your word.  Give the extra mile to people who do not see you as replaceable, such as family and friends. Never to a place of employment. Bare minimum at work, and extra mile with family/friends. 

Start your own business. Yes, it's hard, but so? Work for yourself. If you have to work hard as hell because you can't help it, then work your *** off to make yourself a lot of money, not somebody else who finds you replaceable.

Damn, you should have turned this into a poll. I wonder how many forum members would have reached their current success by following your advice. My guess is not many if any. Times have changed, maybe it works today.

That Union pay scale said it takes 7 years to receive journeyman pay, I did it in 2 years and was in management by 5 years. That was my first real long term job. Guess I could have stayed in the fishing industry working in canneries or floating processors on the Bearing Sea.

So did anyone here succeed with an attitude like Vegas?
 

Vegas » 28 Feb 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:49 am

Untrue. It's about incentive. Sure, there will always be lazy asses. However, there are a lot of **** employees who are deliberately lazy because they see no incentive in making The Man happy. It's pointless. Why in the hell should an ambitious person be an ambitious employee to make someone else a **** load of money?

Pride is why. Protestant work ethic. Blue collar mores. It's in the upbringing. 

I've had jobs where I got **** on and mistreated, and I still gave 100% until the day I fired them. I ride for the brand, and I'm a top hand. That is how I was raised, and I am helpless to be less than my best at work, even when I WANT to **** the man. I have put in overtime when I was exhausted, for supervisors I despised. Because the team needed me - and I didn't like the team, either. 

I'm not confuting your advice. I gave ya greenies. But I could never take your advice. It's a violation of the prime directive. No matter WHAT, those mother **** will never turn ME into a slacker. I'm a star. I'm a top hand. I'm a producer. They're gonna miss me, the stupid ****. And they're gonna respect me - even if they come to that respect too late to salvage the relationship. 

When I leave a company, there should be an exit interview at which HR makes a pitch to keep me. And those responsible for getting the work completed should have a crisis on their hands, because when I leave a team, there's a big **** hole. 
 

PhiloBeddo » 28 Feb 2025, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 10:56 am

Disagree 100% It does not matter what the job is. You either have pride in your work or you don't. If you don't like the job or who you are working for, Quit. Doing a **** job is a reflection on your character.

I don't disagree.

I'm not gonna **** on his advice - I get where it's coming from. But slacking becomes a habit and habits define us. Slacking will injure your pride, injure your sense of self, constitute you in the world as a slacker. 

Being a slacker is not a button you can push, and then suddenly become a star when you decide. If you slack for 15 bucks an hour you will slack for 40 - because slackers slack and steppers step. 

I'm not a stepper for my boss. I'm a stepper for ME - the most important and admirable person in my life. I don't care WHO ya are, if you're a slacker, you gotta hang your head in the presence of steppers. That's why in the work place, slackers will always, always, always band together to **** over steppers. Smart bosses protect their steppers and weak bosses don't - it's a toss up. But whichever way it goes, a stepper will give 100% until the last buzzer on the last day, and he will leave with his head held high. 

I've wished more than one boss well in their future endeavors, AFTER working out a proper notice.
 

Fuelman » 01 Mar 2025, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 9:17 am

Damn, you should have turned this into a poll. I wonder how many forum members would have reached their current success by following your advice. My guess is not many if any. Times have changed, maybe it works today.

That Union pay scale said it takes 7 years to receive journeyman pay, I did it in 2 years and was in management by 5 years. That was my first real long term job. Guess I could have stayed in the fishing industry working in canneries or floating processors on the Bearing Sea.

So did anyone here succeed with an attitude like Vegas?

There have been times I have WISHED I could have that attitude. But my pride won't let me.

If I have a suckass boss, and I let him turn me into a suckass employee, he wins. **** that.
 

JohnnyYou » 28 Feb 2025, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 6:31 pm

never met an oligawky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBhR99pdHps

You are looking to John Bolton - AKA Yosemite Sam - for clarity of thought. You are watching pure propaganda. 

You ought to drill down on a central question: whether idiocy is inescapable.

If you feel it is, then just relax, and continue on your current trajectory. 

Cannonpointer » 01 Mar 2025, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:06 am

You are looking to John Bolton - AKA Yosemite Sam - for clarity of thought. You are watching pure propaganda. 

You ought to drill down on a central question: whether idiocy is inescapable.

If you feel it is, then just relax, and continue on your current trajectory.

If anyone wants to take out idiots in America, they don't  need  to be marksman.  We are surrounded by them and can shoot in any direction.

Phooking Country is duel to the death waiting in a line to kill each other.  How we got to this level of divisive dysfunctionality is mind boggling.   Just  another Symptom of the Modernpocalypse.

I was enthusiastic there would be 4 billion more souls with cellphones who will need refrigeration every day in 20 years at work. My Boss did not share the enthusiasm and wisely indicated he doesn't think that path will come to fruition. Tesla saw unimaginable horrors in the future. We live every day in Oppenheimer's nightmare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1zrEGsj234